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Ranger specc
# Jul 28 2003 at 4:29 PM Rating: Decent
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Okay, I have a lvl 16 ranger.. max in bow and 10 pierc and CD and 7 Path. I know it's a little stupid but it's easy to change.. Okay, if you have max in bow you don't have to melee as much - smart, huh? And Pierc is dex and strenght, blades are 100% strenght. Only if you have more strenght go for blades but I don't care, max your bow and you'll never have to melee so you shouldn't max your pierc/slash/CD but still, it's nice to have a light tank on the team ;-)
Just my opinion, hope you can use it ;-)
Btw, my ranger is a Celt and he maybe do better in melee than elves/lurikeen because of his strenght

Edited, Mon Jul 28 17:59:45 2003
Ranger spec
# Jul 01 2003 at 4:54 AM Rating: Excellent
34 posts
Lots of people have posted some good, some bad, I now want to post my opinion.. first off, I don't know it all, and if you don't agree with me, don't listen.

Bow- Your bow is your bread and butter, if you dont use it, chances are you won't succeed. If you don't want to use a bow, perhaps ranger isn't your style. Personally I keep mine maxed, and plan to take it to 50. However, I can see logic in only taking it to 39, then maxing it with items, if you plan to do this, keep your bow maxed until 39th level, since it is absolutly vital to your success.

Blades/Piercers- Which you pick is not big deal, its playstyle, the choice between blades and piercers is NOT a life altering one, simply pick one, and go with it. Blades do more avg. dmg, piercers are faster. Blades get bonus damage more often in pve (in my experience) piercers get bonus damage more often in rvr. Piercers styles are better in my personal opinion, however yours may not be the same.

Celtic Dual- I went with 10 cd myself, some say it makes a BIG diff, some say it makes no diff, I hardly melee so I'm not missing out on too much. I don't know all the hard core facts, but I wouldn't burn valuable points on it unless you know something I don't.

Stealth- If you want to RVR get some, if not, don't. I don't personally see any logical reason for going over 20ish, however I have 20 myself and find it quite useful. The extra speed and the ability to be able to move away from people moving toward me without being seen is well worth the points to me.

Pathfinding- Your self buffs are your advantage over the other archer classes, they are an awesome help especially if you solo a lot, which you will most likely as a ranger as we aren't one of the most desirable classes in a group and I, myself, tend to gain much more exp in an alloted time solo. I'd say spec a good bit into this pre-20 then around 20ish slack off it and get some stealth. The buff's do a LOT of good in lower levels, and will always be well worth the points.

Race- This one ****** me off somethin fierce, I myself am an Elf. My elven ranger has absolutly no trouble doing anything I've ever seen a luri/celt do. These people out here who say Elf rangers are gimps, shove it up your ****!

Your race IS NOT and I repeat IS NOT a make or break decision, no matter what class you are, what race you choose WILL not destroy or godlify (yes I made that word up) your character. You may be at a small advantage/disadvantage, but it's not something to ruin your day.

I know it was long, thanks for listenin, flame away if you must, these are my opinions and ideas and there isn't much you can say to change them.
RE: Ranger spec
# Nov 02 2004 at 11:17 AM Rating: Decent
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I would have to agree with you I have a lvl 35 Elf Ranger and have no problem lvling or RvR'ing with him. I also have a Luri ranger at the 13th lvl and find very little difference in the two. My elf i choose to use blades and have had very little problem lvling even with a low str. stat. My luri i have decided to peirce and know he will turn out to be a fabuolus ranger. I would not suggest a sheild for in any Ranger, might as well hold a large mirror and flash it in the eyes of all your enemies. Just my thoughts take it or leave it.
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RE: Ranger spec
# Jul 29 2003 at 5:08 AM Rating: Decent
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I agree with a lot of what you say, and to add on the pierce/blade thing, I find that pierce styles are better, but if you are using a shield and no CD, a lot of blades styles are 'block' dependant or chain of 'block' styles, so if you are going with a shield maybe consider blades...

Again played both elf and luri ranger, the only 'small' difference is that it's sometimes harder to select a luri due to size, but if you're running away :p or half a mile away plinking off arrows, then it hardly matters...

My lvl30 Ranger is one of my alts, so thx for your POV, it all adds to the melting pot... :)


Anegale BloodRayne
Deadly Nightshade.

Edited, Tue Jul 29 06:00:42 2003
Rangers
# May 31 2003 at 8:28 AM Rating: Default
okay numskull with the attudide EQ SUCKS!!!! no one cares about you in eq its every man for himself as well as in midgard and if you think rangers stink and your concerned about tanking then play midgard i bet your get your @%% kicked an \d i hope you do btw ranger arent spouss to have to tank you moran!!@ they are spouss to be trained as snipers so that you kill mobs bfore they reach you plus a broadswoard and a falcata kick 2 stillitos @$$es any day also if you read the page after you create your chacter lurks are MEDIOCRE rangers and celt/elves are average so hummm should get called mediocre?? or AVREREAGE!!!!!!!!


:-P Will Cassell
50 Celt Ranger
Hibernia/Merlin
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RE: Rangers
# Jun 09 2003 at 8:56 PM Rating: Default
Holy run on sentences, Batman!
RE: Rangers
# May 21 2004 at 7:44 PM Rating: Decent
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LOL
Capping Recurve
# May 24 2003 at 1:21 PM Rating: Default
Ok, I have a question. Is there a point to pracing Recurve to 50, over pracing it to 35 and Spell Crafting, etc, the skill up to 50? I know there are reasons with Spells and Styles, but why with Recurve?
Race
# Mar 03 2003 at 12:43 PM Rating: Decent
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Which race should i pick to be a ranger?
Ok ok
# Oct 07 2002 at 11:45 PM Rating: Default
Please guys, ok i will admit a ranger sux soloing in a RVR (i havnt killed one person solo yet)if you spec it right tho, like have stealth up, then you will have more sucess then i have. But with a grp, i rock, it helps to have someone watching my back and when the meelees are fighting and dieing and complaining for a res, im there, crit shooting away. Im lvl 21 and crit shot someone for 200 hps, needless to say, he went the other way pretty quick. In a PvE im ok i just do kill tasks and im good. Rangers are easy to an extent, but also require time and effort. It just all goes down to how you spec.

