Classes: Armsman, Infiltrator
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question ...
# May 16 2003 at 12:35 PM Rating: Good
I just started as an infiltrator...
First : where do i buy venom to envenom my swords..
Second : Should i go with the sword and shield
double swords or crossbow ??

Third : Where should i distribute my xp points ...
pls help ...
RE: question ...
# Feb 01 2004 at 2:38 AM Rating: Decent
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This might be a silly question, but since I don't have access to a crossbow yet I can't find out.

If a target is far enough away, would it be possible to fire off a crossbow shot and then use stealth before it gets too close? Or, once it targets you, is using stealth out of the question?
RE: question ...
# Apr 10 2004 at 11:58 PM Rating: Default
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Once you're engaged you can't go into stealth mode... and for the other guy... definately go with duel wield not sword and shield... your not a tank so a shield will be worthless... you need to do alot of dmg and duel wielding will do that... also... if your a Sarecen go with thrusting weps if a Brit go with slashing... thrusting relies on dex more and slashing on str. hope this helps a little.
# Mar 26 2003 at 4:21 AM Rating: Default
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cout or infiltrator? By: Anonymous
Posted @ Wed, Mar 13th 11:15 AM 2002 Score: Default[2.00] Awful Default Decent Good Excellent
i have recently started a rogue alt, and was wondering which one would be best.I have a paladin (With absolutly no pulling ability) and want something that can.Should i go with the Infil. and the crossbow or the scout and the longbow?
<------ WTF : / a pala that can't pull hmm ever tryed taunt-pull ( its in the spell drop list)

Ifo Please
# Oct 16 2002 at 3:38 PM Rating: Default
i was wondering, what level does the armsman get to use xbows?
# Aug 22 2002 at 9:43 AM Rating: Default
umm... im new to the game and i was wondering if the xbow was any fun too use or is for experianced players only, should the Xbow affect the way i choose my ************ i wish they had these things on EQ
# Aug 21 2002 at 5:31 PM Rating: Default
But melee just doenst happen your dead before you get there at least a Crossbowman would have some fun :)
Xbow in RvR
# Aug 19 2002 at 7:29 AM Rating: Default
I've a newfound love for my crossbow. It's terrific for the chaos of RvR. As an armsman, casters and such keep their distance from me in the battle fray, the healers/mages always flanking the actual battle, they never see it coming. And, oddly enough, it deals out MORE damage than my slash skill which matches my level.
#Anonymous, Posted: Aug 11 2002 at 6:14 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) i am a great magician. your shirt is red!
Cmon guys
# Jul 26 2002 at 9:24 PM Rating: Default
Ok guys, I'm a 23 hibernian enchanter, and even I know the upsides to a crossbow, I've died to them many a time. I especially liked "--Arturrum Aybarra/Archrogue Aegis, 37 cleric/infil, Lancelot server"'s answer. Yea, PA is much better damage but um....what if the guy you're attacking is running away from you? Are you going to super speed your stealth so that you can outrun him, have enough time to turn around, and PA him? No, you shoot him with your crossbow. Twice in my limited time in the battlegrounds I got hurt by mages that I soon after killed, then died from infils with crossbows.
I am a moron
# May 21 2002 at 10:03 AM Rating: Default
I got 47 in crossbow.
ANd i fire fast.
3 second.
yellow con mob is almost dead when it reach me.
I can solo yellow.
morgan le fay
Scout or infiltrator?
# Mar 13 2002 at 11:15 AM Rating: Default
i have recently started a rogue alt, and was wondering which one would be best.I have a paladin (With absolutly no pulling ability) and want something that can.Should i go with the Infil. and the crossbow or the scout and the longbow?
RE: Scout or infiltrator?
# Apr 03 2002 at 11:20 PM Rating: Default
Does anyone know what the effect is of adding skill points to crossbow? Does it increase accuracy as well as damage? How much damage does it add per skill point? Are there ever any special abilities for crossbow spec points?
RE: Scout or infiltrator?
# Mar 25 2002 at 3:13 AM Rating: Default
if you want to be a puller then be a scout
RE: Scout or infiltrator?
# Mar 29 2002 at 6:24 PM Rating: Default
or better yet be a minstrel. mostly people are too stupid to realize that they are the best pullers.speed up DD DD Stun quickly mez any adds run back
RE: Scout or infiltrator?
# Jun 04 2002 at 10:49 PM Rating: Default
if you use your stun on the first mob, chances are you wont be able to get any mezzes off on the adds. i suppose that might work if you had a pally in the group doing heal chant. The pulse would agro the add onto him, and you could mezz from there, but minstrels really arent the best pullers. Not enough range, unless you mezz pull, which is unreliable at best.

