Classes: Thane
Buff (endurance reduction) - group endurance reduction buff.
Name Level Target Power Effect Duration Cast Time Range
Thor's Energy 11Group 10% 10% end reduc 20 min 3s 1500
Thor's Stamina 21Group 10% 15% end reduc 20 min 3s 1500
Thor's Persistence 31Group 10% 20% end reduc 20 min 3s 1500
Thor's Tenacity 41Group 10% 25% end reduc 20 min 3s 1500
Buff (pierce resist) - self-targeted resist pierce buff.
Name Level Target Power Effect Duration Cast Time
Mjollnir's Precision 10Self 5 1% pierce res 20 min 3s
Mjollnir's Accuracy 20Self 10 3% pierce res 20 min 3s
Mjollnir's Clarity 30Self 15 5% pierce res 20 min 3s
Mjollnir's Acuity 40Self 20 7% pierce res 20 min 3s
Mjollnir's Sagacity 50Self 25 10% pierce res 20 min 3s
Buff (Strength/Constitution) - Increases the target's Strength and Constitution, which will cause it to be able to carry more weight, as well as to both do more damage in melee combat and to be able to take more damage before dying.
Name Level Target Power Effect Duration Cast Time
Thor's Vigor 2Self 2 16 str/con 20 min 3s
Thor's Strength 7Self 5 22 str/con 20 min 3s
Thor's Power 14Self 9 31 str/con 20 min 3s
Thor's Might 20Self 12 39 str/con 20 min 3s
Thor's Vitality 30Self 19 51 str/con 20 min 3s
Thor's Fortification 41Self 26 63 str/con 20 min 3s
Thor's Potence 50Self 33 75 str/con 20 min 3s
Damage (AOE) - Target takes damage. Damage done is of the spell's given damage type. This is an "Area of Effect" (AOE) spell which can affect multiple targets in the spell's radius, and does less damage the further away targets are from the spell's center
Name Level Target Power Effect Cast Time Damage Damage Type Range Radius
Call Mjollnir 16Enemy 10 3.5s 60.00 Energy 1500 350
Invoke Mjollnir 22Enemy 13 3.5s 79.00 Energy 1500 350
Summon Mjollnir 35Enemy 22 3s 127.00 Energy 1600 350
Command Mjollnir 45Enemy 29 PBAE 4.5 dmg 3s 163.00 Energy 1600 400
Damage (Instant) - Target takes damage. Damage done is of the spell's given damage type. Spell can be cast during combat.
Name Level Target Power Recast Delay Damage Damage Type Range
Toothgrinder's Hoof 5Enemy 4 20s 19.00 Energy 1500
Toothgnasher's Hoof 8Enemy 5 20s 29.00 Energy 1500
Toothgrinder's Bite 10Enemy 6 20 35.00 Energy 1525
Toothgnasher's Bite 12Enemy 8 20s 40.00 Energy 1550
Toothgrinder's Horn 18Enemy 11 20s 61.00 Energy 1600
Toothgnasher's Horn 25Enemy 15 20s 83.00 Energy 1550
Toothgrinder's Ram 34Enemy 21 20s 111.00 Energy 1600
Toothgnasher's Ram 44Enemy 28 20s 143.00 Energy 1650
Damage (PBAOE, Instant) - Target takes damage. Damage done is of the spell's given damage type. Spell affects everyone in the immediate radius of the caster, and does less damage the further away they are from the caster.
Name Level Target Power Recast Delay Damage Damage Type Radius
Thunder Shout 5Enemy 4 20s 15.00 Energy 300
Greater Thunder Shout 8Enemy 5 20s 24.00 Energy 300
Thunder Howl 10Enemy 6 20s 27.00 Energy 300
Greater Thunder Howl 12Enemy 8 20s 32.00 Energy 300
Thunder Bellow 18Enemy 11 20s 49.00 Energy 300
Greater Thunder Bellow 25Enemy 15 20s 66.00 Energy 300
Thunder Roar 34Enemy 21 20s 89.00 Energy 300
Greater Thunder Roar 44Enemy 28 20s 114.00 Energy 300
Damage - Target takes damage. Damage done is of the spell's given damage type.
Name Level Target Power Effect Cast Time Damage Damage Type Range
Thor's Minor Bolt 1Enemy 2 Bonus: 4 3s 6.00 Energy 1500
Thor's Lesser Bolt 3Enemy 3 Bonus: 11 3s 14.00 Energy 1500
Thor's Bolt 6Enemy 4 Bonus: 22 3s 26.00 Energy 1525
Thor's Greater Bolt 9Enemy 6 2.8s 37.00 Energy 1550
Thor's Major Bolt 13Enemy 8 Bonus: 52 2.8s 52.00 Energy 1600
Thor's Minor Lightning 17Enemy 10 Bonus: 55 2.8s 67.00 Energy 1550
Thor's Lesser Lightning 23Enemy 14 Bonus: 73 2.6s 89.00 Energy 1600
Thor's Lightning 29Enemy 18 Bonus: 92 2.6s 112.00 Energy 1650
Thor's Greater Lightning 38Enemy 24 Bonus: 120 2.6s 146.00 Energy 1675
Thor's Full Lightning 48Enemy 31 Bonus: 176 2.4s 186.00 Energy 1700
Doom Hammer 50Enemy 200 DD 10s 0.00 Energy 1000
Damage Add - Target does more damage with every melee weapon hit.
Name Level Target Power Duration Cast Time Damage Damage Type
Thunder's Bash 4Self 3 20 min 3s 1.60 DPS Energy
Thunder's Hammer 11Self 7 20 min 3s 3.10 DPS Energy
Thunder's Force 15Self 9 20 min 3s 3.90 DPS Energy
Thunder's Crush 21Self 13 20 min 3s 5.20 DPS Energy
Thunder's Strike 27Self 17 20 min 3s 6.40 DPS Energy
Thunder's Blow 36Self 23 20 min 3s 8.40 DPS Energy
Thunder's Rend 46Self 30 20 min 3s 10.50 DPS Energy
Debuff Weapon Proc (Energy) - Self-only buff. Target resistance is lowered. Damage done is of the spell's given damage type.
Name Level Target Power Effect Duration Cast Time Damage Type Range
Dissipating Blows 17Self 12 3% Energy debuff 20 min 3s Energy 500
Routing Blows 23Self 16 6% Energy debuff 20 min 3s Energy 500
Sundering Blows 36Self 25 9% Energy debuff 20 min 3s Energy 500
Banishing Blows 47Self 32 12% Energy debuff 20 min 3s Energy 500
Ranged AOE Debuff - Target resistance is lowered. Damage done is of the spell's given damage type.
Name Level Target Power Effect Duration Cast Time Damage Type Range Radius
Dissipate Energy 14Enemy 10 3% Energy Debuff 10s 3s Energy 1500 350
Rout Energy 20Enemy 13 6% Energy debuff 10s 3s Energy 1500 350
Sunder Energy 33Enemy 22 9% Energy debuff 10s 3s Energy 1500 350
Banish Energy 43Enemy 29 12% Energy debuff 10s 3s Energy 1500 350
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Post Comment
# Jun 16 2003 at 1:32 PM Rating: Default
When you get new spells, if you have a lesser form of them, they are simply replaced by the new spell, and do more damage, so thats why it looks like you have less spells than you should.
Help ME!!!
# Nov 11 2002 at 11:41 AM Rating: Decent
6 posts
I need a decent template for a Norse Thane. Since the Respec patch I have been considering changing everything!