Talwei Underforg
21 Ranger
Hibernia, merlin
RE: Ok ok
# Jun 17 2003 at 2:34 PM Rating: Default
im pretty good RvR. im at L-23 and i can kill pretty much any yellow or blue caster in one hit. im bow spec if u didnt know. but i think rangers are pretty good soloing, although of course i would rather have a healer behind me for when the stealthers decide to poison me or so... just wanted to add my two cents
Rangertank
# Aug 27 2002 at 1:17 PM Rating: Default
Celt ranger is an alternative choice, put 10 in str/con/qui.
Celt ranger at lvl24: blade 21 bow 23 path 12
Stealth is next to usless because assasain classes will always see you before you see them, this way you can kill them *AFTER* they CS you, I know, I have done it many times to both shadowblades and infiltrators :) This way you can deal damage at range and in melee.
Nightbreed
# Jul 16 2002 at 2:54 PM Rating: Default
I'm a lvl 32 Ranger Elf, my recurve is at 29 or 30. Is 30 the max or can I still train in it. I was told crit Shot IX is the highest. Anyone know?
Also I have been puting alot in stealth now that my recurve is pretty high, anyone have any suggestions?
#Anonymous, Posted: Jun 03 2002 at 12:01 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) plz give it up rangers r too gimp to play and survive in rvr.they r the most gimped class after nerfs.i feel sory for all u ppl who still plays any archer type.
RE: nerfhater
# Sep 01 2002 at 4:31 AM Rating: Default
ohh... thats why my lvl 46 ranger killed a lvl 50 armsman ! yep they must be realy gimped ! LOL
Elven Elven Ranger kicking hiney...
# May 09 2002 at 9:35 AM Rating: Default
To all those nimrods out there who preach that Elven Ranger is a poor template, Let me illuminate you. I chose this class because for my money, I want to find challenge in the game, and all the negative press re: Elf/Ranger weaknesses helped me decide this was the choice for me. If I wanted a cakewalk I'd play the kids' playstation and load up on cheat codes. I just reached lvl 17, with no grouping, and am easily dropping oranges now, with minimum melee, and less than 25% loss in hp's. Of course this occurs only after succesful critical hit, and successful secondary shot, otherwise I run like ****. I never use blades, as the % to hit/speed is greater with dual wield and piercing styles, plus there are more bonus enhancing items for the ranger in these skill areas. To all hibernian enemies who hate my sneaky & shady kind, just know that I'm coming for you, and death is coming with me.

He who walks with the shadows
Elven ranger blow big time!
# May 11 2002 at 10:15 AM Rating: Default
Still not illuminated. Why did you choose an elven ranger, makes no sense at all. Elves are gimped lurikeens if we talk about rangers, nothing else. There is really nothing to discuss here. If you have such an easy time soloing oranges, it would be even more easy being a lurk. You cant think the mobs to death you know. Elves take 5 points from dex and quick and put em into int which does nothing N O T H I N G fora a ranger. And blades... the reason you dont use blades is just as simple, you do MORE dmg with piercing since damage is based on both dex and str instead of str only which is the case with blades. The chance to hit is based on you dex, not you weapon.

Someone a bit more illuminated

Read the guide on the ranger main page...
RE: Elven ranger blow big time!
# Aug 15 2002 at 2:20 PM Rating: Default
I've said this before on other pages, but some of you just don't get it. It isn't about the class, the race, or the points. These can dampen effectivness, but aren't as important as who's behind the keys. YOU have to know how YOU'RE going to play a class and make it work for YOU. Besides, why are you so mad, anyway? If you're not, sorry, I'm wrong, but you seem ****** off at something. You just get killed by a Ranger or something. And one last thing, if you're so against archers, why don't you stop looking at their message boards?
RE: Elven ranger blow big time!
# Aug 01 2002 at 4:07 PM Rating: Decent
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Advice to Mr Anonymus. Take your additude and go play Everquest where fun is second to being "the best."

Not all of us are concerned with having the "best" race for a particular class, or even think there are "best" races for classes. I picked a Celtic ranger (which by your method would be the "worst" choice) and haven't had any abnormal problems, or someone from a real high-end guild come up and say "why did you pick that race?!" Sure I may not hit for quite as much damage as a half-pint under ideal conditions, but when things go sour I've can take a beating better than any lurikeen, and I can lug more arrows with me.
Best advice to anyone looking to play a particular race/class combination - forget what people say is the "best" race. Pick the race you want to play, put the starting points where you think they'll do the most good, and learn to play your class well. You'll get stat-enhancing equipment soon enough that levels the field, and you may just discover that you have some advantages of the guy that picks "the best" race doesn't have when you have to step outside of you tradition role.

Wrenwing Grousehawk
11 Ranger
Rendale Ravenfeather
54 EQ Ranger (retired and deleted)
RE: Elven ranger blow big time!
# Sep 15 2002 at 7:01 PM Rating: Default
word. i'm sick of people telling me what is best. if people paid attention then everyone would be playing the same races/classes that would be REALLY FUN eh? here's the bottom line....it's a game...YOUR game. play what YOU want and what YOU think is FUN. if you're not having fun even as some uber beyatch then what's the point?
follow up
# Apr 25 2002 at 1:52 PM Rating: Decent
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regarding the other post, i am not suggesting that assasin classes get nerfed. I respect the effort it takes to level an assassin class since groups rarely appreciate what an assasin can contribute to a non-RVR group. I think they should be highly rewarded for their efforts to level up. The same can be said though for archer classes when it comes to exp groups though. My position is archer classes' chances of hitting with a full crit should be at least close to the assassins backstab. I think we should be able to override bladeturn at least partially. Again this comes from a mind of only 25 seasons to date but i wanted to clarify my intentions of the other post.
crit shots
# Apr 25 2002 at 1:41 PM Rating: Decent
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just fishing for opinions here and correct me if i am wrong. Archers vs assasins. It seems that in rvr that an archers crit shot misses when an opponent has bladeturn on. I have been attacked by assasins with bladeturn on and it seems to overrride it. It seems that an assassins rarely if ever miss a backstab because stealth is too effective. Yet it seems all to frequent that my crit shot in my lvl 24 ranger with 24 recurve and a dex of 145 will miss all to frequently to evades, parries and the mid that was able to block completely 8 or so shots in a row with his shield the other night. i would think a recurve skill at my lvl and the highest lvl possible in the 20-24 bg would allow me to at least partially hit this norseman who conned yellow, but i am gettin away from the original subject. The archer's crit is to him/her as the assasin's backstab. no question since we are not tanks and do not have any other way to inflict damage to outweigh our limited hps. There seems to be an inequality to the effectiveness of our main damage dealers, not to mention an understood difference in stealth ability. Seems like tracking would level that field a bit but again i stray. Granted my highest lvl is 25 at this time and i have not shot a bow with a recurve skill at 50 yet. Does this inequality also exist at higher levels?
RvR
# Apr 20 2002 at 2:55 PM Rating: Default
I say ***** the meele skills and max Recurve and stealth for the best RvR Ranger.
RE: RvR
# Apr 25 2002 at 2:00 PM Rating: Default
i think low lvl melee skills help to get you through lower levels but agree they are pretty useless in rvr if you are an archer class with the exception of the Mid hunter class which has formidable melee ability. Hibs and albs archer classes rarely last more than seconds in melee confrontations because of their low hp. you are better off not to be seen and to strike from afar.
Quests
# Apr 14 2002 at 11:51 AM Rating: Default
If you want to learn about quests, goto

www.warcry.com and go under the DAOC quests search where you can limit quests to your class and lvl. thats how i found all the quests i can do up to lvl 50, i just keep printing them out and crossing them off as i do them

send me a tell if you're on!

Kelliy
Tristan Server
U.S.
spec points
# Apr 14 2002 at 11:49 AM Rating: Default
ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS keep bow at max!, after that pour some into pathfinding for the first couple buffs then the rest into stealth, Rangers are made for chucking arrows not tanking with swords, i say ***** them really, i can usually kill a yellow monster before it reaches me.

find me online! im willing to talk

Kelliy
Tristan server
U.S.
RE: spec points
# Sep 01 2002 at 4:38 AM Rating: Default
i sure do agree in ALWAYS put full bow... but i also think you should put some in CD and blades/pierce ! at lvl 46 witch i am now i did Stealth 41 blades 20 path 16 bow 46 and CD 12.
i was in combat with a armsman and he came close to me so i had to melee.... and i killed him thats why i think weapon spec is pretty important to. !

