Classes: Hunter, Infiltrator, Minstrel, Nightshade, Ranger, Rogue (Albion), Rogue (Midgard), Scout, Shadowblade, The Way of Stealth
A catch all for the "rogue" base skills, training this affects not only how hidden one can become, but additional abilities can be granted as well.
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# Nov 28 2005 at 11:35 AM Rating: Decent
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so, for a Shadowblade, would it be wise to keep Stealth at your level, CS at your level, and then some into your weapon of choice, in my case thrust, then some into envenom.... will this work at all?
Never test the depth of water with both feet.
# May 24 2005 at 4:29 AM Rating: Decent
Starting a Rogue
# Aug 27 2003 at 11:25 AM Rating: Decent
11 posts
Iam new to DAoC and am wanting to be a rogue. I have read here something about assisians. Iam wanting to be the type that has hide ability and can climb walls. How would u direct me to go. This all ssems so confuseing :).
RE: Starting a Rogue
# Aug 29 2003 at 7:47 AM Rating: Decent
116 posts
The character types that have the skills outlined in your post are the Nightshade (Hib), Infiltrator (Alb), and the Shadowblade (Mid), depending in which realm you are starting. I would suggest you checkout the pages here and read some of the links for each of these.

Anegale BloodRayne
Deadly Nightshade.
Stealth spec
# Jun 24 2003 at 8:30 AM Rating: Default
all u need to do for stealht is get it to lvl 35 or around there somae for envenom, cause its easy to get up to 50 in both of these with itmes, saves up alot of points as well.
# May 18 2003 at 7:10 PM Rating: Default
Hey do u think it is a good idea for a sb to spec 50 crit 50 stelth and the rest envom
i got a question
# May 18 2003 at 7:09 PM Rating: Default
hunters and camoflauge?!
# May 15 2003 at 10:07 PM Rating: Default
what is camoflauge and how does it work??
# May 09 2003 at 9:34 PM Rating: Default
I can't seem tofigure out how to use the distraction ability. How do you select a location?
RE: Distraction
# May 12 2003 at 12:07 AM Rating: Default
Use F5 and u'll see a little target thing underneath you...use move and it'll move the target around when holding F5 and then click on distraction and it'll use it.
# Mar 26 2003 at 5:34 AM Rating: Default
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25 Climb Wall <---- Hmm wonder what that means m8 : P

Stealth Training
# Jan 08 2003 at 2:22 PM Rating: Decent
7 posts
I have not trained in steath since day one. I am a more than adequate ShadowZerker, and use a sword. Stealth will auto train every so lvls. I'm letting it auto-train. This does make me a bit less Stealthy on the lower lvl Bg's, however, the extra 50+ points will come in handy in the long run. 2 bits ;^)
The purpose of Living is to Die well!

Xarto Xavvin
i need help
# Sep 22 2002 at 12:20 AM Rating: Good
12 posts
i have a levl 20 sb and i was told to keap my stealth the same levl as me so this is how i have it all
stealth 20
envenom 14
crit strike 13
and left axe 9
is that ok ?
RE: i need help
# Oct 20 2002 at 4:01 PM Rating: Default
i would keep ur crit strike and ur sword to your lvl
Re: Assasins Vs Scout Types
# Sep 02 2002 at 4:03 PM Rating: Default
Alright, yes, to my knowledge (And i'm only going by what i've heard from bits and pieces of conversations from my guildees) Assasins CAN see other stealthers farther than scouts. It helps that Assasins get the Detect Hidden skill which ups their range (I think anyways)

Although, it would be more logical for Assasins to see stealthers at a further distance thans Scouts regardless of their level of stealth.

I hope this answers your question or at least helps

Kudro Mandragoran (27 Wizzy Morgan Le Fay)
climb walls??
# Aug 27 2002 at 1:14 AM Rating: Default
how do you climbs walls?
RE: climb walls??
# Aug 31 2002 at 9:26 PM Rating: Default
You have to skill up stealth to 25 (without items)...