RE: Scout or infiltrator?
# Mar 29 2002 at 6:23 PM Rating: Default
or better yet be a minstrel. mosty people are too stupid to realize that they are the best pullers.speed up DD DD Stun quickly mez any adds run back
#Anonymous, Posted: Mar 13 2002 at 11:12 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post)
Need to know
# Mar 10 2002 at 9:08 AM Rating: Default
What is better at soloing out of the rouges. and is the crossbow good
# Mar 02 2002 at 5:40 PM Rating: Default
Where can I buy a crossbow? In Camelot?
RE: crossbow?
# Mar 26 2002 at 8:23 AM Rating: Default
At the Tower north of the Brifge to West downs is a Crossbow merchant
RE: crossbow?
# Mar 12 2002 at 1:24 AM Rating: Good
I found a crossbow in Ludlow village. A boltseller near the Bowseller in the first house from the left when you come from the south had several on the second side of his tradepannel.
RE: crossbow?
# Mar 04 2002 at 12:40 AM Rating: Decent
You can buy one at arrow merchant across form guild of shadows in camelot
#Anonymous, Posted: Mar 28 2002 at 10:21 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) No you cannot.. I am so tired of seeing all these posts from people who did not even click on the merchants. Nearly every bow merchant holds a crossbow but does not actually sell any. There are no crossbows in Cotswold or Camelot.
RE: crossbow?
# Apr 09 2002 at 4:48 PM Rating: Default
There are Xbows in Camelot. I got mine there.
RE: crossbow?
# Mar 30 2002 at 1:10 PM Rating: Default
YOU are the one who didn't even

scroll down ...after the ammunitions you'll find the camelot you can be sure of that.

(think before speaking next time lol)
RE: crossbow?
# Apr 10 2002 at 12:30 PM Rating: Default
Sasha Fletcher sells crossbows and bolts in Camelot City. She's by the Guild of Shadows.
RE: crossbow?
# Sep 10 2002 at 7:31 AM Rating: Default
Sasha Fletcher sells the bolts.
Floree sells the crossbows.
Both outside the Guild of Shadows (24840,19184)
RE: crossbow?
# Mar 03 2002 at 6:45 PM Rating: Decent
In cotswold i believe there is a merchant
#Anonymous, Posted: Jun 02 2002 at 3:36 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Thamn you guys are STUPID!!!!! There is a Xbow merchant in almost every town!!!!! You know.... There is a thing called "eyes" use them, there pritty usefull!!!!!
gowth- merlin
# Feb 17 2002 at 11:58 AM Rating: Default
i just got my Xbow and it is horrible like what is the point of using it when i can kill it while meeling fatster
RE: gowth- merlin
# Apr 22 2002 at 3:08 PM Rating: Default
I use my crossbow to pull and to soften up the enemy. Using Flight Broadheads, I can hit most targets twice then change to sword and shield before they are in melee range. About 40 points per hit. Use Bodkins if they look to have armor. Less damage but it gets through.There is another reason to use it for pulling though. The bow users have to constantly buy replacement arrows. It's only fair to shell out some cash occasionally to even things up.
RE: gowth- merlin
# Feb 20 2002 at 10:50 AM Rating: Decent
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A couple of scenarios:

There's a mob you want to kill. Without a crossbow, you run up to him and attack him. He calls some of his friends over. You put up a valiant fight, but eventually die. Your grave is now in the middle of the mobs camp. Not much time for praying there!