I also need to know which is the best type of weapon, Sword (currently using), Axe or Hammer.

I need alot of advice on this one from the experienced Thane user. Thanks

Guyver Elite
Excalibur - Europe
#Anonymous, Posted: Oct 02 2002 at 8:32 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I've got a 50 mana eldritch on Merlin and thanes absolutely suck. I haven't fought a single thane that I didn't destroy within a few seconds. I watch thanes get torn to shreds by heros, champs, blademasters, armsmen, paladins, and mercs. I even watched a battle bard duel and own a thane. In rvr the instant spells do less than 40 dmg to me a piece. Thanes are just a gimp tank class for people who don't know what they are doing and find out that thanes can hit things and cast spells. Whooptie do...worst tank class in the entire game. Wardens own thanes, and wardens are considered gimp of a class is a thane then?
#Anonymous, Posted: Oct 18 2002 at 9:50 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Well, considering that any clown can play an eldritch and feel the power, I'm not surprised that someone with your obvious lack of talent or tack plays one. Whooptie do, as you so eloquently say, how hard is it to stand in the background and blast away? Kids play Eldritches 'cause it gives them there first real sense of power. Lame, but understandable. Real gamers work in classes where skill is needed to succeed. It's more satisfying. Take a hike, bozo.
RE: Thanes Suck
# Oct 11 2002 at 1:26 PM Rating: Default
Dont comment on something you know nothing about.
I play a thane, 50th lvl, and i defiantly dont have problems with wardens, bards and the like. The thane will not usually beat a pure tank in combat, that is true, but against champions and paladins i am very well-matched. My shouts do over double the damage you said they do to equal level casters....
Wardens, friars, bards, ministrels, etc are easy to kill alone, so you must have seen a 50th warden own maybe a 30th thane or something....
Thanes are not a gimp class by any means, in fact they they are quite popular. So noone listen to this guy, he probaly is just bitter by being owned by so many thanes.
1h shld v 2h parry
# Oct 02 2002 at 8:29 PM Rating: Default
well you see the thing is, if your going 1h and a shield you should at least get slam(42) and whatever your 1h to 39 this gives you the best fatigue ratio to damage and youll block so many times youll wonder to yourself "could I take a mob with just my shield?" dont forget stormcalling to 50

On the other hand if your going 2h get to 39 just like the 1h and 42 into parry. with this you get the best fatigue to damage ratio for you 2h and most of the time mobs will be missing you with your 42 parry.
# Sep 22 2002 at 10:19 PM Rating: Default
I have a lvl 9 thane and he rules but the only problem i have is with 2h weapons i love them but i cant use my sheild when i use 2h but the dmg on the weapons are like 45-60dmg per swing and with my 1h it is 20-25 i just want to know if i should stop with 2h and go 1h or stick with 2h beacuse of the better dmg
RE: Thanes
# Sep 23 2002 at 7:16 PM Rating: Default
Well as all guys said here,its you choice,but i can tell u when i started with a thane i used 2h axe and i got killed many times 'cuse the mob hits me 2 times ,when i only hit once.2h weapon is slow.Using a shield and 1h weapon is much better and easier to fight mobs.But its your chioce. :))

PS:Its not much differnce in dmg between 2h and 1h when ur a bit higher lvl
1 h is better
# Sep 21 2002 at 5:02 PM Rating: Default
I realy dont know why ppl say that using 2h weapons or 1h is the same..
When u r using 1h wep. with a shield u have a chance to block & parry (if u have put points on shield&parry)and that chance of parrying and blocking saved my *** many times.

