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Ranger specc
# Jul 28 2003 at 4:29 PM Rating: Decent
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Okay, I have a lvl 16 ranger.. max in bow and 10 pierc and CD and 7 Path. I know it's a little stupid but it's easy to change.. Okay, if you have max in bow you don't have to melee as much - smart, huh? And Pierc is dex and strenght, blades are 100% strenght. Only if you have more strenght go for blades but I don't care, max your bow and you'll never have to melee so you shouldn't max your pierc/slash/CD but still, it's nice to have a light tank on the team ;-)
Just my opinion, hope you can use it ;-)
Btw, my ranger is a Celt and he maybe do better in melee than elves/lurikeen because of his strenght

Edited, Mon Jul 28 17:59:45 2003
Ranger spec
# Jul 01 2003 at 4:54 AM Rating: Excellent
34 posts
Lots of people have posted some good, some bad, I now want to post my opinion.. first off, I don't know it all, and if you don't agree with me, don't listen.

Bow- Your bow is your bread and butter, if you dont use it, chances are you won't succeed. If you don't want to use a bow, perhaps ranger isn't your style. Personally I keep mine maxed, and plan to take it to 50. However, I can see logic in only taking it to 39, then maxing it with items, if you plan to do this, keep your bow maxed until 39th level, since it is absolutly vital to your success.

Blades/Piercers- Which you pick is not big deal, its playstyle, the choice between blades and piercers is NOT a life altering one, simply pick one, and go with it. Blades do more avg. dmg, piercers are faster. Blades get bonus damage more often in pve (in my experience) piercers get bonus damage more often in rvr. Piercers styles are better in my personal opinion, however yours may not be the same.

Celtic Dual- I went with 10 cd myself, some say it makes a BIG diff, some say it makes no diff, I hardly melee so I'm not missing out on too much. I don't know all the hard core facts, but I wouldn't burn valuable points on it unless you know something I don't.

Stealth- If you want to RVR get some, if not, don't. I don't personally see any logical reason for going over 20ish, however I have 20 myself and find it quite useful. The extra speed and the ability to be able to move away from people moving toward me without being seen is well worth the points to me.

Pathfinding- Your self buffs are your advantage over the other archer classes, they are an awesome help especially if you solo a lot, which you will most likely as a ranger as we aren't one of the most desirable classes in a group and I, myself, tend to gain much more exp in an alloted time solo. I'd say spec a good bit into this pre-20 then around 20ish slack off it and get some stealth. The buff's do a LOT of good in lower levels, and will always be well worth the points.

Race- This one ****** me off somethin fierce, I myself am an Elf. My elven ranger has absolutly no trouble doing anything I've ever seen a luri/celt do. These people out here who say Elf rangers are gimps, shove it up your ****!

Your race IS NOT and I repeat IS NOT a make or break decision, no matter what class you are, what race you choose WILL not destroy or godlify (yes I made that word up) your character. You may be at a small advantage/disadvantage, but it's not something to ruin your day.

I know it was long, thanks for listenin, flame away if you must, these are my opinions and ideas and there isn't much you can say to change them.
RE: Ranger spec
# Nov 02 2004 at 11:17 AM Rating: Decent
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I would have to agree with you I have a lvl 35 Elf Ranger and have no problem lvling or RvR'ing with him. I also have a Luri ranger at the 13th lvl and find very little difference in the two. My elf i choose to use blades and have had very little problem lvling even with a low str. stat. My luri i have decided to peirce and know he will turn out to be a fabuolus ranger. I would not suggest a sheild for in any Ranger, might as well hold a large mirror and flash it in the eyes of all your enemies. Just my thoughts take it or leave it.
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RE: Ranger spec
# Jul 29 2003 at 5:08 AM Rating: Decent
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I agree with a lot of what you say, and to add on the pierce/blade thing, I find that pierce styles are better, but if you are using a shield and no CD, a lot of blades styles are 'block' dependant or chain of 'block' styles, so if you are going with a shield maybe consider blades...