Deiliol
Lancelot
Best lvling places
# Apr 09 2002 at 3:22 PM Rating: Default
Im kinda new and I wouldm like to know where the best places for a lvl 9 ranger to lvl/ and or what and where are there quests i can do?
Critical shots
# Apr 07 2002 at 12:55 PM Rating: Default
What skill level do you get a new critical shot? im level 14 w/ recurve bow at 11 or 12 cant remember and i have Critical Shot IV
RE: Critical shots
# Apr 10 2002 at 11:22 AM Rating: Decent
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Critical shot comes in at these level of Recurve Bow training...

lvl 3 Critical Shot 1
lvl 6 Critical Shot 2
lvl 9 Critical Shot 3
lvl 12 Critical Shot 4
lvl 15 Critical Shot 5
lvl 18 Critical Shot 6
lvl 21 Critical Shot 7
lvl 24 Critical Shot 8
lvl 27 Critical Shot 9
Stealth
# Mar 30 2002 at 3:39 PM Rating: Default
Oh yeah, and its not really worth putting any points into stealth until you hit RvR. With the new low level battlegrounds in place, that means starting at 20.
RE: Stealth
# Sep 01 2002 at 4:42 AM Rating: Default
agreed... much easyer to solo w/o stealth spec :)
Speccing IMO
# Mar 30 2002 at 3:37 PM Rating: Default
Personaly, I keep Bow maxxed, Blades at 1/2, Pathfinding at a little over 1/2, and Celtic Dual at about 1/4. Blades is the best melee spec IMO even if you're a Elf or Lurikeen. Blades do more damage than Pierce overall, and there's more high level magical Blade weapons than there is with Pierce. The only issue with this is that Rangers only gain 1 point of Strength every 2-3 levels. And speccing in Celtic Dual DOES NOT increase your minimum and maximum damage you can do with your offhand weapon. It only raises the chance to hit with the ofhand by .5 %, you start with a 25% chance to hit and it raises .25% automatically per level. So if you want to do decent damage with both your main and offhand weapon, put points into either Blades or Piercing, whichever type of weapon you're using. And by the way, the Piercing and Blades styles are overall better than the Celtic Dual styles. Hope this helps some people.
RE: Speccing IMO
# May 23 2002 at 10:48 AM Rating: Default
it seems strange to me that you have points in blades AND celtic dual...thats just me bu i would put ur blade's points in dual ot dual's in blades just my opinion

RE: Speccing IMO
# Sep 01 2002 at 4:45 AM Rating: Default
CD is for duel weild and blades are for hitting faster... thats why you should put points in both
What do you think about my speccing?
# Mar 28 2002 at 5:53 PM Rating: Default
I personally max out my Recurve, keep Pathfinding and CD at half, and put the rest in stealth (taking it to more than half my level)... I put NO points in individual weapons, but I use piercing so as to get the DEX bonus to dmg...
help
# Mar 18 2002 at 8:45 PM Rating: Default
what do u all mean by blades i understand that pericing is wit that small like dager but what is blades ????


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RE: help
# Mar 20 2002 at 10:52 AM Rating: Decent
Blades, is like swords.
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RE: help
# Apr 25 2002 at 3:30 PM Rating: Default
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lol
RE: help
# May 14 2002 at 4:25 PM Rating: Default
He who laughs last, thinks slowest. =)
RE: help
# Jun 08 2002 at 11:08 PM Rating: Default
he who laughs last laughs longest
RE: help
# Aug 19 2002 at 6:34 PM Rating: Default
he who laughs last...gets da cookies!!
WTF
# Mar 14 2002 at 2:40 PM Rating: Default
okay im reading this and im trying to decide what class i wann be since im just buying the game..
WTF are you guys talking about Orange blue yellow
what the **** does that mean if your bow cons orange does that mean it could kick your @$$ i mean come on and speak english for some peeps who are newbs and jsut trying to decide what class to start you guys are not very helpful make me wanna be a differnt class...
RE: WTF
# Mar 17 2002 at 8:34 PM Rating: Default
yOU SHOULD READ THE MANUAL THEN SHOULDNT YOU? bUT ANYWAYS IF SAY A BOW WAS BLUE TO YOU THAT MEANS ITS LIKE EASY FOR YOUR CHARACTER TO USE, IF ITS YELLOW ITS EQUAL TO YOUR CHARACTER BUT WILL DEGRADE A TAD FAST, IF ITS ORANGE IT WILL DEGRADE PRETTY FAST AND BE A BIT TOUGH FOR YOU TOO USE,RED AND PURPLE WOULD BE TOO MUCH. GRAY IS TOO LOW AND GREEN ISNT GREAT.
RE: WTF
# Mar 20 2002 at 10:59 AM Rating: Decent
You should also note, items that are a higher color have better stats for that class of item. I usually like to have all orange items. Good stats + wont degrade as fast as red or purple. Colors go like this.
grey 3 lvls or more below u
green 2 lvls below u
blue 1 lvl below u
yellow = u
orange 1 lvl above u
red 2 lvls above u
purple 3 lvls or more above u.
This works for all conning. Not sure if they get more spread out at higher lvls. but up to 10 it works.
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RE: WTF
# Apr 28 2002 at 7:04 PM Rating: Default
Maybe ya shouldn't go swearing and cussing just because you don't understand the con system. You will still encounter the same probs with any other class.

Its not a hard system, read the manual or use yer head

Forget Styles, and forget the Myths
# Mar 07 2002 at 4:46 PM Rating: Good
I just wanted to clear a couple things up here.

Never choose your spec lvl for a skill simply for style ability. Bows are just like any other weapon when it comes down to the fact that your spec lvl affects your max dmg output. So stopping at 27-30 really hurts you in the long run. Also, the same holds true for CD/Pierce/slash. Though CD spec lvl affects the speed of your attacks.
Please keep this in mind as you are reading those spec lists and saying, "Oh.. nothing good comes after spec #x)

A couple other things to remember. Forget the items. I saw someone post that a person is crazy for taking anything other than slashing, due to the slash weapons in game. LOL that was funny. You can tell that came from soemone not thinking too hard on the subject. First of all, there are some pretty cool pierce weapons that you can find out there. (Like the ones that drop from Grannies.) Then look at the speed factor, and then last but not least.. pierce is the best weapon hands down against chain armor in RvR (and both albs and middies wear chain). Blunt's great for plate, and slash is the red headed step child for RvR;) Pierce even works better against those casters.