Malumtz stormbringer lvl 26 thane (lancelot) Fury of midgard
char pic
# Jul 31 2002 at 1:16 PM Rating: Default
can someone tell me where i can find a really cool warrior male char pic please email me at
charisma for thanes?!?!?!?!!?!?
# Jul 22 2002 at 11:10 AM Rating: Default
hi im a minstrel turned thane and i know misntrels have DD spells and they are stronger with the higher charisma,does this work for thanes since their spells are DD's also
RE: charisma for thanes?!?!?!?!!?!?
# Aug 12 2002 at 8:01 AM Rating: Default
It does work the same way basically. In the case of Thanes, a higher Piety gives more damage and less chance of the mob resisting.
stat maxes
# Jun 22 2002 at 6:01 PM Rating: Default
the reason ya won't get a full stat buff from a skill is cuz your stat will be capped for your lvl and class so bam
stat maxes
# Jun 22 2002 at 6:01 PM Rating: Default
the reason ya won't get a full stat buff from a skill is cuz your stat will be capped for your lvl and class so bam
# May 28 2002 at 10:13 PM Rating: Default
i have thors might and it only does 26 why is that?

can contact me also on bedevere server for the question thankyou

Cranal LightningCaller
lvl 23
thane rules
# May 24 2002 at 10:36 AM Rating: Default
Hey guys. Got a lvl 45 thane now with
41 sword, 42 storm, 19 parry, 24 shield. Works really great in RvR since I can basically kill a group of greys with 1 hit of Mjollnir :)
Anyways, I have been a Thane for 5 months now and this is what I can give for advise:

Soloing ojs are great until around lvl 38. From then on, ojs are like 5 or 6 lvls above you so watch out. So what I am saying is that lvl 50s are oj to me now. . . Dont really want to solo them yet :(

The advise of doing mjollnir first to pull is not that great since mjollnir is AE. Try starting with the greater lightning stuff then mjollnir, insta, mjollnir, then the PBAOE.

From what I see, 2h weapons do not have a big diff from 1h. I switch between the twilight soul searer and the blessed northern sword and shield and the difference cant be seen. The only way you can tell the big diff is when doing greens :P So, basically, if you see a green invader, switch to 2h and see him fall in 2 hits.

I am trying to balance between parry and shield so I can switch between 1h and 2h. It's a great idea since I parry about 4 times and block about 5 times in battle meaning i only get 5% dmg.

Realm Abilities:
If you want major stormcalling power you need to put in in augmented acuity and serenity. Really good power regen on lvl2 on both.
Regen end (tireless) works great to reduce downtime.
Haven't really tested this but i would if i could (need feedback on this). Put more shield than parry (or vice versa), then put some on mastery of parrying(or vice versa). That should balance shield and parrying pretty well.
AE stun = no good unless they increase the stun length.

And I think that is all. Oh one more thing, DO NOT PULL AGGRO unless you have really good armor and can block or parry attacks like crazy. Cuz you will be wasting healer mana :) Oh, and always have shammies buff you! Shammy buffs = 2x healer buffs.

Twiztedblade Ofdeath -Bors
RE: thane rules
# May 28 2002 at 8:33 AM Rating: Default
First of all, do stormcalling all the way, its what makes you uniq.

Ive gathered some information on this, most thanes do 1h and shield when solo and 2h when in group, since 2h give 2x or 3x damage.

Glyph, 45 thane
# May 15 2002 at 7:12 PM Rating: Default
thors power only does 26 and it says it does 36 whats wrong
# May 13 2002 at 2:12 PM Rating: Default
I saw alb on MLF that speced in thrust and he was an arms man i killed him in 5 hits but he didnt have on hit on me cause of thrust it was great fun even though i took a lot of pics it was fun
Which is better?
# May 04 2002 at 1:19 AM Rating: Default
so has anyone compared the alb smite cleric to a thane yet?
thane soloing
# Apr 20 2002 at 2:37 PM Rating: Default
For soloing as a thane to be most effective, one needs to balance, health, end, and power, so you can rest up all of them when youre sitting down

If your main downtime is health -- Just cast more spells (remeber instas can be recast at least twice during a battle) and always use styles -- consider switching to 1 handed.

If your main downtime is power -- Don't cast so many spells, and dont use your instas.

If your main downtime is endurance -- either youre doing everything right, or you need to kill higher mobs.

Doing this effectively, i can solo yellows with only about a 15 sec downtime after the battle, i usually use 2 handed when soloing although i plan to spec shield to 42 myself...
The 7 commandments
# Apr 03 2002 at 1:35 PM Rating: Default
All these Thane specs are very good except I think every body is forgetting a couple things.

1.Archers will own you unless you block their arrows.
2.Parry doesn't block arrows.
3.Stormcalling is what makes thanes unique so you might as well max it.
4.Shield does same thing as parry except it can block arrows.
5.2h have very small difference in dmg compared to 1h
6.The enemy will always get to you somehow so your ham/axe/sword better not be specced 1
7.You don't HAVE to use hammers, unless you're cheap and you want the lvl 5 freebee

Using all this ancient lore you would most likely end up

50 Stormcall
50 Axe/hamm/sword/
Rest in shield

You dont have to follow this and if evry1 did it would be boring but if you just trying thanes or are a noob this is a good basic all around @$$ kickin thane
RE: The 7 commandments
# Nov 19 2004 at 8:36 AM Rating: Decent
2 posts
I am personally speccing both shield and parry,
I dont need shield at 42 cuz when casting u have 0 use of your shield.

the chance to parry and blocking is cumulative so the more even u spec shield and parry the higher chance u have of either parry or block.
remember that shield has half chance to block dualwielders.
so say u have 20% chance to parry 20% to block
total chance is 44% (because the chances to parry/block is calculated separately)instead of just shield or parry that gives 40% but u miss out on some good stun styles but that im am prepared to sacrifice for melee damage.