If you used a crossbow, you could have drawn the mob out, and seen if he brought some friends. If he did, you can run away, sustaining no damage. Otherwise, just kill him.

If you're fighting a difficult mob, it makes it much easier (better chance of winning, less down time between fights) if he's already sustained a fair bit of damage before he's even reached you.
RE: gowth- merlin
# Feb 19 2002 at 2:55 PM Rating: Default
Yes I agree that it is faster to just go in and whack that mob and take it out. But, what if, there is a group of them milling around and the one you want is in the middle. Or, higher level mobs in between.

This is the tool for Armsmen to draw the mob to them and not have to wade through 2 or 3 melees before being killed by the quest mob you're after.

Give it some time and work with it. In the long run I beleive you will find it a useful tool for soloing.

Riran, 16th lvl Armsman, Iseult
RE: gowth- merlin
# Apr 24 2002 at 1:57 PM Rating: Default
Welp if you're dumb enough to use a X-bow on an infiltrator, you're absolutely stupid. WHY would you use a crossbow and do 40 damage per hit when you can stealth up and backstab or pref artery for a TON more damage than that? That makes no sense. I can see where you would use it on an armsman, but some of the people that use it on infils are stupid unless they're pulling for a group {which rarely happens, usually a caster/scout/minstrel in group that can pull} but if you're dumb enough to shoot it 2 times with a X-bow for 40 damage instead of a 300 damage pref artery, you're dumb ;)

--Arturrum Aybarra/Archrogue Aegis, 37 cleric/infil, Lancelot server
#Anonymous, Posted: Feb 15 2002 at 4:40 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) .
#Anonymous, Posted: Feb 15 2002 at 4:39 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) .
#Anonymous, Posted: Feb 08 2002 at 5:35 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Just to set the record straight... from these posts a xbow can't even be considered in the same class as the longbow. I have a lvl 20 scout maxed in long bow and can do 250+ damage against some blues. And can get 3-4 shots off. So, I think it's great that armsmen get the xbow, but no, it won't replace a scout with a longbow. (Don't get me wrong, even though a play a scout as my primary I don't think they have much value in a group, alot of people can pull).
# Feb 08 2002 at 4:04 PM Rating: Default
also to increase a crossbows range significantly you need to be shooting off a hill or other raised terrain. It can sometimes double the distance your bolts go... Very helpful for RvR and pulling
slow firing?
# Feb 08 2002 at 4:01 PM Rating: Default
Compared to the longbow the crossbow is fast, with 5 delay with oaken compared to 5.4 delay on oaken longbow. Longbow does more damage tho, 5.7 compared to xbows 5.. but its not that slow, if you have high quickness its even faster. In real life reloading crossbow is definitly alot slower then bow tho. Another good thing about crossbows is you can have it ready for ever and you never get tired because your not holding the string. With a bow after about 15 seconds you cant aim it anymore. This is helpful in RvR as you can wait and ambush without having to stop and aim.
# Feb 06 2002 at 9:00 PM Rating: Default
Hi I just started at Alibon and was wondering should i do pull arms or xbows?
# Feb 05 2002 at 8:04 AM Rating: Default
Is it possible to use poisons on crossbow (infiltrator)?
RE: Evenom
# Feb 12 2002 at 12:17 PM Rating: Default
Nope, ive tried... actually i put lethal on my crossbow successfully, but it does nothing, as the bolts are the things that hit the enemy, not the x-bow and you can't envenom them.
# Jan 21 2002 at 12:20 AM Rating: Default
stupid question, but where can I find xbows in camelot?
searched in pretty much all merchants and still cant find it
RE: where
# Feb 10 2002 at 12:14 AM Rating: Default
You can buy crossbows at West Downs too .. but in Camelot, the arrow merchant opposite the Guild of Shadows sells X-bows on the second scroll page
RE: where
# Feb 05 2002 at 10:48 AM Rating: Default
In Camelot near the fletching master, one of the merchants there sell crossbows.
the Crossbows are on the SECOND page of their selling window!!!