At some points at a keep's wall there are some kinds of steps ... just walk on straight ahead there and you'll start to climb
#Anonymous, Posted: Aug 12 2002 at 8:30 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post)
# Aug 12 2002 at 8:29 AM Rating: Default
hey guys i have a question is posion really important? because i like to put alot of points in it because it is really strong and hurts the enemy alot and i don't have much trouble in bg but i just wanted to know.

RE: stealthing
# Dec 06 2002 at 12:54 PM Rating: Decent
I would put some in cs and sword to do high damage with your posion
jake landwehr
# Aug 12 2002 at 8:26 AM Rating: Default
hey guys i see it this way if u r a NS and see a norseman come up by u in stealth i would unstealth and get the **** out of there u can see that he is going to kill u anyway so no point of waiting for him and trying to kill him. and yeah if u r a ranger, hunter, or scout u can have your stealth high to hide from people but assasins will always find u so yeah u can put points in stealth but bow is really what u want to put points in.


RE: stealthing
# Oct 07 2002 at 4:07 PM Rating: Default
umm stanno i hate to break this to you but if that norseman comes up to me stealthed and he isnt purple i will be cutting him to bits in no uncertain terms
poison X2 and a 150 point opening attack is often enough to make anyonw try and run away
last night alone i ganked 6 norseman in battlegrounds and they were all orange to me

level 33 lurikeen nightshade
crit strike 33
envenom 28+2
stealth 18 +4
and i do just fine solo

Lurikeen spine remover
RE: stealthing
# Jul 25 2004 at 3:13 AM Rating: Decent
48 posts
On that last post of mine sry for the wrong names at the bottom my NS name is

Dewyy Cloudwalker
Lurikeen Nightshade.Bedevere server
RE: stealthing
# Jul 25 2004 at 3:09 AM Rating: Decent
48 posts
To all you guys saying run for a norseman if you see one i tell ya what i have a lvl 46 NS on bed Hib Server and i kinda eat them for lunch even the Oj ones to me

and i have trained a diff way then most people

41 Stealth
31 Picering
41 Crit Strike
and 28 envenom
and i do better then most Ns i know but i also have others asking me for help cuz i have been seen soloing Abys at lvl 42
so next time you say unstealth and run i am sry i like to fight till the death and i know most people do
Detect Hidden & Danger Sense
# Aug 08 2002 at 1:50 PM Rating: Default
Umm how do you use detect hidden and danger sense or is it all automatic and is it according to your stealth level how good you are at these two things?
RE: Detect Hidden & Danger Sense
# Aug 10 2002 at 6:44 PM Rating: Decent
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# Aug 02 2002 at 10:09 AM Rating: Default
It's still good to get a good amount of stealth on a ranger or hunter or whatever you may be. It still lets you move faster while hidden and the ability to not be seen except probably by assassins is still great. If you don't have stealth don't expect the color of your tunic to hide you....

And come now, of course the assassin gets more abilities in stealth, that's one of the main skills for an assassin. A ranger doesn't need to climb walls, because he can shoot at stuff in the forts, while an assassin has to be right there near someone to kill him.
# Aug 02 2002 at 9:35 AM Rating: Default
What it the average stealth points to be reached to get a quite 'safe' RvR for a ranger at lvl 35 and then a upper levels?
Is 25 points sufficient or do we have to get much more ?
# Jul 29 2002 at 8:17 PM Rating: Default
for hunters what would any of u recomend for stealth lvl?
# Jul 25 2002 at 9:14 PM Rating: Default
so can scouts get climb walls or not? im still a bit confused on the topic(if so when?) and plz if ya go to bg dont try to dye you armor etc to hide...its so sad when people stand in one spot not moving after thesve been uncovered try to "hide"
thx for help

of gawaine
# Jul 10 2002 at 11:21 AM Rating: Default
Uh this is misleading, hunters dont get any special stealth abilities except being invisible. They should get an altered detect hidden ability which will work when the other stelather is in melee range. This would effectively negate both the assassins and the hunters critical strikes and leave it up to melee ability, but this is probably wishful thinking.