And your buffs are really good at 50 especially if u combine them with +% buff items/artis.
Gives u more weaponskill and hp's to solo with.
When u maxxed u'r skill bonuses on shield andd parry for me that is 23+11 17+11 u will ahev a great chance to parry or block a blow from mobs.

Remember u aint there to whop tank ****, just stay back DD the tanks from afar in that way u support your own tanks u will always outdamage your melee with Stormcalling in dmg if u spec high in it. and if u get in heat of battle go hunt some cloth when they run u raghnarok+insta their butts and laugh at them. well it all sounds easy enuff.

One more thing, many thanes have trouble hitting tanks with slam cuz the chance to hit with shield styles are based on your weaponskill yes and high weaponspecs and str increase weaponskill.

I have shield 23 to get paralyze 6 sec stun on backstyle sword 50 for raghnarok in heat of battle 50 for maxxed selfbuffs since i play W/O buffbot,

But hey this is my style of play. i might respec to classic 48/42/39 to try it out but not yet.

About 1h or 2h weapons i say im semi 2h if i chase a cloth stun pull out 2h useraghnarok and instas. if i meet a pure tank in rvr i sometimes engage 1h shield them until i get backup. if im alone well then im trying to kick him, but i havent won against many tanks in the Bg's
Midgar Nimue

Lvl 50 Thane
played 20 days 21 hr 0 min
Armor Crafting 623
Sword 50 Stormcalling 50 Shield 23 Parry 17

A trade, how interesting. No wait...

RE: The 7 commandments
# Jun 19 2002 at 4:30 AM Rating: Default
I'm gonna have to agree with him, max your weapon and stormcalling. As for shield and parry I tried to keep them equal till level 40, then I started pouring my mini-ding points into shield, I also have a lot of items that boost my parry, so while parry is specced to 12 right now I have items that add +10. I find doing this lets me block and parry a lot in fights. And as far as 2h vs 1h go I use both. 2h I use for soloing, 1h and shield I use when I RvR (to block arrows) and when I'm not the main tank in the group, this way I can put guard on the main tank and block a few shots for him. If I am the main tank I'll use the 2h if I have a good group that functions well and can keep me alive, if the group isn't real great I'll switch back to 1h and shield to help keep myself alive. Anyway thats just how I've specced, I've played this guy since I got the game and seem to do really well in groups and solo.
RE: The 7 commandments
# Apr 25 2002 at 3:46 PM Rating: Default
I have to disagree 2H weapons do almost double if not more than 1H weapons. I have 44 Storms 44 Hammer and 20 Parry. I parry against yellow con mobs 2 to 3 times a fight and that is more than enuff for me to have very little down time after a fight. Yes in RvR situations I do believe a shield could be very useful against range attacks and may still drop points into shields that is why I have stopped at 20 Parry. But for 1 on 1 fighting or your are tanking for a group 2H weapon is your answer.
RE: The 7 commandments
# Apr 21 2002 at 3:16 PM Rating: Decent
8 posts
I have a level 34 thane that can solo oranges with ease in both rvr and with npc's. I suggest that a thane should balance parry and shield to get them both the max level using very little points. 48 stormcalling is all that a thane should need because to get the last str spell is useless for how many points you spend. There is a huge difference between 1 hand and 2 hand weapons. For instance i can hit for 250(with dmg add) with my 2 hander. With my 1 hander i can hit from 90-120 that much dmg with 2 hander can help u take out almost any caster in 2 shots. i use hammers because the styles are really nice once you get higher levels. I can outdamage a warrior without even using my spells to pull easy. I suggest that all of you take my character in consideration and try to disregard this guy.
lol duhh DD
# Mar 28 2002 at 5:19 PM Rating: Default
Is it just me, or does the thanes DD magic suck?
hmm...IT DOES!
RE: lol duhh DD
# Apr 21 2002 at 3:19 PM Rating: Decent
8 posts
Fully specced in storm calling at 34 i can take out the mobs hp by 1/3 before the mob reachs me and the dmg add helps tons. Again someone who has never played a thane trys to make a comment on them.

34th Thane
niarkk morgan le fay
# Mar 11 2002 at 5:09 AM Rating: Default
i don't understand ....i have 41pts ine stormcaling,so i have my new str buff(thor fortification)but he give me +49STR.....and my last(Thor vitality)give me 49str too.....its bugged or not?
I agree
# Mar 18 2002 at 5:16 AM Rating: Default
I thought I had reached my buff cap when I cast it. Then another guildy gave me a shammy buff and up went the strength.

I cant say I am impressed with a spell that does absolutly ****** all, but I expect cost more power to cast.

This simply must be bugged!
Arnje Harkonnen
# Mar 09 2002 at 1:03 PM Rating: Default
I have seen a mighty hammer being called forth during battle. Someone told me it was a Thane weapon -- is it? and where does one get it?