I'm not saying to base you char on what I said. I'm just pointing out what so many here overlook.
me
# Feb 20 2002 at 11:03 AM Rating: Default
heres me

Recurve : 6
Peircing : 2
Slashing : 5
stealth : 3
pathfinding : 2

I am lvl 7. should i reroll my character?
RE: me
# Mar 20 2002 at 11:07 AM Rating: Decent
No heheh. at lvl 7 your not a big deal if you put a few points into something u dont want. heres what my point distrubtion is going to look like at 50. stealth 20, blades 20, pathfinding 50, bow 40, celtic dual 10, and piercing 20, with about 8 more points to put in any of those. Is this good distrubtion?
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RE: me
# Sep 01 2002 at 4:57 AM Rating: Default
you stupid ? but pierce and blades and CD and if you only wonna do stealth 20.. the drop it ! and do stealth 0 its the same for lvl 50's and ALWAYS do full bow spec
bow 50 vs bow 30
# Feb 13 2002 at 11:10 AM Rating: Default
Okay if i have facts right u get Critical Hit X (10) at 30. There seems to be an agrument that maybe u should stop recurve then as no additional skills are possible. Now Volley And Long shot might come above 30 (but assuming they don't for now.) IS it worthwhile going to 50 on Bow. Presently i'm planning on going to almost 50... 46-50 somewhere in there.

Questions
1) What is your bow at?
2) What lvl r u?
3) How much dmg (pls u example) do u do at any lvl above 35 lets say on a yellow Conn and a blue conn?

Hopefully some older kin will post and show us that a) bow above 30 doesn not matter b) bow skill above 30 does matter.
RE: bow 50 vs bow 30
# Feb 13 2002 at 11:17 AM Rating: Default
okay i learned that Critical Hit IX is last one at 27. Same question still pends pls.
RE: bow 50 vs bow 30
# Sep 01 2002 at 5:01 AM Rating: Default

always bow 50 ! dosnt metter if you have X... if you spec it higher it will always get better... at lvl 46 i have bow 46 ! and i do almost 750 dmg on a lvl 50 caster ! im sure i wont with only bow 30. and another thing, you will hit more often with max bow :)
edit to previous post
# Feb 08 2002 at 9:29 AM Rating: Default
you would be a toddler with a q-tip if CD and piercing werent very high
RE: edit to previous post
# Feb 14 2002 at 9:33 PM Rating: Default
It's stupid to go CD & Piercing... Considering that all the desired weapons after 29th (Cresent Reaver, Caustic slicer, & Pest Sickles) are all bladed weapons. If you don't max in bow, and don't want to RVR which needs the stealth, and don't want buffs, then sure... Be moron and go pierce. CD is ok, but I recommend staying with bow, and dumping a lot into path and stealth. Unless you plan on fighting water beetles forever...
RE: edit to previous post
# Apr 03 2002 at 4:46 PM Rating: Default
some of you people just need to realize this is a game, ditch your arrogant know it all crap, there are plently good piercing weapons after 30th, forsaken rapier, and CS rapier, i use blades and i can atleast name AFEW think if those that DO us piercing weapons. Besides if someone wants to go piercing fine who cares why are they a moron for choosing that path?

Laertise
42nd ranger -- Guinevere
"guildless and proud so don't bother asking!"
my advice to rangers and would be's
# Feb 08 2002 at 9:27 AM Rating: Default
in my opinion i believe that bowage should be maxed, as it has been afore mentioned, besides, when they add the 2 other skills that we are supposed to get (long shot and volley) you might miss out. but i would have CD and piercing equal adn at lvl 50 should be like 25 or 27 (if your a celt probably blades, since the other two ranger types arent very strong, they should be using piercing cause they rely on dex more than blades) id bring path finding to around 25 - 27 since the improvements you get after 27 are pathetically small, and stealth not very high, id use it to creep around but i wouldnt want to try and sneak through groups of people, and once you fire anyways you cant stealth again for a bit.

my reasoning behind the cd and piercing at those lvls is that somtimes your gonna need to melee, and when that time comes around you will be the equivelent to a toddler stabbing at a enemy player with a q-tip, that and having higher CD means you should be CD-ing more often, (also weapon speed deal with that, if both of your weapons are at around the same speed logically they should both hit at the same time) but having a higher CD would increase the rate at which you do this, and piercing ( or blades ) because if you have a high skill in the weapon you are using you should miss or fumble less. and everyone should know about that, it has frustrated me. i miss that very last swing and i die, but i rely on my bow a wee bit more, since blues are dead before thay get to me and yellows are pretty close. not that im a lvl 50 though, only a 16, but ive thought it out and used some resources.

and one thing, if you are thinking about becoming a ranger, elves are the worst race to pick (even though im one)
when will that extra int come in handy, i dont know either.


well thats the end of my long spiel, and remember this is all in my very own humble opinion, build your char how YOU want to play
RE: my advice to rangers and would be's
# Sep 01 2002 at 5:08 AM Rating: Default
Amen
Let's see if I can help
# Feb 06 2002 at 7:34 PM Rating: Default
Hi Folks! It's interesting to see posts of people that have no idea in the world what they're doing??? I even read one that said, "Rangers all end up the same in the end anyway..." HAHA

If you're starting a Ranger or planning on it, here's the skinny. I am a 27th lvl Ranger and I love my character! The recurve advice holds true... match the training every lvl until 30th. Some posts say Crit IX is the highest, but I'm pretty sure it goes to X. Don't know yet, I need to confirm with another guildie.

As for the rest, here's my template:

Recurve = 27
Pathfinding = 25
Stealth = 7
Blades = 1
Piercing = 1
Celtic Dual = 4

I've obviously gone for the highest buff factor strictly for solo. The 4 in Celtic is for Misty Gloom & Blinding Rain. At 25th lvl you'll get Evade III and of course the dodge becomes a factor, so I unleash a Blinding Rain after every evade. Any other melee attacks are constant Misty Glooms!

After 30th I plan on every point going into Stealth and Pathfinding. So how does it work?

My Crit does approx 280 Max and over 120 for every addition shot.

Blues = Dead without question, a long way out!
Yellows = Usually die 2 or 3 paces out...
Oranges = Solo easily, but I need to wip out the Sword of the Keeper & the Earthen Defender.

I have hot keyed both swords as 3 and 4, and then Misty Gloom as 5. If I see the interrupt, then I hit 3,4,5 and I instantly start with a Gloom. Just keep nailing the 5 over and over until they're dead or you run out of endurance. If I get an evade, then I hit 6 (hot keyed Blinding Rain) to get the bleed damage.

Make sure you're wearing armor with Dex & Quick bonuses... Much more important than AF. At 27th I'm maxed at 209 Dex and my quickness is only 178. I use the Sibrian Recurve from Glory quest and have Thrall's Recurve waiting until it cons orange.

The Stealth issue is rather simple. With a 10 Stealth (Buffed from items), I still get tripped over in the broad daylight. At 11 Stealth you're suppose to get detect, but besides that the higher it goes, the faster you can run while stealthed and you will stay stealthed while preparing a Crit shot.

Bottom line... Make your character how you want it to be. It's a game for fun, so have tons of it!!! Good Luck and Happy hunting...

