Celtic Spear  

Type:Melee
Realm:Hibernia
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cs
# Apr 21 2003 at 4:27 PM Rating: Decent
hey if i were to become a CS hero wat should i bee a Celt or Firbolg alsso wat should i spec in Just wandering thanks
CS
# Apr 21 2003 at 4:25 PM Rating: Decent
if i were to make a CS hero should it be a Celt or irbog also wat should i train in Just wanderin thanks
Can a CS hero actually beat a LW hero
# Mar 24 2003 at 5:35 PM Rating: Decent
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I play a 50 celtic spear hero on Gawaine and hes specced 50spear 50parry and every duel I have been challenged to or challenged against a LW specced hero or champ I have lost, I was just wondering why does it seem my hero is so gimped in duels against LW specced fighters. :(
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CS damage type ?
# Jan 11 2003 at 11:10 AM Rating: Decent
what type of damage is CS ??
Slash/Crush or Pierce ?? Im thinking Pierce but wanted to know from someone who "knows"
CS damage type ?
# Jan 11 2003 at 11:09 AM Rating: Decent
what type of damage is CS ??
Slash/Crush or Pierce ?? Im thinking Pierce but wanted to know from someone who "knows"
Spear/LW Hero
# Nov 02 2002 at 1:25 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm thinking of going 44 in Spear/Parry/LW. Looking at the attack discriptions I believe I will get most out Hero this way, switching to Spear for the Mids, and LW for the Albs armor. Do you think this is flawed and I should max parry and spear as many suggest here? And oh yeah, I evade all the time. At character gen. I put more into dex. than into Con. or Str.
Fear The Deer
# Sep 17 2002 at 6:45 PM Rating: Default
When will I get the Huntsman ability?!?!
hmmm
# Jul 24 2002 at 6:44 PM Rating: Default
hunters gift is used after javelin which is used after hunters boon which is used from behind target so it's very useful and used alot...
Just a quick SWeeT & SiMPlE QuEStIon =]
# Jun 29 2002 at 1:11 PM Rating: Default
WHY WOULD YOU NOT WANT TO MAX OUT YOUR CS AND YOUR PARRY....MAKE'S NO SENSE =\
Quick LvL's =]
# Jun 29 2002 at 1:09 PM Rating: Default
If you want to lvl quickley a CS hero and a bard make the best team. Usally i will get my friend on...he's a bard, and we can fight reds all day. At the end of the day i've already gone up 3 lvl's. HEEHEE =] i'ts really fun...
Quick LvL's =]
# Jun 29 2002 at 1:09 PM Rating: Default
If you want to lvl quickley a CS hero and a bard make the best team. Usally i will get my friend on...he's a bard, and we can fight reds all day. At the end of the day i've already gone up 3 lvl's. HEEHEE =] i'ts really fun...
its easy to kill yellows if your a Spear Hero
# Jun 15 2002 at 1:11 PM Rating: Default
spears and heros
# Jun 11 2002 at 7:39 PM Rating: Default
I have a lvl 33 hero, spec'd CS and Parry. spears are CELTIC SPEAR SPEC ONLY. you will almost always want to keep 2 spears on you at all times. in groups, you will want to use your fast spear, otherwise if it aggroes a caster(rare occasion) you will not get your taunt off before the caster is likely to die, especially if you miss. as said before, backup styles using parry openings are a must. tracking/forest is one of the best combinations I've found so far, cause for one, tracking spear stuns the mob, allowing you to pull off another skill before it hits you. in RvR you want to use your slow spear because the damage on slow spears is ungodly, even if they are slow, and considering a long fight in rvr is about 10 seconds, you want to get the most damage in as possible. at lvl 33, I can solo any orange mob, and low lvl reds. the best combination I've found for a group is having 1 spear hero, 1 shield hero, and one bard. spear hero's almost always maintain aggro, and with high spec in parry and the shield hero blocking for you, you barely ever get hit, even from purps, and if you do you have the bard to back up heal and run end song. all I can say to rvr is, /stick and strafe around them after every hit. I have soloed more orange trolls than I can count......they never expect you to charge. <grin>