RE: Arnje Harkonnen
# Mar 28 2002 at 5:17 PM Rating: Default
Its a thane spell effect, not a wieldable weapon =)
# Feb 27 2002 at 4:47 PM Rating: Default
i am a 33 thane on galahad and i belive stormcalling is a major skill to put points into because when u attack a yellow i get off 5 spells and bring him down to either half life or just below it and with 3 swings of my sword he is dead. athane is one of the better classes to play but i also like casters the are fun
40+ aren't always da wisest
# Feb 21 2002 at 1:03 AM Rating: Default
i play a scout to 48 before...decided to try out a thane cuz i hear it's fun. anways...i hear all these people saying...u don't kno da class well enough cuz u're only level 10 so shut up. well...i've seen alot of 40+ people and more than half of them play like newbs. especially da healers since they've been plvl'd their entire careers. i have yet to meet one that can play their class rite. anways...don't always listen to the opinions of someone that says "i kno everything cuz i'm level 45". for all u kno...he might really suck and still play like a newb...always aggroing when he shouldn't, breaking mezzes, cannot keep up wit constant pulls, etc. and i keep hearing people saying...thanes rule cuz i can outaggro a warrior that cons orange to me. but then why in da world would u wanna do that? so u can waste da healers mana because u wanna show off? let's see u show off when u're dead because da healer spent all his mana on u're dumbass.
RE: 40+ aren't always da wisest
# Apr 21 2002 at 3:23 PM Rating: Default
8 posts
Learn your grammar dumbass. Your probably the biggest noob on your server.
RE: 40+ aren't always da wisest
# Mar 09 2002 at 4:39 PM Rating: Default
Well, for one, I don't believe you would still play like a newb, if your level 40+, since you would have to kill a ton of crap just to get there. Only exception is if they got their characters from their friends, of something of that sort. Oh yeah, and if your going to post crap about people not knowing what they are doing, you can at least not make a complete *** of yourself, and learn to SPELL.

Jordanz, [Guinevere, (RP)]
RE: 40+ aren't always da wisest
# Feb 21 2002 at 2:22 PM Rating: Default
dunno what server yer playing on man but all the lvl 40+'s I play with dont play like newbs.. my group fought in the hardest trow room behind circle room pull 3 at a time a lot and we never died once in 5 hours... sure theres a few dumbasses and there always will be. So dont group with them, wow thats hard there easy enough to spot. From what ive experienced about 85 % of the high lvl people on my server know there *** from a hole in the ground and dont make newb mistakes like hit a mez'd creature.
# Feb 14 2002 at 12:52 AM Rating: Default
This is what I do, which works very well;

First, you have to make sure the mod you're trying to pull is as close to Mjollnir's max range as possible. Then, cast Mjollnir, immediatly casting the instant DD (so that you'll be able to use it again soon if the battle runs long). Then cast the timed DD, and if you were close enough to the first spells max range, you'll have enough time to get in another Mjollnirs and the point blank AoE. That's 5 spells off before you even engage in combant... devastating ;)
skill adds
# Feb 12 2002 at 7:58 PM Rating: Default
Can your hammer skill go over 50 if you have weapons or items that give + to hammer skills? Like, if you have 50 hammers, and you got a + 1 to hammer skill hammer, would it be 51?
2 handed vs. 1 handed
# Feb 11 2002 at 11:53 AM Rating: Default
I am a new player I have had 2 chars and now am on a lvl 6 thane, I was wondering if i should use shield and hammer or 2 handed hammer. I i have a 2 handed hammer then i dont want to put any points into shield but i am not sure. I would appreciate any help.
RE: 2 handed vs. 1 handed
# Feb 14 2002 at 9:40 AM Rating: Default
It's really up to you. I personally don't see a big difference between one and two handers damage-wise, which is why I use a one hander and a sheild. The Sheilds skill gives you abilities like Guard and Engage, which are very nice. But if you don't want to use sheilds, then don't bother; go for two handers :)
RE: 2 handed vs. 1 handed
# Feb 17 2002 at 4:37 PM Rating: Default
you can do a Half specification between shield and parry ..... got good result from this ...
parrying with your 1 handed sword and blocking with shield
# Feb 11 2002 at 10:19 AM Rating: Default
i'm a new thane, i just switched from hib. my stormcalling is 5 yet i only received 3 spells...thor's minor bolt, thors's vigor, and thunder's bash. if my skill is 5 shouldn't i be getting all the other spells up to and under skill 5?
RE: spells
# May 12 2002 at 4:55 PM Rating: Default
its becuase thors minor bolt and thors lesser bolt are the same thing so less bolt takes the place of minor bolt so that means you only get 4 spells.

cranal LightningCaller
lvl 17 thane
proud member of Green Lantern Corps
bedevere server
RE: spells
# Feb 11 2002 at 11:59 AM Rating: Default
I am new so this might not be true but I have heard people talking about this before, is your skill in it from a magic item? I have heard ppl talking about if it is from an item that you have skill points in the spells then you dont get those spells, but your other spells are stronger
little doorf thane
# Feb 09 2002 at 4:23 AM Rating: Default
i have made a doorf healer with half pts into constitution and the other half in str and charisma (only 2 pts into charisma thought i was gona be a sklad) will this severley destroy my char i am using axes and have 7 into storm and 6 into axe is this right plz tell me if i stuffed up

balthazor (tempest)