Again played both elf and luri ranger, the only 'small' difference is that it's sometimes harder to select a luri due to size, but if you're running away :p or half a mile away plinking off arrows, then it hardly matters...

My lvl30 Ranger is one of my alts, so thx for your POV, it all adds to the melting pot... :)


Anegale BloodRayne
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Edited, Tue Jul 29 06:00:42 2003
Rangers
# May 31 2003 at 8:28 AM Rating: Default
okay numskull with the attudide EQ SUCKS!!!! no one cares about you in eq its every man for himself as well as in midgard and if you think rangers stink and your concerned about tanking then play midgard i bet your get your @%% kicked an \d i hope you do btw ranger arent spouss to have to tank you moran!!@ they are spouss to be trained as snipers so that you kill mobs bfore they reach you plus a broadswoard and a falcata kick 2 stillitos @$$es any day also if you read the page after you create your chacter lurks are MEDIOCRE rangers and celt/elves are average so hummm should get called mediocre?? or AVREREAGE!!!!!!!!


:-P Will Cassell
50 Celt Ranger
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RE: Rangers
# Jun 09 2003 at 8:56 PM Rating: Default
Holy run on sentences, Batman!
RE: Rangers
# May 21 2004 at 7:44 PM Rating: Decent
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LOL
Capping Recurve
# May 24 2003 at 1:21 PM Rating: Default
Ok, I have a question. Is there a point to pracing Recurve to 50, over pracing it to 35 and Spell Crafting, etc, the skill up to 50? I know there are reasons with Spells and Styles, but why with Recurve?
Race
# Mar 03 2003 at 12:43 PM Rating: Decent
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Which race should i pick to be a ranger?
Ok ok
# Oct 07 2002 at 11:45 PM Rating: Default
Please guys, ok i will admit a ranger sux soloing in a RVR (i havnt killed one person solo yet)if you spec it right tho, like have stealth up, then you will have more sucess then i have. But with a grp, i rock, it helps to have someone watching my back and when the meelees are fighting and dieing and complaining for a res, im there, crit shooting away. Im lvl 21 and crit shot someone for 200 hps, needless to say, he went the other way pretty quick. In a PvE im ok i just do kill tasks and im good. Rangers are easy to an extent, but also require time and effort. It just all goes down to how you spec.

Talwei Underforg
21 Ranger
Hibernia, merlin
RE: Ok ok
# Jun 17 2003 at 2:34 PM Rating: Default
im pretty good RvR. im at L-23 and i can kill pretty much any yellow or blue caster in one hit. im bow spec if u didnt know. but i think rangers are pretty good soloing, although of course i would rather have a healer behind me for when the stealthers decide to poison me or so... just wanted to add my two cents
Rangertank
# Aug 27 2002 at 1:17 PM Rating: Default
Celt ranger is an alternative choice, put 10 in str/con/qui.
Celt ranger at lvl24: blade 21 bow 23 path 12
Stealth is next to usless because assasain classes will always see you before you see them, this way you can kill them *AFTER* they CS you, I know, I have done it many times to both shadowblades and infiltrators :) This way you can deal damage at range and in melee.
Nightbreed
# Jul 16 2002 at 2:54 PM Rating: Default
I'm a lvl 32 Ranger Elf, my recurve is at 29 or 30. Is 30 the max or can I still train in it. I was told crit Shot IX is the highest. Anyone know?
Also I have been puting alot in stealth now that my recurve is pretty high, anyone have any suggestions?
#Anonymous, Posted: Jun 03 2002 at 12:01 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) plz give it up rangers r too gimp to play and survive in rvr.they r the most gimped class after nerfs.i feel sory for all u ppl who still plays any archer type.
RE: nerfhater
# Sep 01 2002 at 4:31 AM Rating: Default
ohh... thats why my lvl 46 ranger killed a lvl 50 armsman ! yep they must be realy gimped ! LOL
Elven Elven Ranger kicking hiney...
# May 09 2002 at 9:35 AM Rating: Default
To all those nimrods out there who preach that Elven Ranger is a poor template, Let me illuminate you. I chose this class because for my money, I want to find challenge in the game, and all the negative press re: Elf/Ranger weaknesses helped me decide this was the choice for me. If I wanted a cakewalk I'd play the kids' playstation and load up on cheat codes. I just reached lvl 17, with no grouping, and am easily dropping oranges now, with minimum melee, and less than 25% loss in hp's. Of course this occurs only after succesful critical hit, and successful secondary shot, otherwise I run like ****. I never use blades, as the % to hit/speed is greater with dual wield and piercing styles, plus there are more bonus enhancing items for the ranger in these skill areas. To all hibernian enemies who hate my sneaky & shady kind, just know that I'm coming for you, and death is coming with me.