Cuinneir Ruadh
Shadows of Eire
33 Spear Hero
Igraine
CS rock the boat
# Jun 03 2002 at 6:38 PM Rating: Default
i killed a yellow with no armor and a horilbbe SPEAR go its eather i rock or i rock cant wait for RvR all u mids/ albs will be wishing u stayed with N64
Learn Your Hero
# May 23 2002 at 4:08 AM Rating: Default
To all new users and elder users of a Celtic Spear Hero:

I will first off saying that i love my CS hero, DMG is the way to go with this spec class. And since the recent changes to the class by Mythic, its more enjoyable than ever.
Secondly, if you play this type of hero, you should learn it. Ive seen many other Spear heros around who dont even bother to use the styles except taunt and the other non openers. I usually also see em fail occationally due to overuse of 1 style. I would suggest learning how the backup system works first of all (Thank you Mythic) and getting ur styles into a good formation where you can remember where they are. Learn to watch what happens when you are attacked. With the new backup system, you can now cancel your attacks to bring out a different one but you need to be quick bout it.
For those of you who dont know, the backup style is a system where should your First style that u choose be unable to perform perfectly, it goes to the Second style to perform it. A good example would be 1st Style: Tracking Spear Backup: Forest Spear. I find this all too sweet, even if I miss I can do some dmg, and if I hit, jump for joy. Nsturally you are gonna spec 50 parry and 50 CS, but the remainder will be up to you. Ive heard putting your remainder points into Shield will help in RvR and be able to block arrows more efficently. Or some may put into LW or Blades, entirely up to you, but the most important rule about playing your hero, HAVE FUN, after all, you are paying $10-$12/Month for it =) Peace yall
Forcee: 25 Firbolg CS Hero
Majirayan: 41 Celt Druid
Kamehamehaa: 31 Luikreen Eld
Hero
# May 05 2002 at 2:26 PM Rating: Default
I have a Hero !

If you want to give mush damage then :

Celtic Spear 50
Parry 50

But if you want to be a better tank go up in :

Blades/Blunt
Shield
Parry


I would say that Hero that use Celtic spear are best !


Pockey Spearman
Epic Legion
Lancelot

SEE YOU !
#Anonymous, Posted: Apr 17 2002 at 2:01 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) on group fighting.. think.. your friend takes the lead and makes the big uggly troll attacking him.. you get behind it.. raise your spear (i use barbed) and .. hunters boon.. ouch.. thats gotta hurt he is slowed.. then.. javelin.. ouch ouch.. he is bleeding.. and then hunters gift..ouch ouch ouch.. it makes the mid crap flew out of him.. attack speed reduces and your defend raises.. but i think u cant hit him 3 times.. he should die at the first one.. :) ++ casters in rvr died at one-two hits.. blue viking died at the first..and for the dudes who spoke about the evade thing.. cs spear dude wont evade he is a man/firbolg and we are the warriors of honour .. and also .. i evade once in a day.. :)
Question ?
# Apr 13 2002 at 2:24 PM Rating: Default
Im at lvl 13 Hero, and im advancing well in CS. Something I think that reallie useful is when your soloing keep a spear or short spear on hand. When in groups use your barbed. The dmg range is considerable.

Just thinking, Like all CS heros, Maxing CS and PArry are obvious, unless im wrong. But Should I get a bow? As a puller, bows can be useful. I calculated that after Maxing CS and parry, I could get around 25 bow. Which is not bad. Do you think I should get a bow ?
RE: Question ?
# May 23 2002 at 3:56 AM Rating: Default
First off, you cannot spec in bow, its just a weapon use that you get at LvL 15, and 2nd off, yes get a bow, tanks are almost physically required to have one,except champs, you will get a bow for your lvl 15 epic and thats all you need, well that and long range arrows. CS POWNS!
orbie_bimbo
# Apr 03 2002 at 10:43 AM Rating: Default
i just wanna say ... celtic spears really rock ;)
i can kill some yellows in 3 hurts ;) thats all
and heroines rocks and hibernia rock and DaoC too :)))
Yea
# Mar 30 2002 at 10:13 AM Rating: Default
it progbly could slay a dragon but who knows?
Evader
# Mar 26 2002 at 11:01 AM Rating: Default
Dont wanna sound like a whiner but spears in my estimation are all messed up. They dont exploit what a hero does well. Consider this

Entrap + Hunters largeness chain is based off Evade ...... that is one chain

Later you get Hunters gift which can add to that chain or stand alone again after guess what ..... an EVADE.