lvl 9 doorf thane who needs advice:))
The Greatness of Stormcalling
# Feb 02 2002 at 4:21 PM Rating: Default
I am a level 35 troll thane. I have stormcalling maxed so far and am planning to get it to at least 48. Stormcalling is a tremendously effective skill. With my stormcalling and hammer near max I can steel the agro from a warrior several levels higher whenever I want (though this usually isnt a good plan).
For Soloing, stormcalling will get oranges down to 2/3 health before they come to you, and yellows to 1/2. If you are soloing greens to get fast money, you need not even hit them, they die from stormcalling. Basically, all you have to do is cast your mjollnir spell, cast your normal dd, cast your instant dd, and when it is close up your point blank AoE.
Using this tactic i can easily solo oranges and have not died once in all the hundreds of oranges that I have soloed.
Next, I have noticed that the application of stormcalling to RvR has not been noted here at all. I must say that stormcalling is incredibly useful in RvR and that the thane plays an essential role in all engagements. You can stand inside keeps and cast AoE spells at enemy armies. You can take out archer guards with your spells. In field battles you can chain cast your mjollnir, hurting dozens of targets each time. And, of course, you can charge and melee along with all the warriors and berserkers, since your melee capabilities are almost as good.
I really must say that anyone wishing to play a thane should invest a lot in storm, it is after all the unique spec of the thane, if you wish to ignore it, play a warrior instead, who will be much stronger then a thane with no storm.

Good luck to you and have fun
Bonam, level 35 thane, percival server
RE: The Greatness of Stormcalling
# Feb 10 2002 at 11:36 PM Rating: Default
I just want to tell that i've played a 36th season armsman on percival and it suck a lot. Now, as a 12 thane with stromcalling maxed and sword near max, i can solo even more than with my armsman. Taking an orange it's not hard ... losing like 1/3 of Hps. Actualy, with my armsman, i loose up too 2/3 and sometimes a bit more and im wearing the best armor ( in plate ) that i've found so far in barrows ( 74 AF all over the body ...con yellow to me ).

Im realy impressed by the thane ability and i wonder how it will be when i got Mjolnir call ! ! ! :P

12 Thane
Old Thane
# Jan 31 2002 at 2:50 PM Rating: Default
Okay, I have been a thane since day one, October 10th, it was the earliest I could get it. I got to the class thane within about an hour, because I didn't know much. But, I haven't really passed level 8, because I keep changing servers, and making new characters, for, the old names aren't any good. In my opinion, I believe are one of the best characters in DAoC. They can go either solo, or in groups. PLus, with the ability to cast spells, both for offence and stat raising, you don't need to focus as much into power. Uhh, well, that's all I have to say.

-Jordanz (Guinevere)
Thanes are good
# Jan 25 2002 at 3:34 PM Rating: Default
anyone who complains that thanes suck is a total dumbass. thanes are exceptionally good, when i solo(yellows mostly) when they get to me they are at half bad i would think....

22 dwarf
Thanes and Axes?
# Jan 24 2002 at 2:05 PM Rating: Default
I'm just starting out as a thane (lvl 6), and have been using axes, rather than hammers. I haven't seen any other thanes here talk much about using axes...

What does everyone think? Are axes inferior for thanes, is it just a preference... What are the pros and cons for using axes instead of hammers?

lots of good info here - thanks

- Xlenese
RE: Thanes and Axes?
# Mar 03 2002 at 4:23 PM Rating: Default
I'm a level 18 Norseman Thane who uses an axe. I like breaking norms <grin>

I've noticed no disadvantages with this compared to troll thanes using hammers. In fact, I've gotten better axes than hammers during my career. Make sure you hunt werewolves in Myrkwood around level 15 in a group. They drop the Noble Wanderer's Axe which is very nice all the way up to level 20.

Cythas Tjorkryst
RE: Thanes and Axes?
# Mar 16 2002 at 12:33 AM Rating: Default
Axe on plate = No good

Hammer on plate = COOL !
RE: Thanes and Axes?
# Apr 07 2002 at 2:51 AM Rating: Default
I've rvr'd a bit on an armsman and my infiltrator and my friend's wizard, i've noticed in rvr the penatlies and bonus's to weapons vrs armor are useless because most battles are over in 5 secodns and almost NEVER 1 on 1, so what's the point? I have a dwarf thane and I went axes because it's more fitting for a dwarf, mi hear there's mroe axe drops, and all out I like axes better than hammers, so far I find nothing wrong with it.
# Jan 21 2002 at 4:27 PM Rating: Default
Is dexterity of any use when using a hammer or does it only influense weapons like bows?
RE: Dexterity
# Jan 29 2002 at 1:21 PM Rating: Default
Dexterity is of almost no use to Thanes and other HtH fighters. Except for the spear, all HtH weapons use STR to determine Weapon Skill. DEX may have some effect on Blocking, but I have seen no evidence of this...
RE: Dexterity
# Feb 28 2002 at 2:06 PM Rating: Default
Dex helps you hit high con mobs more often.. very nice when yer in a group of lvl 44 +'s as a lvl 40 getting 12 mil exp per kill and the pulls keep flowing. Dex is good, sure its not the best but its nice to have.
My thane
# Jan 16 2002 at 2:07 PM Rating: Default
Ok keep this in mind...I'm a NEW thane so other new thanes do not copy this because it may be a bad template, I'm all study here and no expirience as of yet. I've played on all the realms and tried the majority of classes on each but they have become boring after level 9ish. Now I made a thane, I thought it would be boring like the champion but now I'm level 9 and well it's still hella fun cause I can solo yellows with ease and I hear i'll be good in rvr to. Here's my template plan, alot of study has gone into this so here it is:
44 hammers
46 stormcalling
42 shield spec
10 parry