Llana Drachenherz - Kay Server
RE: where
# Jan 28 2002 at 9:26 PM Rating: Default
go to humburton. merchant sells them there. i can't remember which building, but they are inside.
What lvl
# Jan 10 2002 at 11:04 PM Rating: Default
What lvl can u train in cross bow?
RE: What lvl
# Feb 08 2002 at 2:42 PM Rating: Default
15th but remember we are not an archer class so no crit shots :)
when can i train
# Jan 10 2002 at 5:21 PM Rating: Default
when can i equip a crossbow, i'm level 10 now and it's tough finding a scout sometimes....
RE: when can i train
# Jan 13 2002 at 11:58 PM Rating: Default
you can equip at 15. you get an embossed x-bow at 12 though.(if you complete a quest from your trainer)
50, 50, 45, 50Xbox
# Dec 27 2001 at 3:18 AM Rating: Default
Yup, the xBow is trainable for the Armsman. As for being a waste of points, I am thinking not at all (having played various archers).

1) Crossbow is a trainable style just as Polearm, Slash, Shield, etc. Therefore, spec'ing in xBow will increase maximum _average_ damage.

2) Also mentioned above, Armsman should be giddy with spec points. Taking into account potential item and RvR rewards, an Armsman could spec to (by 50, and not including auto-training, if any)

39 Slash, 42 Shield, 32 Parry, 40 XBow...

Potentially = 50, 50, 43+, 50+

*Again, this is not counting auto-training. Also, another reminder: the added skill pts (from items and/or RvR rank rewards) give bonuses to hit/dam, not Styles.

Think I might be rolling an Armsman as (another) alt, to see how a pure Tank plays. : )
# Dec 20 2001 at 6:47 PM Rating: Default
Its just great for pulling, and u can kick out the scout in ur group if u got bolts and a bow, since if u buy any long range bolts u can pull far enough, thats why scouts having hard time finding a group in this game, putting points hmm i donno, im lvl 41 and im currently using this orange con bow and does around 60 to 90 to a red, around 120 to 150 to a yellow without putting any points.. so its really up to u guys.. u know a crossbow takes forever to shoot, reload, etc.. u wanna range, int casters.. i dont think that can do much since a caster can fire faster then u, scout and shoot longer and faster then u during RvR, so i dont think crossbow is much of a help in RvR
Definately Useful
# Dec 14 2001 at 11:49 AM Rating: Default
At level 18 I have a 9 skill in Crossbow and think it is well worth it. I can regularly hit for 40+ damage (flight broadheads) and often get 3 shots off before melee. This additional 120+ damage helps. Your skill is important... just like melee skills, the higher your skill, the more often you will hit and for more consistantly high damage. Its not like as an armsman we are short of training points :)
Equipping your Crossbow
# Dec 08 2001 at 1:04 AM Rating: Default
Although this may be a dumb question, I have found it not so easy to equip my crossbow and map a hotkey button in the hotkey bar, because when I go to switch my crossbow out with my weapon, it unmaps my hotkey. Is there another way of doing this or is this just how it is? Thanks for your reply in advance.
RE: Equipping your Crossbow
# Dec 08 2001 at 1:49 AM Rating: Default
Nevermind. I figured it out. :)
# Dec 04 2001 at 12:14 PM Rating: Default
Only uses I know for it are pulling and interrupting casters in PvP..

Other than that lets your scouts / casters do the real long-range dmg..