Jadzea
<Crimson Death>
27th Lvl Ranger
RE: Let's see if I can help
# Sep 01 2002 at 5:16 AM Rating: Default
i would say dont putt that much in Path.... you will get buffs from the druid/wardens/bards in your group !!
RE: Let's see if I can help
# Mar 04 2002 at 4:18 AM Rating: Default
dude i agree with ur template for ranger but i think in some cases the type of mob has a great impact on whether or not u can solo em.

blue=ded after 3 shots max
yelo=ded after all shots (i can get 4 off at max range) and melee
orange=nearly ded after all shots and melee but if ur weak u will prolly die.

jarule
lvl 25 ranger merlin
use of skills
# Jan 24 2002 at 5:27 PM Rating: Default
Hi! I am a lvl 6 Ranger and i want to know what "stealth and pathfinding" are good for? what do they do and how can i use them?

Thx
Urlor
RE: use of skills
# Jan 27 2002 at 1:14 AM Rating: Default
Stealth is good for hiding from monsters and players. Higher stealth less likely detected and the closer a target has to be to you to get a detection roll.

Pathfinding is your buff spells and run spells. Nice utility spells in making you a stronger archer/meleer by increasing your stats and it gives you a nice runaway spell.
RE: use of skills
# Jan 27 2002 at 1:15 AM Rating: Default
Oh and stealth really isnt that useful at lower levels. I'd wait till getting into pvp (levels 25+) before putting much in stealth.
RE: use of skills
# Feb 07 2002 at 4:49 PM Rating: Default
i wouldn't wait past level 15 at latest or you will be WAY behind the power curve---by 30 you want your stealth near max and if you start at 25 it wont even get close unless you drop everything else including recurve
Quick question
# Jan 21 2002 at 10:33 AM Rating: Default
I am new to the ranger class and I just got my bows and trained it up. My question is, when entering combat and after you have fired your bow a couple of times how do you quickly switch to your melee weapons?
RE: Quick question
# Jan 27 2002 at 1:16 AM Rating: Default
Drag your weapon slots to your hotkey bar. Kinda a pain in the **** changing since you'll need to use 3 hot slots. 1 for your bow, 1 for your right hand weapon, 1 for your left hand weapon.
Bows
# Jan 15 2002 at 2:09 PM Rating: Default
ok... is there a difference in anything bewtween a recurve and great recurve? i know theres a slight damage difference and a delay difference... but i dont really see any distance differenace at all. just asking really
RE: Bows
# Jan 16 2002 at 3:30 PM Rating: Default
Your observations and mine appear to be the same.. the kind of bow only changes the damage output and speed while arrow type changes diffrence and accuracy (and damage blunt bodkin and broadhead.. duh) If you want range stick to flight type arrows ( I actually use rough flights even though i missmore often do to the loss of acuracy I think it also effects damage slightly).

Speed to a kill Ok this is bassed off of blue and yellow Curms near Mag Mell-

Blue
Oaken Great Recurve- Dead at a stones throw.
Oaken Short Recurve- A little closer bit still far.

Yellow
Oaken Great Recurve- Dead at feet or a few paces away Sometimes a few melee hits.
Oaken short Recurve- Dead at feet or a little father off or a few melee hits (more than great Recurve bow).

needless to say both boys are good and I have not tried any with the Reg Recurve. I hope this Info helps

Brate letsbrate@hotmail.com
Ranger
Igraine

P.S. also if you want my observations on Melee from skill 10 up to 14 ( i did not raise it after 10 to see what happened ) just drop me an email or reply asking for info.
RE: Bows
# Jan 27 2002 at 1:21 AM Rating: Default
Yeah I have had many interesting debates on this.

With a great bow your crits are higher each arrow does more damage but you get 1 or 2 less arrows off. In a perfect run where you hit everything it seems that the great bow is a little better off IMO. But if you miss a hit with a great bow it is much more dire than if you miss one hit with a shortbow. Also, arguably with your shortbow you get lower damage secondary critical hits, but you have 1 or 2 less arrows meaning fewer rolls to get a critical hit.

Ok put too much thought into this.
Ranger Abilities
# Jan 10 2002 at 3:39 PM Rating: Default
Max your bow of course. ( personally use a red bow because of the added dmg.)

I am going for 50 PF and 30 Stealth, why? because I can get realm pionts and items to boost my stealth past 30 but if you do that for PF you don't get any more spells.

Right now I'm a lvl 20 Ranger, without having my buffs on a yellow gale brings me to around 1/2 life. With my buffs it doesn't make it to me. I did 10 Gales with and 10 gales without buffs and it seemed that the buffs added around 20-30 more dmg on crit shot and 10-15 on a normal shot.

I WANT to have high stealth but I think the buffs will help more. 40 PF 40 Stealth would be good but, I deceided to go 50 PF because I can use items to bring up my stealth.

Let me say this: THIS ISN'T HOW YOU SHOULD MAKE YOUR RANGER! This is my opinion on what would make my ranger the best ranger she can be. (females have a slimmer model and if your going lukriden why not go all the way small :))
So this isn't a post about what you should make your Ranger, but some people asked for opinions on what others think is important. Stealth is important, but your don't stealthed most of the time. I see it as a useful tool, and a tool that does show as much direct benifit from 30-50 as PF does 30-50. Plus stealth can be boosted with items and realm ranks.


http://daoc.catacombs.com/cbuilder.cfm shows that there are 10 crits spanning 30 lvls GREAT tool for working out a charather plan. Even does half lvls after lvl 40.
RE: Ranger Abilities
# Jan 27 2002 at 1:26 AM Rating: Default
I like your absurdly high PF. Doing the same tho many Frown upon it. You might be able to go down to 48 in PF to free some points if you dont mind losing the last str buff.
RE: Ranger Abilities
# Jan 27 2002 at 1:25 AM Rating: Default
Oh, and DAOC builder is incorrect. Max crit level is 9 and you get it at level 27. I know this from my character and have confirmed.
RE: Ranger Abilities
# Jan 27 2002 at 1:23 AM Rating: Default
Why Max bow of course? No new critcal levels beyond 27. From what I understand damage is capped each level so that having greater than your level (with item/rvr buffs) is no benefit.
RE: Ranger Abilities
# Feb 20 2002 at 11:40 AM Rating: Default
I think there is somthing you are all missing about bow skill. OF COURSE YOU NEED TO MAX IT OUT! For one damage is directly proportional to your skill. The higher your skill the more damage you do. This is why dex is so important to a ranger. Dex actually increases our bow skill. Get a dex buff from a high lvl caster some time and check your bow skill out. Second and nearly as important is the fact that how often you miss is directly proportional to your skill as well. Im sure many of you know that if you miss a crit your often in deep crap. Oh and to back up what some others have said there is only crit shot IX and you get it at 27. I am lvl 37 and do not have X. As for my opinions on race... lurikeen is only choice IMHO (unfortunatly when i made mine I made an Elf, which is second best choice) Lurikeen have the two most important things to an archer Dex and Quick. Also they make awesome stealthers because they are so darn small. Thats my two cents
weirdo stats on bows
# Jan 09 2002 at 3:35 AM Rating: Default
I am playing European beta now, great bows have exactly same stats as some small bows (speed and dmg both). :)

The great ones usually just cost only 30x the amount of the small bows. The stats lie or beta is somehow bugged? :o
RE: weirdo stats on bows
# Jan 17 2002 at 1:58 PM Rating: Decent
2 posts
More than likely bugged. There should be speed and damage differences between each type of bow made out of the same kind of materials (such as between elm short, regular, and great recurve).
Brate
# Jan 08 2002 at 2:23 PM Rating: Default
At 12 most blues die before reaching me and Yellows take a little melee. this is using flight broad head arrows. All my Equipment is store bought, so I am not getting the full effect (so I have read)

Equip

Great Elm Recurve
Flight and Reg Braod Heads
Orange armour

One thing I have noticed is diffrent levels withing color flags (con as DAoC peeps like to call it) therecan be a hard to kill yellow and an easy to kill yellow. this all just depends on the strengths and weaknesses of the target.

ok now for a question. I have kept my Bow skill even with my lvl and have put some skill into CD If i stop now and focus on my main 3 Bow Steath and PF will i be able to save my Ranger or is it screwed?