this here seems awesome to me because in rvr i want to take hits therefor use a shield instead of parry (am i wrong?). Now heres another question, should i keep hammer maxed every level? I want to keep the ability to solo yellows/oranges all the way so whats the best way to do that? what should i put points into early on? thx.
RE: My thane
# Jan 29 2002 at 1:28 PM Rating: Default
Keeping Stormcalling maxed is defines your class, and does incredibly well in RvR. As far as choosing between Parry and Shield, both seem important. I prefer using a shield, because by using a weapon and a shield, you can get magic adds from BOTH. However, I have noticed that all of the high level quest Hammers and Axes are Two-Handed...though a decent One-Hand 12.3 DPS hammer with good adds dropped from a monster in the Spindallia(sp?) dungeon recently...
RE: My thane
# Apr 02 2002 at 5:20 PM Rating: Default
actually keeping sc = to your level is imperative only up to a point. my thane is specced 43 hammer 46 sc 42 shield and 17 or so parry, can't remember the numbers off the top of my head but anyway. Slam is indispensible doing small scale rvr, the 9 or so second stun can make all the difference, more so than full spec sc, especially since you'll easily reach 50 sc spec with rvr bonuses and item bonuses. Also with such a high shield spec you'll be blocking attacks left and right, it's quite gratifying to block half your opponents attacks at times.
Ouuuu YEAAAAH !!
# Jan 03 2002 at 11:51 AM Rating: Default
i got a 12 thane with of course 12 in stormcalling and it rocks !!!
I can solo at my level yellow and even oranges !!

With the stormcalling spell i take 1/2 of a mobs' hitpoint ... and then 1 ruiner and they die !

Thanes Ownz !!
# Jan 02 2002 at 8:47 PM Rating: Default
Could someone PLEASE post a list of acronyms for this newbie. I'm trying to understand what DOT, ATM, DS, and such. It's confusing when trying to learn about characters, etc.
RE: Acronyms
# Jan 16 2002 at 9:45 PM Rating: Default
DS = Damage Sheild
RE: Acronyms
# Jan 03 2002 at 1:34 PM Rating: Default
DOT=Damage Over Time

DD=Direct Damage

ATM=At The Moment

AFK=Away From Keyboard

POI/POM/POT=Purity of Intellect/Purity of

Meditation/Purity of Thought - All mana regen buffs just different levels

OOM/LOM/OOP=Out Of Mana/Low On Mana/Out Of Power

END=Out of Endurance

LOS=Line Of Sight

AOE/AE=Area of Effect
rounded Thane
# Jan 02 2002 at 1:58 PM Rating: Default
See what you think:

Stormcalling 46
Hammers 34
Axes 34
Parry 32
Shield 20
(this leaves enough for 'whirling blade' in swords but does it really matter?)

You don't get the last three of Hammers or Axes, nor the last two of Stormcalling, but... You do have your choice of weapons against mobs (bones v/s shell) and, depending on your taste, using shield v/s two handed...

Using both shield and parry you will avg blocking/parrying almost half the time you get hit.

Anyways, this is what I have planned for Rokal, de Troll on Percival...
His current setup is:
Stormcalling 2
Hammers 2
Axes 3
Parry 2
Shield 4

Initial 30 put in con, dex, and quick, 10 each.

Newly converted to Midgard. Sick of Albion.
RE: rounded Thane
# Apr 21 2002 at 4:01 PM Rating: Decent
8 posts
Only max one weapon type, dont do both axe and hammer. Also never put into dex and quick. i suggest 10 str, 10 con and 10 peity. Peity affects how much damage your spells will do and how much power you will have.

34th Thane
# Dec 28 2001 at 4:40 PM Rating: Default
44 hammer
46 stormcalling
25 parry
35 shield

This is what I call the RvR template

in RvR it's usually too frantic to pull off long style chains which is what the 50th skill for hammer is.

At 45 stormcalling you gain your last upgrade to Mjollnir (AoE spell) which will be your most used spell/skill in RvR. The 46th skill lvl will gain you the final damage buff which imo is priceless.

35 shield will get you a positional style with a long duration stun which can be exceptionally useful. Only problem is I believe that melee style stuns are broken atm.

25 parry just for ***** and grins.
My Template
# Dec 27 2001 at 5:45 PM Rating: Default
what do ya think about this template?

50 Stormalling
50 Hammers
30 Shield
5 Parry
Best Thane Template (Hammer speced)
# Dec 14 2001 at 2:17 PM Rating: Default
Guys, this is coming from a level 41 Thane so I know what I am talking about. We are a great class that great both for RvR and PvE. We work well in groups and solo equaly as well.

I will spec my Thane based on the following template and I highly suggest thanes out there to at least give this template some thought -- at least if you using hammers.

50 Hammers
46 Stormcalling
26 Parry OR 23 Parry
23 Shield OR 26 Shield
(depends if you see yourself using shield often or not, I suggest 26 parry since it will be always in effect)

This information was taken from DAoC Catacomb's character builder, so if their point calculations are wrong don't flame me please -- I checked it and it looked correct to ME.

Why not push Stormcalling to 50 or at least 48 for the best spells? First of all from 46 to 50 it will take you 194 points that can be used elsewhere for better results (parry/shield). By not pushing the last 4points you will lose only 1 bolt and 1 str buffs. That bolt is not a big loss because you will still have previous (very strong) version as well as it is never used in RvR anyway. In RvR it is almost always targeted AoE and insta bolts -- trust me. Loss of 12 str is insignificant when buffed with just your str buff yous str (assuming troll) would be around 212.

You want parry high--that is self explainatory since I will be using 2h weapon at least 50% of the time. However you do not want to neglect shield skills. Engage style is a must have against archers, and BEST hammer style is based of BLOCK (no shield = no block). So if you plan to spec 50 in hammers you will be waisting points unless you put them into a shield too. Otherwise you can just get items that give you +hammer and have the same effect.