Lvl 32 hunter
# Jun 29 2002 at 3:28 AM Rating: Default
Which skill is the one who make me invissible ?
RE: stealth
# Oct 08 2002 at 2:35 PM Rating: Decent
stealth abilities
#Anonymous, Posted: Jun 30 2002 at 8:49 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) celtic dual *gg*
Stealth auto-train
# Jun 05 2002 at 9:30 AM Rating: Default
Can someone please tell me what levels stealth will auto train and how high it will go. Or you could just post a link:)
RE: Stealth auto-train
# Jun 16 2002 at 4:35 PM Rating: Default
I'm pretty sure you get one every 4 levels, such as 1 point at level 9, 13, 17...
bad timing.....
# May 26 2002 at 11:13 PM Rating: Default
Here's the deal...

I have a level 24 NS with around 18 into stealth. I have had a problem beating other stealthers though. It seems that more often than not, I detect them about 2 feet from me. 19 times out of 20 they hit me first and since it's a norseman with high strength and a 2h axe, he does twice my hit points in damage and doesn't even unstealth when he kills me.

I have no problem being out-matched or out-thought, but I am not sure what I am doing wrong. From my perspective there should be plenty of time for me to target him and do my crit shot. Is it their higher Stealth rating? Is it higher Quickness or Dex?

I want to learn more about this and be the bane of stealthers everywhere. Any thoughts or advice would be welcome!

Dandelion Castersbane
**** Dirty Apes, Bors Server
# May 24 2002 at 8:16 AM Rating: Default
How does it work? and does it work?
RE: Distraction?
# May 25 2002 at 4:10 AM Rating: Decent
116 posts
Distraction is activated by using your ground marker, the F5 key. Press the key and move the marker around using your directional keys or mouse to the desired place where you want the mob to look. Then press your distraction button on your hotbar (cause thats where you need to put it for it to work) and if you're successful the mob will turn to look in that direction; usually in the opposite direction to where you are standing so now it has offer it's back to you... easy target :)

And yes on mobs it works the majority of the time...

Anegale BloodRayne
Deadly Nightshade.
Need advice plz!!!
# May 22 2002 at 7:29 PM Rating: Default
I was woundering from all you high Lvl Hunters do u consider stealth a valuble trait to have as in u wouls suggest that i max out on it??? If you could let me know how much if any i should train in the ability i would apprecit it!
Thank you
RE: Need advice plz!!!
# Jul 02 2002 at 1:28 PM Rating: Default
well you should most likely train a little in stealth but your not a shadowblade, shadowblades are the ones that should train in stealth not hunters but thats just my opinion. you should put a bunch into bow...... beastcraft is ok too i gus.
Current Stealth Skills
# May 20 2002 at 8:26 PM Rating: Excellent
116 posts
At current patch level the following skills/abilities are available from spec'ing in Stealth FOR NIGHTSHADES..!!

5 Distraction
8 Danger Sense
10 Safe Fall I
16 Detect Hidden
20 Safe Fall II
25 Climb Wall
30 Safe Fall III
40 Safe Fall IV
50 Safe Fall V well as the ability to stealth of course :p

Anegale BloodRayne
Deadly Nightshade.

Edited, Sat Jul 27 12:46:32 2002
RE: Current Stealth Skills
# Jun 10 2002 at 2:34 AM Rating: Default
eh dude thats just wrong... I got 33 stealth and safe fall V
RE: Current Stealth Skills
# May 10 2003 at 6:29 PM Rating: Default
"eh dude thats just wrong... I got 33 stealth and safe fall V"

I think you mean Evade V ;)
You get that at lvl 30
RE: Current Stealth Skills
# Jun 10 2002 at 5:49 AM Rating: Excellent
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hmm... very strange, I have stealth 31 and only SF3... what server you on, maybe I should transfer my char.. :)

...but seriously though, the above info comes direct form the game patch notes which say that you gain a level in Safe Fall for every ten points in Stealth, and also the 1.50 patch notes say that they have fixed the bug that was stopping those that spec'd to 50 in Stealth from receiving Safe Fall 5... if you have SF5 at only 33 Stealth keep quiet about it.. :p

Anegale BloodRayne
Deadly Nightshade.