Brate
Ranger
Igrain
RE: Brate
# Jun 02 2002 at 4:01 AM Rating: Default
I'm currently level 17.

Bow: 14
Path: 13
CD: 10
Stealth: 1
Pierce: 10

(the stats may be off some, but that's pretty close)

The Idea here is that:
a) I'm a Lurikeen Ranger, thus.. Piercing weapons > Blade due to my 125 Dex and Quickness (after buffs).
b) I rarely use "styles" save for taunting / detaunting simply because styles are too slow. I do MORE damage NOT doing styles simply because I attack so fast (high Dex/Quick + low Weapon Speed)
c) Pathfinding is an absolute must, at least for low-level Rangers. PF helps with buffs (Str buff is vital if you're a lurkeen). Combine the damage add buff + CD + fast attack speed and it adds up fast.

My plan to level 21 is to fully spec out Bow, with a few extra points that I have, I'll reach 21-bow at level 21 (Crit Shot).

Plan after this is to pour points into pathfinding every 5 levels or so (keep PF at about 1/2 my level.

Stealth doesn't come into play untill later levels and I'll probably pour a level or 2 of points (about 90-95 points) into it around level 23/24.

From there on in, it's basicly going to be:
1) Bow - 80% of level
2) Pathfinding - 40% of level
3) Stealth (eventually) - 70% of level

To any low-level people or people thinking about making a ranger: IMO a well-rounded Ranger will suit you just fine from levels 0-20 (and will probably do you better then level-specing something). The Ranger is a pretty versitle character in PvE, it's only when you hit RvR or PvP where you really need to consider your priorities.

Just my 2c. :)
Rangers in General
# Jan 07 2002 at 8:19 AM Rating: Default
There is Level IX which is the last one as I understand. and listen folks. in order to be happy with your Ranger's, sure you can get good info, but all rangers end up mostly the same in the end, Bows maxed , stealethed close to max, Piercing aznd blades pretty much equal, cause even tho daggers are faster, there are some darn nice swords out there which = in dmg and bonuses later on in levels. Just feel comfortable with your Ranger. At 36 I stopped all skills except Stealth, I now dimp all into it, intill i have it maxed that is. But this is my Ranger, so I know where i like my skills at, RvR for me stealth is my key. Yours may be different, who knows. Just play the Ranger you like to play, By level 25, u can actually decide where u want to start leaning hvy on , but I say 30, cause 30 is excellant RVR level
RE: Rangers in General
# Mar 18 2002 at 8:44 PM Rating: Default
what do u all mean by blades i understand that pericing is wit that small like dager but what is blades ????


Eimhactaine
lvl 7
galah server
<halo>
Rangers in General
# Jan 07 2002 at 8:19 AM Rating: Default
There is Level IX which is the last one as I understand. and listen folks. in order to be happy with your Ranger's, sure you can get good info, but all rangers end up mostly the same in the end, Bows maxed , stealethed close to max, Piercing aznd blades pretty much equal, cause even tho daggers are faster, there are some darn nice swords out there which = in dmg and bonuses later on in levels. Just feel comfortable with your Ranger. At 36 I stopped all skills except Stealth, I now dimp all into it, intill i have it maxed that is. But this is my Ranger, so I know where i like my skills at, RvR for me stealth is my key. Yours may be different, who knows. Just play the Ranger you like to play, By level 25, u can actually decide where u want to start leaning hvy on , but I say 30, cause 30 is excellant RVR level
Rezalacc
# Jan 06 2002 at 1:34 PM Rating: Default
I was wondering, I am level 11 and have 11 recurve, and I still only have crit shot level 1, is that bad or do I have to raise something else in order to get crit shot 2? :\
questions need help please
# Jan 02 2002 at 5:15 PM Rating: Default
hi all, i have a few question:

1) i am a level 8 ranger and i just got my crit hit II but i am using a recurved bow, and as i am reading down this page i here that people get bows for free, and would like to know where about do i get them from?

2) stealth is it worth it? i have 4 point on it so far but i dont see much use for it later in the game, do u think it will be useful?

3) the distance i shot it crap, i am using normal arrows ( the ones u get free lol - training in weapon making :) and i can get 1 crit hit in with 1 normal shot before it reached me, how can i do more damg or longer distance? ( dont say buy new arrowws for damg, i know that :)
RE: questions need help please
# Jan 14 2002 at 10:02 AM Rating: Default
i recommend investing some time and money in fletching, very usful and cheaper than buying the arrows all the time.
RE: questions need help please
# Jan 07 2002 at 7:52 AM Rating: Default
Get better arrows. They cost, but they are worth it. I prefer the longest, most accurate arrows. The longer it takes for them to get to me, the better. Really though, its an RP choice. If you think more is better, thats ok. Works just as well.
RE: questions need help please
# Jan 03 2002 at 11:10 AM Rating: Default
ok thx, i check and my bow lev is at 6 to nearly 3 lvl below me as i am about to get lvl 9, yet my stealth is at 4 and pathfindig at 5, my meele attack is at 5/6 because that is wat i mainly use since i can take 2/1 crit hit before they get to me and 1/4 of there life is down, but i'l get some arrows. but what skill should i train in? for sure it has to be bowing, then path or stealth?
RE: questions need help please
# Jan 03 2002 at 10:44 AM Rating: Decent
3 posts
keep you Recurv bow skil maxed to your level at all times you must also get yer stelth up as well when you start RVR you can become a good sniper with stelth and i would recome getting for arrows

A) Footed flight boardhead
b) Footed broad head

at later levels when you can afford to buy then in bulk and i would inves as a ranger to get the fletching skill up as well

reason i choos broadhead is they do most damage i can useual solo an oranger / yello easaly and can kill them befor they are even 10 paces infront of me
____________________________
The hiden Archer
RE: questions need help please
# Jan 03 2002 at 9:37 AM Rating: Default
IMO:

If you want a decent bow you are going to have to pay for it or have nice friends. You can get arrows for free as you mentioned but they are free for a reason as well.. they are inferior.

Stealth will be very important when you want to RvR or if you want to do any dungeon crawling. It does help you get places but not crucial untill RvR.