Just a little food for thought and looking for you high level players for more imput.

41 Thane
RE: Best Thane Template (Hammer speced)
# Dec 24 2001 at 2:45 AM Rating: Decent
10 posts
Your idea isn't bad at all. I started my thane this morning, and just made lvl 12.

I love the thane more so than my lvl 43 Shaman. Thanes own, completely :)

I am building mine a little different, well, because, I'm a little differnt.

You being a "bigger" than myself, what do you think of this?

Stormcalling : 50
Parry: 41
Hammer: 41

The reason i have parry and hammer even is, to my knowledge, to be most affective with a weapon type, your training needs to be 2/3rds your lvl or greater. 41 meets that, but doesn't open up the "impossible" combos that come from the higher skills. Also, i find parry to be invaluble.

I quote:
"This ability grants you a base chance of 5% to deflect blows with your weapon, modified by the level difference between you and your attacker. Furthermore, each point you put into parry adds .5% chance to deflect blows."

That means with a parry of 40, my base parry is now at 25% against yellow cons. If the formula is originally set to be 5% vs evens. This is HUGE!! To be able to parry 25% of every even con??? (remember at lvl 50, all my rvr enemies have no choice to be even or lower (meaning i will parry more))

Well, those are my thoughts :)

Axtrixis Telal
RE: Best Thane Template (Hammer speced)
# Apr 27 2002 at 9:16 AM Rating: Default
The reason i have parry and hammer even is, to my knowledge, to be most affective with a weapon type, your training needs to be 2/3rds your lvl or greater. 41 meets that, but doesn't open up the "impossible" combos that come from the higher skills. Also, i find parry to be invaluble.

Do you mean at L50, as long as my weap skill is 34 and above, it'll be effective?

RE: Best Thane Template (Hammer speced)
# Dec 16 2001 at 3:01 AM Rating: Default
Very nice setup, nicely put. I would go with axes instead of hammer since the 50 style only requires a simple 29 style instead of a 21+34 style shield block dependent chain that 50 style hammer has.
what is AOE
# Dec 14 2001 at 1:34 AM Rating: Default
Im looking at starting a hard hitting thane. Can someone give me any good advice. I have read this thread and have learnt much from it already. What is AOE?
RE: what is AOE
# Dec 14 2001 at 1:15 PM Rating: Default
AOE or AE refer to "area of effect" spells, i.e., spells that affect multiple targets within a prescribed area. There are two general types of AE: "point blank" spells (the Thunder series) don't require a target -- they radiate outwards from the caster and affect all mobs near the caster, "targeted" spells (the Mjollnir series) radiate outwards from a targeted mob and affect all mobs near the target.
# Dec 11 2001 at 1:49 AM Rating: Default
I kick **** as a thane
one more use for thane spells
# Dec 08 2001 at 9:30 AM Rating: Default
******** off in dungeons when u should be leveling somewhere boring, mobs pop when u got your back turned, jump on the healer, and everyone's like...where where's the mob wtf why is the healer dying??? i'm a thane so i just hit my shout spell, wherever it is whatever it is is now on me and everythings all good.
skill points
# Dec 07 2001 at 2:39 PM Rating: Default
after level 40 you get more spec points than normal.

not level times 2 anymore more like:
(level + a bonus)*2

it's like this for all classes. you can use a character builder to find out.

you're all whining like 5 year olds. sheesh.

--a lvl 48 thane
response to crappy nukes
# Dec 07 2001 at 2:01 PM Rating: Default
Lmao buddie you think you know all about the thane dont you.. wow yer lvl 5 and you are complaing yer nukes sux.. no duh, when you get the AOE DD known as call mjollnir all you can own shop. I can solo oraneges with my lvl 24 thane and have no risk of dying if its the right creature. You know nothing about the thane so shut the **** up and dont talk about $@#! you dont know about. wow we happend to own in RvsR and RvsE.. we sure sux.. AOE spell hits 10 people for 100 dmg each and then again and again hey i got 217 RTM points what do you know.... dumb ***
shut up
# Dec 07 2001 at 2:00 AM Rating: Default
i think people who haven't played a certain class up to level 25 should shut up. u think u kno all but u kno nuthin so stop giving hints and u're opinions and confuse others.
Skill points
# Dec 04 2001 at 7:25 PM Rating: Decent
4 posts
Yes, you can end up with 50, 50, 28, and have some points left over to boot.

You can easily calculate your points by going to:
Varingar Eireste
Dwarf Thane
# Dec 04 2001 at 1:02 AM Rating: Default
1 + 2 x ^9 $ 3 = 6 & 4
You got it wrong.
# Nov 30 2001 at 3:26 AM Rating: Default
at level 40.5 you get 20 skill points to spend, and every half level after that you get half of your level in skill points

So you can end up with 50 50 23 (28 I think)

Explaining Skill points
# Nov 29 2001 at 11:41 PM Rating: Default

You get your level * 2 for skill points..

Ok let's calculate..
the sum of 1 + 2 + 3 + 4... + 50 = 50 * 51 /2
times 2 = 50 * 51
= 2550

to get a skill to 50 it cost
2 + 3 +4 +5 +6 + ... + 50 = 50 * 51 / 2

see ? you get 2 50 ( but even then you can't because you don'T receive 2 times your level for level 2 to 5. )

You have to calculate first.
The all offensive Thane
# Nov 28 2001 at 4:22 PM Rating: Default
50 stormcalling
50 hammer
23(?) parry

Give this troll a nice 2h hammer and blammo, a veritable fortress of pain and suffering.
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