If your an Armsman your a melee machine.. That's your purpose.. :)
# Dec 02 2001 at 3:23 PM Rating: Default
The crossbow was added to the armsman to complete the 'missile-equipped albion' theme. Like, all the classes in albion have missile weapons in some way or another, which is supposed to be their 'style' in PVP.

Plus, ****, By they time you're level 15 you can spare 6 points to put your xbow at 3, and it's a decent puller for a class that has no pull ability at all.
Who can make crossbow bolts and Crossbows?
# Nov 29 2001 at 12:29 PM Rating: Default
I know that flecthers can make Bows & Arrows (cutting down on thier cost from purchasing from an NPC). However I don't know of anyone who can make crossbows and bolts to cut down on our cost. Does anyone know of which/any skill type that can make these things?
RE: Who can make crossbow bolts and Crossbows?
# Dec 14 2001 at 11:51 AM Rating: Default
Players cannot create bolts at this time. I have a Scout with a 450+ fletching skill and can make most arrows, but still no bolts.
#Anonymous, Posted: Nov 26 2001 at 8:50 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) EVERQUEST SUCKS. they dont have crossbows!
# Nov 26 2001 at 6:48 AM Rating: Default
bah, just use the crossbow for pulling, points are better spent in parry or weapon spec.
lvl for crossbow?
# Nov 23 2001 at 11:06 PM Rating: Default
so you get crossbow skill at 15...? i hope sooner) im level 11 and just did a quest and got a "embossed crossbow" please lemme know if its 15 or sooner thanks
Crossbows a re decent
# Nov 17 2001 at 11:32 PM Rating: Default
the crossbow does actually do some decent damage. with basically no skill in it i was doing around 30 at 19th. which really isnt that bad. i can get 2 hits with the crossbow before the mob gets hand to hand. these were flight bolts.

I am thinking that i might be able to set my inventory up with one flight followed by a short range bolt. that might give a few extra damage points.

Also keep in mind that the damage buffs from paladins and such will add to this so it's very likley that a crossbow hit would do 50 damage to the mob. not bad. doesnt come close to a scout. scouts are wicked.

so any thing special to it?
# Nov 11 2001 at 2:15 AM Rating: Default
so... dont they think we can handel some sort of advanced action from, well, point and shoot?
RE: so any thing special to it?
# Nov 13 2001 at 2:11 PM Rating: Default
Yeah, being a scout, I'm wondering if Armsman get any kind of styles for this. As a scout I only get crit shot 1-6(I think), though they are gonna add volley and quick shot later. Be kinda nice if yall do get some skills, though they should of course not even come close to scout ability, though they should still be useful to ya. Here's a good question though: Why would any armsman actually spec in his crossbow? Does it do enough damage to actually put points in or does it seem to be a stupid waste to points. Just seems like yall got much more important things to worry about.
RE: so any thing special to it?
# Nov 19 2001 at 10:05 AM Rating: Default
Honestly, I don't think it would be unbalancing if the crossbow skill did have similar styles to what Scouts receive. The crossbow is incredibly slow to load, so it isn't like they're going to get three shots fired before something is upon them.
it is a skill
# Nov 09 2001 at 7:39 PM Rating: Default
it is by all means a skill, only thing is that we first get it at 15, other then that its just an ordinary skill
RE: it is a skill
# Nov 15 2001 at 9:24 PM Rating: Default
Can we get critical hit if we keep investing skill points on it? Need to know cuz i feel as though i am wasting these points. Currently @ 17 skill with a 30LVL armsman.
RE: it is a skill
# Nov 19 2001 at 10:06 AM Rating: Default
Have you noticed ANY benefit to the points you've spent? Are you getting more range, do you hit more often, does the crossbow fire faster, etc?
# Nov 07 2001 at 4:56 PM Rating: Default
Think so, I am able to train in crossbow since lvl 15
# Nov 06 2001 at 6:53 PM Rating: Default
I didn't think this skill was trainable, but I just saw an item that gives plus one to crossbow skill. Was I wrong?
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