I hate to say it but "buy new arrows". Damage isnt the only improvement you get from store bought arrows. Look at the stats and get the longest distance arrows you can afford.
DEX
# Dec 24 2001 at 2:42 PM Rating: Default
when possible always try and get your DEX maxed with items for the level, im a lvl 36 ranger and i can solo blues/yellows with no problem (i get bored so pull out my hand to hand weapons, Crescent Reaver + Rapier Of the Forsaken to break the monotony of stuff dying before it gets to me). but dex is our main stat it dictates how hard we hit and how fast our bow is, currently i run at 184 dex (/w buff) all the time solo and puts my crit at 4.6s and reg shot at 3.6s, usually when grouped dex is runnin round 242 my crit goes down to 3.9 and reg shot bout the same still. Right now i can solo pookas (basar area) with no difficulties... i truly believe in that stats are more important then af or armor, i am stiill wearing some green stuff just because of the stat bonuses happy huntin everyone
RE: DEX
# Dec 30 2001 at 12:20 AM Rating: Default
At 23 my Ranger's DEX is 171 and Quickness is 164 (which is max Dex and Qui for level 23 btw) both self buffed. Crit shot is 4.4 sec and regular 3.4, indeed it is quickness that lowers delay.

I have 26 Recurve(+3 from the bow I use - Siabran Recurve from the Seeking Glory Quest), 20 Pathfinding, 13 Stealth (gotta build this soon I know..and +4 Stealth is from items already), 2 piercing and 2 Celtic Dual.

IMO a ranger does damage with their bow and training piercing and/or Celtic Dual is a waste of time. This has been confirmed somewhat by a level 43 Ranger in my guild who wishes they had back the points they *wasted* on these skills, their words not mine :)

1) Always wear Yellow or Orange Armor

2) Always use Yellow or Orange Weapons (Bow especially and yellow is better)

3) NEVER buy weapons or armor from a merchant, ALWAYS buy player made because the quality is MUCH better and it's usually cheaper also.

3a) If you buy from a merchant weapons are 85% quality. The DPS that is listed on the weapon is what the DPS *would be* if the weapon was 100% quality. Quality makes a HUGE difference, especially in bows.

3b) The same holds true for armors, the only exception here is that some dropped armors add stats and player made does not(yet). This will change when Spellcraft is put into the game. Anyways, player made armors add more AF than any dropped armors. Most dropped armor is 89% quality (or less) and as such does not add the AF that is listed for it. Quest armors (and weapons) are the best of all because they are usually 100% quality and usually have stat bonuses as well, so don't ignore quests.

4) Always use Flight Broadhead arrows (footed if you can afford them).

With the above combinations at 23 I can still solo orange mobs (not all, certain types of mobs though, especially slower animal mobs that are weak to Arrows like bears, wolves and other mobs like tree types) a good percentage of the time, most yellows don't touch me and a blue is dead 20 paces from me. Sure I get misses and fumbles but thats what sprint and your run spell are for :)

It's all about having the right gear, weapons and ammo and selecting the appropriate mobs to kill. Hope this helps.
RE: DEX
# Dec 27 2001 at 2:54 PM Rating: Default
Not flamin' here but get your facts straight. Dex in the equation = max dmg.
Quickness = delay

Quickness judges the delay of your bow. Dexterity is used for Dmg.

Don't believe me? Get a Celt and a Lurikeen. Put all of your points into Str or some other attribute. (Int, Emp) Get them to 5 and look at the difference in their delays. Celt will have about a 9.? delay while the Lurikeen will have a 8.? Don't remember the exact amount but I did experiment.
Killing Yellows
# Dec 24 2001 at 12:03 PM Rating: Decent
I have read several posts from various rangers talking about being, or not being, able to kill yellow con mobs as a ranger. I play a Hibbie ranger that is currently level 14 on the Kay server. The follow is my take on killing yellow con mobs.

There are several factors that a ranger must take into consideration.

1. Your bow: Short, regular or great recurve? The short recurve does considerably less damage, but it has an equitably greater rate of fire (about 1/3 faster) than a great recurve. The regular bow is sorta analogous to the "human" character variety... average at everything with no outstanding abilities or penalties. The great recurve? Slow, but hits *hard*. I personally favor the great recurve. Some people use two bows... the great recurve for that first crit shot and then rapidly switch to a short for the followup shots. Naturally, you should be sure to use a bow that cons yellow to oranger to you. If you let it get blue or worse, your damage output will be entirely insufficient for anything tougher than greens.

2. Your arrows: this is a no-brainer! Use flight broadheads (footed if you can afford it)! The vast majority of your enemies during PvE will not be of the armor wearing variety. You may want to consider the Bodkins for RvR later on... (Me, I'm going to stalk the thin-skinned, creamy center casters! :) ) Also, try to be at extreme range when taking that first crit shot (DOH!).

3. The intended target: The mob you attack can make a big difference. There are yellow con mobs that run *fast* and that have a *high* damage rate(anger sprites come to mind). What does this mean? It means you will be more likely to end up in melee with this guy than say, a fishing bear forager. Learn your enemy and attack those that run slowly and attack slowly! You'll live longer!

4. Your buffs: Train sufficiently in Pathfinding in order to have all the buffs. They *do* make a big difference. Both in long range killing and melee. That little extra magic damage each time you strike with your bow and stiletto(s) can make the difference between life and death in a close fight. Not to mention that extra attack or three you get because your quickness is buffed to 129, or all those misses the mob commits in melee because your dexterity is buffed to 125 or so!!!

5. Your armor: Always try to wear the best quality armor for your level. This means that it cons no less than yellow and no more than orange. Also, be aware that AF is *not* the only thing to consider when purchasing armor. The "absorption" percentage is also very important. Buy the armor with the highest absorption percentage you can afford for a given AF. You will be amazed at how much *less* damage you will take.

Naturally, after doing everything right, you will run into missed shots (crits and otherwise), fumbles and such. My best advice about this is: If you miss your crit on a tough yellow con mob, it's time to do your best "Jesse Owens" impression and RUN! You should be at full stamina and so USE it to fight again without that costly trip to the healer!

Thats my 2 coppers worth!
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Immolatius
Napalm, morning... yada, yada
RE: Killing Yellows
# Mar 26 2002 at 9:47 AM Rating: Default
That is what I call great tips for rangers!

vildauget
na fianna
excalibur / Europe
Ranger Skills
# Dec 20 2001 at 12:02 AM Rating: Default
I was wondering if puting most of my skills into Recurve Stealth and Pathfinding was a good idea
Also, should i become a fletcher?
Should i leave out meele stuff too?

Thanks =)

RE: Ranger Skills
# Jan 04 2002 at 3:52 AM Rating: Default
Recurve should be maxed (ie ur lvl always), Celtic Dual second, Stealth 3rd, and Pathfinding 4th
RE: Ranger Skills
# Jan 04 2002 at 10:06 PM Rating: Default
Where did you get Celtic Dual being second? Rangers are not a melee class and will never be one. Celtic Dual does not affect the damage you do while dual wielding, it only gives you more styles.

The rest you have right. Recurve first, Sealth second, and Pathfinding third.