He who walks with the shadows
Elven ranger blow big time!
# May 11 2002 at 10:15 AM Rating: Default
Still not illuminated. Why did you choose an elven ranger, makes no sense at all. Elves are gimped lurikeens if we talk about rangers, nothing else. There is really nothing to discuss here. If you have such an easy time soloing oranges, it would be even more easy being a lurk. You cant think the mobs to death you know. Elves take 5 points from dex and quick and put em into int which does nothing N O T H I N G fora a ranger. And blades... the reason you dont use blades is just as simple, you do MORE dmg with piercing since damage is based on both dex and str instead of str only which is the case with blades. The chance to hit is based on you dex, not you weapon.

Someone a bit more illuminated

Read the guide on the ranger main page...
RE: Elven ranger blow big time!
# Aug 15 2002 at 2:20 PM Rating: Default
I've said this before on other pages, but some of you just don't get it. It isn't about the class, the race, or the points. These can dampen effectivness, but aren't as important as who's behind the keys. YOU have to know how YOU'RE going to play a class and make it work for YOU. Besides, why are you so mad, anyway? If you're not, sorry, I'm wrong, but you seem ****** off at something. You just get killed by a Ranger or something. And one last thing, if you're so against archers, why don't you stop looking at their message boards?
RE: Elven ranger blow big time!
# Aug 01 2002 at 4:07 PM Rating: Decent
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Advice to Mr Anonymus. Take your additude and go play Everquest where fun is second to being "the best."

Not all of us are concerned with having the "best" race for a particular class, or even think there are "best" races for classes. I picked a Celtic ranger (which by your method would be the "worst" choice) and haven't had any abnormal problems, or someone from a real high-end guild come up and say "why did you pick that race?!" Sure I may not hit for quite as much damage as a half-pint under ideal conditions, but when things go sour I've can take a beating better than any lurikeen, and I can lug more arrows with me.
Best advice to anyone looking to play a particular race/class combination - forget what people say is the "best" race. Pick the race you want to play, put the starting points where you think they'll do the most good, and learn to play your class well. You'll get stat-enhancing equipment soon enough that levels the field, and you may just discover that you have some advantages of the guy that picks "the best" race doesn't have when you have to step outside of you tradition role.