MY question is WHY EVADE!.... look guys fact of the matter is this Heroes get Evade one. The skill may or may not be based off anything pertaining to skills or what have you ... but trust me you will ONLY actually evade against blues and MAYBE yellows. Anything higher is a one in a million shot. Gotta say that im very dissippointed that its not parry the chains work off of. Not only would that make ((far)) better sence but it would also be useful and fun to play with. Parry is pumpable with hero's and most heros go with a plot plan end carrear of 50 spears 50 Parry and what ever is left is up to there personal preferance. If it were Parry that these chains went off of Much like every other Combat skill in the game.. we would have us a lotta fun making it work. As it stands now we have a lot of chains that are only useful against blues .... Creatures that die as easy as as snot anyway.... just pointless
RE: Evader
# Mar 29 2002 at 1:32 PM Rating: Default
I personally think the CS rocks & I have had much success with evade against reds & up to purps.& the tracking spear, hawks talon, wyvern talon chain is all based off of a parry. Bah..shields, who needs em anyway....when u got a big **** spear in your hands :-) Thats MHO :)


wonder if anyone's noticed this:
# Mar 07 2002 at 3:01 PM Rating: Default
Look at other weapon styles and tell me the one thing different then that of celtic spear...none of the styles in Celtic Spear have High Bonus Damage. Not that spears need it. I was just looking because I play a 32 Healer, armed with the best armor and weapons possible for my level, fully buffed, and still a yellow Hero smacked the livin crap outta me in RvR. Talking 200+ per hit every time. She had no assistance from others aside from buffs she might have had on. If yer a Hib and wanna do melee...go for Hero with all Spear...
Highest Base Dam
# Feb 17 2002 at 6:35 AM Rating: Default
If Spears have Second highest, what has highest? LW?
but I still don't know if i should put on blades or blunt, too...cause anyone says somethin else
:-/
straight offense
# Jan 21 2002 at 1:08 AM Rating: Decent
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this is the way to go. If ya want to do alot of damge this is it for meele:) im only lvl 23 right now but if its yellow its dead.

madiroan lvl 23 hero of THE SIXTH TOOTH
pendadragon- TEST SERVER


Base Stats
# Jan 20 2002 at 11:25 AM Rating: Default
What are the base stats for celtic Spear...Str and Dex or something else...would like to know...


guide for spears
# Jan 13 2002 at 6:50 PM Rating: Default
spears are mainly for groups see you take in a lot of DM thats what healers are for,if you wanna solo i would recomand faster spears like short spears and just spears and use large ones for grouping and dont get piised at them and drop em if they suck at first (heard that someone had a problem for a couple of first lvls) I personaly chosse spears cause they ROCK aganst midgard in RvR (i dislike midgard a lot) also tip have your celtic spear skill at the same or higher your lvl for max damage(DM) and they do thrust damage a uniqe damage for spears and for all of you out there get to lvl 15 fast cause when you do YOU WILL ROCK rwhen i was lvl 8-15 get someone from guild a high lvler healer to buff me all the way,i could solo oranges and lvl up very quickly so have happy hunting ROCK ON HIBERIAN WARRIORS peace and happy killing midgadians
headache
# Dec 04 2001 at 1:47 PM Rating: Decent
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there is no base for large weopans or spears they are there own skills....right?
RE: headache
# Dec 15 2001 at 10:15 AM Rating: Default
Correct, they finally owned up and admited that LW's do not use any other skill, so you don't have to train in blade/blunt to use LW's. The same holds true with CS, even though it's piercing damage you don't have to train in pierce.
Do they use another skill?
# Nov 27 2001 at 3:29 PM Rating: Default
Hi, I have put all my points into the Spear, but I do not seem to be doing anywhere near the damage that others are doing, for extra damage is pierce skill required as well?
RE: Do they use another skill?
# Jan 09 2002 at 8:18 PM Rating: Default
No you don't, put all points into cs and parry. I am a lvl41 Hero and hit harder then anybody my lvl other then casters.
Quick question
# Nov 19 2001 at 10:29 PM Rating: Default
Does spear take pierce skill as well as Celtic Spear?
Entrap AND Tracking spear
# Nov 17 2001 at 10:58 PM Rating: Default
both Entrap and TrackingSpear work after a successful Evade... VERY USELESS!!!