Smidgen
30th Ranger
RE: Ranger Skills
# Jan 14 2002 at 10:15 AM Rating: Default
well what ive HEARD is that its recurve first, pf second and stealth third. the reasons are that pf you would use most regularly but with stealth you would only use for high lvl RvR sniping.
Ranger Skills
# Dec 19 2001 at 3:57 PM Rating: Default
Should i put my skills into Recurve and crit more than the meeles?
RE: Ranger Skills
# Jan 14 2002 at 10:15 AM Rating: Default
of cource
bow+ownage= BOWNAGE
# Dec 18 2001 at 12:42 PM Rating: Default
rangers rock i have played one for about 3 hrs and got to lvl 6 and i can't wiate to smoke a group of middie on the tristan serve. . mmmmm i can taste it . . "where is he" . . . you have ben hit with a bow for 468damage "a trolls corpse lies on the ground 500 feet away from you" "where is he" "a kobold has just be waxed and it bleedin on the grass 600 feet infront of you. . . need i say more?
RE: bow+ownage= BOWNAGE
# Dec 18 2001 at 11:49 PM Rating: Default
Mythic is changing it so people can tell the direction the shot came from because the arrow sticks out of em for a minute, they can turn towards the archer.

Archers are way too powerful in RvR because of problems like this, and Mythic is toning em down a bit.

Don't expect your Bownage to last much longer, friend.
switching weap's fast
# Dec 18 2001 at 12:50 AM Rating: Default
im a lvl 14 ranger and i have run across a problem with using two pierces at once. when i hit the hotkey for my melee weapon after firing with my bow i cant get both melee weapons into my hands. i pull out one piercer but i have to manually put the other in the left hand slot? any ideas or is it just bugged? p.s. my ranger suprisingly deals out the most damage in melee situations while in groups. rangers rock with two weapons up close(just need a healer keepin you alive lol).

Kaalith Kincutter
lvl 14 ranger, Percival
RE: switching weap's fast
# Jan 02 2002 at 2:56 PM Rating: Default
i'm only a new lvl 6, so bear with me, but I had the same problem using a weapon and shield once the target had closed with me. I just dragged my shield onto my quickbar along with my weapon and hit both keys. maybe you can do the same with your second weapon.
RE: switching weap's fast
# Jan 14 2002 at 10:18 AM Rating: Default
same concept...just put the second weapon as a hot key and hit them both in melee
Miniman
# Dec 12 2001 at 4:59 AM Rating: Default
I have a druid lvl 25 and its a good solo class but i heard some saying that rangers cant solo... I just wanner say GET YOUR FLETCHING tradeskill UP FAST i made a yellow bow dps 4.1 spd 4.0 but best of all was the Qualty 98% and i can only say IT ROX..... im killing yellow whit out problems now lvl FAST ;o) so the words here must be TRADESKILL UP FAST, you make ALOT better bows that way im using arrows Broadhead becurse i dont need the lathe and i bring som flight broadhead whit me.... GO GET EM TIGER.......

Miniman from KAY
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# Dec 09 2001 at 7:25 AM Rating: Default
hi
im lvl 17 ranger who tries to kill yellow parths.thing is , i die to 9 out of 10 parths..
my gear is
bright orange bow , no idea what kind
two dolomite stilletos -yellow
blue/yellow armor
RE: lvl 25 ranger@merlin
# Mar 04 2002 at 4:05 AM Rating: Default
dude first of all u need good arrows. id get footed broads as a minimum. second get an orange great recurve (player made preferably). third get orange armor-yellow armor and weapons. fourth parths are too slow for ur lvl, they give u disease and sometimes it can be risky. try curms or even ghostly siabras theyre ezier.

good hunting
Rangers Neved
# Dec 08 2001 at 5:09 AM Rating: Default
its kinda funny no one here has said anything about the rangers crit shot being nurfed
Armor-wearing
# Dec 07 2001 at 9:16 AM Rating: Default
I have a LvL 10 Ranger on Merlin and have armour wich is red to me.
Does that mean, that i cannot use it in full effect or what ??
RE: Armor-wearing
# Dec 09 2001 at 7:42 PM Rating: Decent
Scholar
46 posts
i believe you will wear your armor out faster if it is higher lvl armor. keep and eye on its con and go to the smith frequently.
Vertigo
# Dec 06 2001 at 7:07 AM Rating: Default
I have solo'd my way to lvl 26 as of 10 minutes ago. I found that as a ranger i can level faster solo then in a group. Some days i make it without dieing once.. course now and then i have a real bad day, but solo is safer. Death to a solo'r is more painful though.

Yellows rarely make it close enough to hit me once. Now and then they go down in 3 shots. Blues never make it within 20 feet of me. Unless i miss crit shot and fumble, but since im not a melee'r i just take a short job and do a circle and crit the mob right when it stops chasing me. Rarely does that situation happen though.

here are my stats and gear:

Elf
str 51
con 55
(only 2 stats i modified on creation)

26 - recurve
16 - pathfinding
16 - stealth (didnt bother raising stealth till path was at 16)
10 piercing (for detaunt move)
1 blades
1 celtic dual (why do i need this if nothing can get close enough for me to use it when im level 50?)

gear:

Great Heartwood Recurve Bow
Flight Broadhead Arrows


the deal is... if you want to solo as a ranger, you MUST have flight broadheads! You shouldnt let anything get close enough to you to need your dagger. Anything that gets that close usually takes 1 hit from my dagger, because i want to save an arrow. Rangers kill with their bow, thats what makes us deadly... if something gets that close, run a bit turn around and fire your bow. if your using flight broadheads and a yellow makes it to you with 1/4th its life... you need to find a lower level yellow, or a yellow that isnt so resistant to that type of damage.

just remember -

how often will i need my dual wield at lvl 50?
I use my dagger maybe once for every 10 creatures i kill... if that...
Specialisation.
# Dec 01 2001 at 10:57 AM Rating: Default
Okay ive Heard alot of stuff about what to do with skill points. Ive read so much stuff I wanna sort out the crap from the good stuff. Here is waht I have heard :

1. Skill points a added automatically (from thin air?) to you bow and stealth if you do not spend any points into these when you train at every so and so level.

I wanna know -

a) At What level are these awarded?
b) Does it subtract from the normal points given?
c) Does this also happen to pierce/blades etc


2. The Skills are very broad. People have alot of opionins. What I gather and can agree on is :

Bow skill must be maxed to 50.
Stealth must be minimum 16 to be useful.

So what i Need to know is :

a) what do the other skills do?
b) What do those skills rely on?
c) what advantages would you have in spec in one skill?
d) Does pierceing improve bow damage? (arrows pierce i.m.h.o. but maybe mythic thinks they dont.)

If anyone can answer these questions im sure you will help many many many rangers out there.

Thanks.

I do aim to use a Ranger for the following b.t.w.

RVR , Grouping and Solo... hehe

Can anyone Help me??

=)



RE: Specialisation.
# Dec 21 2001 at 3:06 AM Rating: Decent
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only 1 comment... arrows may pierce... if that kind of point/head, but entirely different from pierce skill which uses piercing types of melee weapons... not at all the same type of skill to use as a bow, where the skill is same, though the damage is different depending on head... broadheads cause slashing cutting damage.. ask a bow hunter... but, not so good against armor.. especially chain and plate designed to stop such.. hence the bodkin, or pointed arrow designed to pierce such armor, but not as damaging to the person wearing it as smaller wound and doesn't cut blood vessels most as much, so pierce skill should and does (to my knowledge) have nothing to do with damage you do with your bow
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