Wrenwing Grousehawk
11 Ranger
Rendale Ravenfeather
54 EQ Ranger (retired and deleted)
RE: Elven ranger blow big time!
# Sep 15 2002 at 7:01 PM Rating: Default
word. i'm sick of people telling me what is best. if people paid attention then everyone would be playing the same races/classes that would be REALLY FUN eh? here's the bottom line....it's a game...YOUR game. play what YOU want and what YOU think is FUN. if you're not having fun even as some uber beyatch then what's the point?
follow up
# Apr 25 2002 at 1:52 PM Rating: Decent
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regarding the other post, i am not suggesting that assasin classes get nerfed. I respect the effort it takes to level an assassin class since groups rarely appreciate what an assasin can contribute to a non-RVR group. I think they should be highly rewarded for their efforts to level up. The same can be said though for archer classes when it comes to exp groups though. My position is archer classes' chances of hitting with a full crit should be at least close to the assassins backstab. I think we should be able to override bladeturn at least partially. Again this comes from a mind of only 25 seasons to date but i wanted to clarify my intentions of the other post.
crit shots
# Apr 25 2002 at 1:41 PM Rating: Decent
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just fishing for opinions here and correct me if i am wrong. Archers vs assasins. It seems that in rvr that an archers crit shot misses when an opponent has bladeturn on. I have been attacked by assasins with bladeturn on and it seems to overrride it. It seems that an assassins rarely if ever miss a backstab because stealth is too effective. Yet it seems all to frequent that my crit shot in my lvl 24 ranger with 24 recurve and a dex of 145 will miss all to frequently to evades, parries and the mid that was able to block completely 8 or so shots in a row with his shield the other night. i would think a recurve skill at my lvl and the highest lvl possible in the 20-24 bg would allow me to at least partially hit this norseman who conned yellow, but i am gettin away from the original subject. The archer's crit is to him/her as the assasin's backstab. no question since we are not tanks and do not have any other way to inflict damage to outweigh our limited hps. There seems to be an inequality to the effectiveness of our main damage dealers, not to mention an understood difference in stealth ability. Seems like tracking would level that field a bit but again i stray. Granted my highest lvl is 25 at this time and i have not shot a bow with a recurve skill at 50 yet. Does this inequality also exist at higher levels?
RvR
# Apr 20 2002 at 2:55 PM Rating: Default
I say ***** the meele skills and max Recurve and stealth for the best RvR Ranger.
RE: RvR
# Apr 25 2002 at 2:00 PM Rating: Default
i think low lvl melee skills help to get you through lower levels but agree they are pretty useless in rvr if you are an archer class with the exception of the Mid hunter class which has formidable melee ability. Hibs and albs archer classes rarely last more than seconds in melee confrontations because of their low hp. you are better off not to be seen and to strike from afar.
Quests
# Apr 14 2002 at 11:51 AM Rating: Default
If you want to learn about quests, goto

www.warcry.com and go under the DAOC quests search where you can limit quests to your class and lvl. thats how i found all the quests i can do up to lvl 50, i just keep printing them out and crossing them off as i do them

send me a tell if you're on!

Kelliy
Tristan Server
U.S.
spec points
# Apr 14 2002 at 11:49 AM Rating: Default
ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS keep bow at max!, after that pour some into pathfinding for the first couple buffs then the rest into stealth, Rangers are made for chucking arrows not tanking with swords, i say ***** them really, i can usually kill a yellow monster before it reaches me.

find me online! im willing to talk

Kelliy
Tristan server
U.S.
RE: spec points
# Sep 01 2002 at 4:38 AM Rating: Default
i sure do agree in ALWAYS put full bow... but i also think you should put some in CD and blades/pierce ! at lvl 46 witch i am now i did Stealth 41 blades 20 path 16 bow 46 and CD 12.
i was in combat with a armsman and he came close to me so i had to melee.... and i killed him thats why i think weapon spec is pretty important to. !

Deiliol
Lancelot
Best lvling places
# Apr 09 2002 at 3:22 PM Rating: Default
Im kinda new and I wouldm like to know where the best places for a lvl 9 ranger to lvl/ and or what and where are there quests i can do?
Critical shots
# Apr 07 2002 at 12:55 PM Rating: Default
What skill level do you get a new critical shot? im level 14 w/ recurve bow at 11 or 12 cant remember and i have Critical Shot IV
RE: Critical shots
# Apr 10 2002 at 11:22 AM Rating: Decent
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Critical shot comes in at these level of Recurve Bow training...

