Parry
| Type: | Defense |
| Realm: | All |
| Classes: | Armsman, Blademaster, Champion, Friar, Hero, Mercenary, Paladin, Reaver, Savage, Skald, Thane, Valewalker, Valkyrie, Warden, Warrior |
| Description: | |
Parry is the only pure defensive skill which can be trained. | |
Anonymous
For those that can train in Shield would it be better to train in shield instead or parry. Shield will also increase your chances to block an attack and give you some styles as well. The only downside I can see to shield is that is uses up endurance that might be better used for a weapon attack. What do you think?
Anonymous
my shield does more dmg than my sword, but its so slow, i cant imagine the hell of being a polearmsman
Anonymous
It might partly depend on what styles you want to use....
[midgard styles below]:
2 hammer styles are based on parry by you
1 is based on a block by *anyone*
2 axe styles chain from a parry by you
1 is based on a block by *anyone*
1 sword style gains from a shield block by you?
(can't be bothered to do left axe/spear etc.)
So it might depend on where you intend to get your weapon skill up to?
I've seen good arguments for:
**1-handed weapon:
shield + parry ('best' chance of avoiding melee hit per skill point invested? [2 skills to 15 is cheaper than 1 skill to 30!])
shield only (more styles, better chance of blocking arrows/bolts?)
**2-handed weapon:
parry only (more damage?, less defence)
parry + shield (below avg. defence, switch to shield for charging pesky bolts/arrows)
[midgard styles below]:
2 hammer styles are based on parry by you
1 is based on a block by *anyone*
2 axe styles chain from a parry by you
1 is based on a block by *anyone*
1 sword style gains from a shield block by you?
(can't be bothered to do left axe/spear etc.)
So it might depend on where you intend to get your weapon skill up to?
I've seen good arguments for:
**1-handed weapon:
shield + parry ('best' chance of avoiding melee hit per skill point invested? [2 skills to 15 is cheaper than 1 skill to 30!])
shield only (more styles, better chance of blocking arrows/bolts?)
**2-handed weapon:
parry only (more damage?, less defence)
parry + shield (below avg. defence, switch to shield for charging pesky bolts/arrows)
Anonymous
Parry works with ALL weapon types. Blunts, blades, two handed. They all parry.
17 posts
Can you parry with a blunt weapon? We have a lvl 14 Warden who was not aware that she gets this skill and worked up blunt instead of bladed, should she now work up bladed instead?
Tevesa
Tevesa
Anonymous
About animation for parryin, think there is if you are using 2handers.
Harley
Harley
Anonymous
My warden uses blunts and parrys just fine. Don't waste your points on blades.
Anonymous
My warden uses blunt weapons and parry's just fine. It's just a form of block and no special animation goes with it. You do hear a "TINK" of metal striking metal. Don't waste points on blade if you are using blunt.
Anonymous
Yes, all weapon types can parry.
8 posts
I wouldn't work up bladed yet. I believe that parry works across all weapon types for the classes that can use it.
Don't waste any points in bladed until you are sure, and you might want to save some points you might be considering putting into blunt until you are sure.
Basically it comes down to picking one melee weapon type and sticking with it. No class gets enough points to really be able to put some in a secondary weapon class outside of a ranged attack maybe. As a Warden you will want to pick one weapon and stick with it while working up your other skills for healing and/or buffing.
Don't waste any points in bladed until you are sure, and you might want to save some points you might be considering putting into blunt until you are sure.
Basically it comes down to picking one melee weapon type and sticking with it. No class gets enough points to really be able to put some in a secondary weapon class outside of a ranged attack maybe. As a Warden you will want to pick one weapon and stick with it while working up your other skills for healing and/or buffing.
8 posts
Dont waste points in parry if you are a BM.
Base parry gives you 5% chance of parrying. I made a BM and brought parry up to 8. Which, due to the .5 gain per point, gave me a 9% chance of parry. That is nearly useless.
Also, for the short-sighted. Parry will not help you in 50% of your RvR encounters (casters). You are wasting points that at higher levels will be better sued on offensive skills. As a Blademaster you will not be the main tank very often, so don't worry about parry unless you plan on soloing most of your life.
Put points into your weapon skill and Dual Wield as those will rarely be useless in RvR or PvE (I say rarely as I am not sure about the possibility of invuln shields at this point, but even if they are used they likely will be limited time period no attack shields, so parry becomes useless in that situation again).
Base parry gives you 5% chance of parrying. I made a BM and brought parry up to 8. Which, due to the .5 gain per point, gave me a 9% chance of parry. That is nearly useless.
Also, for the short-sighted. Parry will not help you in 50% of your RvR encounters (casters). You are wasting points that at higher levels will be better sued on offensive skills. As a Blademaster you will not be the main tank very often, so don't worry about parry unless you plan on soloing most of your life.