Edited, Thu Jun 13 07:24:42 2002
Missing abilety?
# May 20 2002 at 7:56 PM Rating: Default
ello....ive just gotten a abilety called safefall 1 at stealth lev11 its missing to....
# May 12 2002 at 1:42 AM Rating: Default
uhhh there are more stealth skills than that.

my friends NightShade has a skill that lets him climb up walls... i dont see that there
Assasins Vs Scout types
# May 09 2002 at 5:36 AM Rating: Default
I've been having a hard time finding the answer to this question.
Do Assasins have an advantage over Scouts in stealth?
For instance can Assasins see other stealths farther then Scouts if each have the same spec lvl on stealth?
Or can they see other stealths the same distances?
RE: Assasins Vs Scout types
# May 09 2002 at 9:30 AM Rating: Default
there is a lot of new abilities that only assasins can use...
# May 02 2002 at 5:37 PM Rating: Default
is ther any point that you spec in steath that nothing can see you even if there on top of you?
# May 02 2002 at 5:37 PM Rating: Default
is ther any point that you spec in steath that nothing can see you even if there on top of you?
# May 02 2002 at 5:36 PM Rating: Default
is ther any point that you spec in steath that nothing can see you even if there on top of you?
RE: stealth
# May 03 2002 at 5:44 AM Rating: Excellent
116 posts
Make sure when you are posting that you don't have any web filters activiated, otherwise you may get the "Disscussions not enabled on this page" error on your browser, and you may think it hasn't posted... but it has... :/

Anegale BloodRayne
Deadly Nightshade.

Edited, Fri May 3 06:38:25 2002
RE: stealth
# May 02 2002 at 6:10 PM Rating: Default
is there any point that you need to post the same **** thing 4 times in a row, what are you #^$@ing retarded
Re: Missing Skills
# Apr 29 2002 at 5:05 AM Rating: Default
Very easy : Skills like Sense Danger, Detect Hidden or Climb are only for Infiltrators/Nightshades an Assasins
Stealth and Rangers
# Apr 26 2002 at 2:35 AM Rating: Default
Exactly how important is stealth to rangers? They don't exactly get close to peeps in rvr to kill them. Wouldn't it be more worthwhile to simply have stealth at 1/2 season and simply spend the freed up spec points on other skills rather than having stealth maxed or at 3/4 season so it's harder for assassins to track you down?

"Don't shoot untill you see the whites of their eyes? ****, by then you're already dead!"
A Good Trick
# Apr 05 2002 at 2:53 PM Rating: Default
I am a Minstrel and I just raised my stealth High enough to Be hidden by most, about 16. The way I figure it I can max my thrust and my instruments, that way when the Shadowblade or Nightshade tries to sneek up on me, all he finds is a quick death by me or my Fellow stealthers. I am the Bait of sorts. But the Bait with a Bite.

Paablo DeathRunner
# Apr 02 2002 at 4:50 PM Rating: Decent
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Here's what i plan on doing:

up until i'm ready for the 30-35 BG i'm leaving stealth alone, lvl 15 now and have 3 skill in Stealth without putting ANY points into it. How? auto-train, starting at lvl 8, every 4 lvls NS's get an auto-trained point into Stealth (8,12,16,20,etc.) by lvl 32 i can have my stealth skill up to 8 and shave 35points that i can use to get CS or envenom just that little bit higher. after lvl 32, i'll keep stealth maxxed and envenom as well i think.

Here are my vitals as of lvl 15:
stealth 1 (+2 from auto-train and +1 from item)
pierce 10 (+2 from item)(detaunt style for groups)
Celtic Dual 2 (oops, wish i hadn't done that)
Envenom 14
Critical Strike 12 (hamstring)

at lvl 32 i plan to have:
stealth 32
pierce 10
CS 21 (Perf. Artery)
Envenom 26
CD 2

i'm not raising CD simply because at 50 skill there is still only a 50% chance of swinging with both weaps