lvl 3 Critical Shot 1
lvl 6 Critical Shot 2
lvl 9 Critical Shot 3
lvl 12 Critical Shot 4
lvl 15 Critical Shot 5
lvl 18 Critical Shot 6
lvl 21 Critical Shot 7
lvl 24 Critical Shot 8
lvl 27 Critical Shot 9
Stealth
# Mar 30 2002 at 3:39 PM Rating: Default
Oh yeah, and its not really worth putting any points into stealth until you hit RvR. With the new low level battlegrounds in place, that means starting at 20.
RE: Stealth
# Sep 01 2002 at 4:42 AM Rating: Default
agreed... much easyer to solo w/o stealth spec :)
Speccing IMO
# Mar 30 2002 at 3:37 PM Rating: Default
Personaly, I keep Bow maxxed, Blades at 1/2, Pathfinding at a little over 1/2, and Celtic Dual at about 1/4. Blades is the best melee spec IMO even if you're a Elf or Lurikeen. Blades do more damage than Pierce overall, and there's more high level magical Blade weapons than there is with Pierce. The only issue with this is that Rangers only gain 1 point of Strength every 2-3 levels. And speccing in Celtic Dual DOES NOT increase your minimum and maximum damage you can do with your offhand weapon. It only raises the chance to hit with the ofhand by .5 %, you start with a 25% chance to hit and it raises .25% automatically per level. So if you want to do decent damage with both your main and offhand weapon, put points into either Blades or Piercing, whichever type of weapon you're using. And by the way, the Piercing and Blades styles are overall better than the Celtic Dual styles. Hope this helps some people.
RE: Speccing IMO
# May 23 2002 at 10:48 AM Rating: Default
it seems strange to me that you have points in blades AND celtic dual...thats just me bu i would put ur blade's points in dual ot dual's in blades just my opinion

RE: Speccing IMO
# Sep 01 2002 at 4:45 AM Rating: Default
CD is for duel weild and blades are for hitting faster... thats why you should put points in both
What do you think about my speccing?
# Mar 28 2002 at 5:53 PM Rating: Default
I personally max out my Recurve, keep Pathfinding and CD at half, and put the rest in stealth (taking it to more than half my level)... I put NO points in individual weapons, but I use piercing so as to get the DEX bonus to dmg...
help
# Mar 18 2002 at 8:45 PM Rating: Default
what do u all mean by blades i understand that pericing is wit that small like dager but what is blades ????


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RE: help
# Mar 20 2002 at 10:52 AM Rating: Decent
Blades, is like swords.
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RE: help
# Apr 25 2002 at 3:30 PM Rating: Default
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lol
RE: help
# May 14 2002 at 4:25 PM Rating: Default
He who laughs last, thinks slowest. =)
RE: help
# Jun 08 2002 at 11:08 PM Rating: Default
he who laughs last laughs longest
RE: help
# Aug 19 2002 at 6:34 PM Rating: Default
he who laughs last...gets da cookies!!
WTF
# Mar 14 2002 at 2:40 PM Rating: Default
okay im reading this and im trying to decide what class i wann be since im just buying the game..
WTF are you guys talking about Orange blue yellow
what the **** does that mean if your bow cons orange does that mean it could kick your @$$ i mean come on and speak english for some peeps who are newbs and jsut trying to decide what class to start you guys are not very helpful make me wanna be a differnt class...
RE: WTF
# Mar 17 2002 at 8:34 PM Rating: Default
yOU SHOULD READ THE MANUAL THEN SHOULDNT YOU? bUT ANYWAYS IF SAY A BOW WAS BLUE TO YOU THAT MEANS ITS LIKE EASY FOR YOUR CHARACTER TO USE, IF ITS YELLOW ITS EQUAL TO YOUR CHARACTER BUT WILL DEGRADE A TAD FAST, IF ITS ORANGE IT WILL DEGRADE PRETTY FAST AND BE A BIT TOUGH FOR YOU TOO USE,RED AND PURPLE WOULD BE TOO MUCH. GRAY IS TOO LOW AND GREEN ISNT GREAT.
RE: WTF
# Mar 20 2002 at 10:59 AM Rating: Decent
You should also note, items that are a higher color have better stats for that class of item. I usually like to have all orange items. Good stats + wont degrade as fast as red or purple. Colors go like this.
grey 3 lvls or more below u
green 2 lvls below u
blue 1 lvl below u
yellow = u
orange 1 lvl above u
red 2 lvls above u
purple 3 lvls or more above u.
This works for all conning. Not sure if they get more spread out at higher lvls. but up to 10 it works.
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RE: WTF
# Apr 28 2002 at 7:04 PM Rating: Default
Maybe ya shouldn't go swearing and cussing just because you don't understand the con system. You will still encounter the same probs with any other class.