Put points into your weapon skill and Dual Wield as those will rarely be useless in RvR or PvE (I say rarely as I am not sure about the possibility of invuln shields at this point, but even if they are used they likely will be limited time period no attack shields, so parry becomes useless in that situation again).
Anonymous
Turftoe sounds kinda unexperienced, and a little confused...
Parry is an EXCELLENT skill for a Blademaster to put points into... not all of them in, but at least some. The thing is, no, we Blademasters are NOT primary takes like Heroes... but we out-number Heroes almost 2 to 1 on most servers... and we are near the toughest fighters out there, so we WILL be doing some tanking.
And anyways, would NOT taking damage be a good thing? Of course... and in terms of RvR, who are the people protecting the casters? The Fighters... so, you take less damage from them, leaving more to take the casters out. Boom, you win.
So, when thinking about allocating points with a Blademaster, DO think of maxing out your weapon, DO think about training Dual Wield, and also, DO think about saving some of those points (not all, at any rate) into an under-rated skill called Parry.
Blademaster Lathniir of Hibernia
Parry is an EXCELLENT skill for a Blademaster to put points into... not all of them in, but at least some. The thing is, no, we Blademasters are NOT primary takes like Heroes... but we out-number Heroes almost 2 to 1 on most servers... and we are near the toughest fighters out there, so we WILL be doing some tanking.
And anyways, would NOT taking damage be a good thing? Of course... and in terms of RvR, who are the people protecting the casters? The Fighters... so, you take less damage from them, leaving more to take the casters out. Boom, you win.
So, when thinking about allocating points with a Blademaster, DO think of maxing out your weapon, DO think about training Dual Wield, and also, DO think about saving some of those points (not all, at any rate) into an under-rated skill called Parry.
Blademaster Lathniir of Hibernia
Anonymous
That's pretty short sighted.
At level 50 when mobs and other realms are hitting you in combat for 500+ damage, you will want that extra percentage. Even if you only train it to 25 (at level 50), that gives you 17.5% parry rate (using the currently believed math). So almost 1/5th of hits are parried.
The other 4/5ths of the hits could be mitigated by evades or armor absorption, giving you just that much more avoided damage... not to mention the great combat styles available that must follow a parry. Who wouldn't want that?
At level 50 when mobs and other realms are hitting you in combat for 500+ damage, you will want that extra percentage. Even if you only train it to 25 (at level 50), that gives you 17.5% parry rate (using the currently believed math). So almost 1/5th of hits are parried.
The other 4/5ths of the hits could be mitigated by evades or armor absorption, giving you just that much more avoided damage... not to mention the great combat styles available that must follow a parry. Who wouldn't want that?
Anonymous
Wardens receive this at 15. As we don't get any Evade, plan on putting a few points into it :)
Anonymous
Midgardian Thanes also get Parry as a trainable skill from level 1. It's been quite handy so far and I intend to keep training it.
Thorkenn
Thane of Bedevere
"Beware Wrath's Hammer for I hold it tightly"
Thorkenn
Thane of Bedevere
"Beware Wrath's Hammer for I hold it tightly"
Anonymous
Well as a merc i have to keep sword maxed and i like to keep duel weild up for the styles and chance to hit w/ 2 weapons more often but as said parry seems to be a useful skill any mercenarys know how i should distribute points to parry duel weild and slashing?
Anonymous
I have read that Wardens gain Parry. Is this true, or another vicious rumor?
Anonymous
Yopu can parry with 2handers as well. Many heros are using the Celtic Spear (2hander) and Parry combo.
Anonymous
This one require a shield to parry, or can you also parry with a 2 handed weapon or a dual weapons?
2 posts
This is one of the best defense tactics I have seen in sometime, please put points into this if you are going to b fighting on the front lines, saves you alot of hitpoints , the mobs miss me quite alot and it looks really cool when you perform this skill. Great for those of us who like to get right into the fight, also with a heater shield, you can block upto 3 different mobs hitting you at once, this allows me to solo 2 to 4 mobs and not take as much hits. Oh and I am a 13 Armsman(Circle of Power)Percival, Albion realm. Have fun.
Anonymous
I am a blademaster and this skill is great for our class. We dont get to wear the heavy duty armors so take advantage of the defences you get. I am currently lvl 12 and have 9 points in this. With it i ethier evade, parry, or the mob just misses me more than they hit...ive seen up to four consectutive parries in one fight. Moster swung at me 13 times...hit me 3 )
Anonymous
I have been puting points into this skill and I have noticed in battle the higher the points, the more often I step out of the way from an attack. I think this is a useful skill.
Anonymous
I am a Frair and I have recieved this skill as well, haven't tried to train in it yet, but I assume I can since I have it. Just thought I would mention it since it isn't mentioned above.
Aige,
Friar of Percival, 10
Aige,
Friar of Percival, 10
Anonymous
The Midgardian Skald can also train in Parry
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