Sasuke Sarugakure
lvl 15 Nightshade
Lancelot Hibernia

P.S. autotrain points are not counted like item bonuses, but as if you had put the points into it. so at lvl 20 i'll get the distraction ability (stealth skill 5) whereas if i had +4/5 points from items at lvl 1, i wouldn't.
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my 2 cents
# Mar 24 2002 at 8:47 AM Rating: Default
i am a 32 lurikeen nighshade. i find that poison is helpful especially when you solo and going up again others in the battlefields. i poisoned a few in the last few days and at 25dd per tick it wont take long for 100 pts of life to be leached off of them. if its a caster you are on they dead quick. i also love my dd spell i have and sometimes when i hit that it sends em running. they dont expect that you see. i have my armor dyed brown and use a light green hooded cloak with stats when in the field. i blend in with dirt or grass. max your stealth out always. i also use piercing and crit strikes.
Climb Wall
# Mar 07 2002 at 1:25 PM Rating: Default
hey les gars oublier par que en 1.45 les hunter et shadowblade et tout les autres stealther auront le Climb wall )
trop fort pour sniper en etant sur un mur :)
dommage que damage has diminue :/
RE: Climb Wall
# Jun 20 2002 at 6:42 PM Rating: Default
Interesting that he was able to navigate all the way to here reading english, but can't seem to type it...
RE: Climb Wall
# Mar 11 2002 at 5:32 PM Rating: Default
RE: Climb Wall
# Mar 23 2002 at 3:48 PM Rating: Decent
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he said it in french......cant translate unfortunately, i have friends that can tho, ill try to get one of the over here, and ill post it once it is translated.
RE: Climb Wall
# Mar 24 2002 at 6:43 PM Rating: Default
No nead man i'll translate it for ya ( i'm french ^^ )
The message talk's about new ability granted in version 1.45 (climb wall) ...
fun to snip on the top of a wall hu ? Now what about sniping from the top of a guard tower :)

Too bad that they reduce damage still
ShadowBlade Strategy on Midgard, what is the best path to go
# Feb 16 2002 at 11:40 PM Rating: Default
Im mainly investing in Critical Strike and Sword, and some in stealth. Im a level 9 shadowblade on Midgard. And just invested in envenom for the first time. 3 times I clicked it I believe. When someone says they have a level 7 sword, or level 10 this blah blah etc. how do you measure how many points you have into a skill? Is it through how many actual #'s you see when u right click your trainer? Im told to put some into crit strike, some into Sword, some into stealth, and envenom, those are the main ones u should spread nicely when your a shadowblade? I have em spreaded pretty nicely among envenom/critstrike/sword/stealth now. Is this a good way to go? i hear doing stealth/poison really high is good for RvR, when uget lifebane poison u can creep up when your clocked, and strike with lifebane poison and kill in one shot.
RE: ShadowBlade Strategy on Midgard, what is the best path t
# Feb 27 2002 at 11:37 AM Rating: Default
I'm currently a level 12 shadwoblade kobold.
The comp i suggest you to boost is to boost sword equal to your leveL. It's your main weapon and it have to make damage !
The further points i suggest to spread among stealth, envenom and critical strike.
With stealth you can gain great abilities : move around hidden, scouting, attack from behind, etc etc and the comp distraction is great to make a mob look elsewhere...
Envenom is great and absolutly needed. With poison you can boost your attacks and fight greater mob (yellow one doesn't make me in trouble)...
Critical strike give you the ability to backstab ennemies and make greater damages.

As weapon, i use as primarily combinaison sword and buckler, the sword i use is a short one, good damage but extreamly fast. The aim is to use the boosted speed of the kobold to hit a lot of time and thus with some attack force the mob to not attack you. The buckler permit you with great dex (kobold have) to block some attaks. One block can give you a great advantage.
The second combinaison is a great double handed sword (max dam - speed doesn't care), that i use as final blow sword. When you come to end or in trouble with the mob life, a quick switch from weapon can give you a great hit without the waiting of the blow...
Actually, i put poison on both weapons...
I can give me an advantage too when fighting two mobs.. !
RE: ShadowBlade Strategy on Midgard, what is the best path t
# Feb 19 2002 at 3:05 PM Rating: Default
poison isnt that good...
im level 36 and singleshotted a red mage....
Sense danger etc.
# Feb 14 2002 at 8:48 PM Rating: Default
Um it isn't a skill, when u reach that level u get it, its just not under skill tree, for instance u don't have to put detect hidden on your quickcast and press the button, u automatically can see stealthed people all the time, same goes for sense danger, it will tell u when a scout sees you. So if u don't see the skill under skills like distraction its ok u still have it 8)
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