Don't ever think you will pull either of these off...Especially in a group environment
RE: Entrap AND Tracking spear
# Jan 17 2002 at 2:05 PM Rating: Decent
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Never evade? Evade to my knowledge has a Qui and Dex check on it... or Qui at least. I have a few characters in all the realms on various servers but one thing seems to be universal to me is quicker and more agile characters evade more. So if your saying moves that start with an evade are usless, I might check a few things. 1- How good is your dex and quickness? 2- In groups are you getting the aggro, evade only works if the thing is on you and if its not (and your not main tank) don't complain :)

Ok well that's my 2cp, Good Hunting to you All
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RE: Entrap AND Tracking spear
# Dec 05 2001 at 5:36 AM Rating: Default
why would you never pull these off?? i evade all the time i dont get it
Entrap?
# Nov 05 2001 at 4:34 PM Rating: Default
If Celtic Spear is two handed why is the combat move Entrap use after blocking target? If you have no sheild out how are you suppose to block?
RE: Entrap?
# Nov 15 2001 at 7:00 AM Rating: Default
most likely this is a typo there was one or two skills that my hunter recieved for spears that said to use after blocking, and seeing as A)spears are two handed and 2)hunters don't use shields.. i questioned the same thing, someone else pointed out it was a typo in the game files and it worked after parrying (maybe it was after evading not 100%) so i tried it out in game and sure enuff it worked that way, and later i believe they fixed what it said in the skill description in game too (don't play my hunter anymore tho, till they put in tracking)
clarification
# Nov 03 2001 at 12:50 PM Rating: Default
celtic spears are 2handed and based SOLEY on your celtic spear skill...large weapons are based off slsahing/blunt (depending on the large weapon), which makes spears very useful, on the downside, their damage is 50/50 str/dex, which means if you have a low dex, your damage will suffer =(
currently at lvl 21...the spear i used, a barbed spear, is incredibly slow...but with special attacks the dmg output is insane!! can usually do over 150 with hunter's lance, and forest spear, my taunt goes around 80...this is on blues/yellows..but even on oranges/reds its still pretty scary..:)
Spears
# Oct 29 2001 at 1:32 PM Rating: Default
Some post once had these things as stand alone items. This meaning they weren't reliant on piercing or large weapons. I believe this was addressed on a camelotvault.com forum extensively. Allthough, I'm not sure if there was anything definative. My guess would be to wait and read up before putting points into piercing and large weapons. It's one of those things we don't want to regret latter. Of course the are 2H weapons and DEX and STR will apply like in all spears.
Large Weapons?
# Oct 28 2001 at 6:47 AM Rating: Default
Do these count as large weapons? Thrust weapons? What? Other than putting points into Celtic Spears and Parry - what should I look at, Piercing or Large Weapons?
1H of 2H?
# Oct 18 2001 at 6:28 AM Rating: Default
they're two handed
Spears are 2h
# Oct 17 2001 at 1:36 AM Rating: Default
1H or 2H?
# Oct 16 2001 at 10:14 PM Rating: Default
OK, this is a question I've seen argued on other boards that I would like a definitive answer to before I hit level 5 and choose my fate regarding weapons.

ARE CELTIC SPEARS 1-HANDED OR 2-HANDED WEAPONS!?

Thank you very much in advance.
RE: 1H or 2H?
# Oct 28 2001 at 7:44 PM Rating: Default
2-Handed, Pericing. same dam penaltys as any other percing weapon. But on the plus side they have the second highest base dam in the game.
(according to DAoC strategy guide)
Yeah!
# Oct 12 2001 at 8:36 AM Rating: Default
I hear these things looked very bad-***. WoW, whoever told me was right. I saw a Hero walk by me with one and I almost passed out. It looks like it could slay a dragon, if it tripped over it.
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