Its not a hard system, read the manual or use yer head

Forget Styles, and forget the Myths
# Mar 07 2002 at 4:46 PM Rating: Good
I just wanted to clear a couple things up here.

Never choose your spec lvl for a skill simply for style ability. Bows are just like any other weapon when it comes down to the fact that your spec lvl affects your max dmg output. So stopping at 27-30 really hurts you in the long run. Also, the same holds true for CD/Pierce/slash. Though CD spec lvl affects the speed of your attacks.
Please keep this in mind as you are reading those spec lists and saying, "Oh.. nothing good comes after spec #x)

A couple other things to remember. Forget the items. I saw someone post that a person is crazy for taking anything other than slashing, due to the slash weapons in game. LOL that was funny. You can tell that came from soemone not thinking too hard on the subject. First of all, there are some pretty cool pierce weapons that you can find out there. (Like the ones that drop from Grannies.) Then look at the speed factor, and then last but not least.. pierce is the best weapon hands down against chain armor in RvR (and both albs and middies wear chain). Blunt's great for plate, and slash is the red headed step child for RvR;) Pierce even works better against those casters.

I'm not saying to base you char on what I said. I'm just pointing out what so many here overlook.
me
# Feb 20 2002 at 11:03 AM Rating: Default
heres me

Recurve : 6
Peircing : 2
Slashing : 5
stealth : 3
pathfinding : 2

I am lvl 7. should i reroll my character?
RE: me
# Mar 20 2002 at 11:07 AM Rating: Decent
No heheh. at lvl 7 your not a big deal if you put a few points into something u dont want. heres what my point distrubtion is going to look like at 50. stealth 20, blades 20, pathfinding 50, bow 40, celtic dual 10, and piercing 20, with about 8 more points to put in any of those. Is this good distrubtion?
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RE: me
# Sep 01 2002 at 4:57 AM Rating: Default
you stupid ? but pierce and blades and CD and if you only wonna do stealth 20.. the drop it ! and do stealth 0 its the same for lvl 50's and ALWAYS do full bow spec
bow 50 vs bow 30
# Feb 13 2002 at 11:10 AM Rating: Default
Okay if i have facts right u get Critical Hit X (10) at 30. There seems to be an agrument that maybe u should stop recurve then as no additional skills are possible. Now Volley And Long shot might come above 30 (but assuming they don't for now.) IS it worthwhile going to 50 on Bow. Presently i'm planning on going to almost 50... 46-50 somewhere in there.

Questions
1) What is your bow at?
2) What lvl r u?
3) How much dmg (pls u example) do u do at any lvl above 35 lets say on a yellow Conn and a blue conn?

Hopefully some older kin will post and show us that a) bow above 30 doesn not matter b) bow skill above 30 does matter.
RE: bow 50 vs bow 30
# Feb 13 2002 at 11:17 AM Rating: Default
okay i learned that Critical Hit IX is last one at 27. Same question still pends pls.
RE: bow 50 vs bow 30
# Sep 01 2002 at 5:01 AM Rating: Default

always bow 50 ! dosnt metter if you have X... if you spec it higher it will always get better... at lvl 46 i have bow 46 ! and i do almost 750 dmg on a lvl 50 caster ! im sure i wont with only bow 30. and another thing, you will hit more often with max bow :)
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