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#52 Jul 16 2016 at 6:14 PM Rating: Good
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#53 Jul 16 2016 at 6:48 PM Rating: Excellent
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I could see the popularity cresting pretty quick. Seems like the sort of game where the commitment to be "productive" ramps up pretty quickly once the novelty of seeing a Snorlax in your laundry pile wears off.
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#54 Jul 16 2016 at 11:22 PM Rating: Good
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I've been wondering that too. For as huge as it is right now I don't see the current mania lasting very long past the summer. It'll probably slow down a lot once vacations are over and people go back to school, and even more as it gets colder. Who really wants to do all this in the freezing cold?


I'd gladly trade freezing cold for 90 degrees humid Florida summer weather with no AC. At least with cold I can put on more clothes T__T
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#55 Jul 16 2016 at 11:23 PM Rating: Good
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Yeah. There are a lot of people talking right now about how Pokemon Go is affecting everything. People getting out of the house, socializing IRL, going to smaller stores/restaurants because they're pokestops, etc, and how that's changing everything.

That's probably an incredibly short term thing though. The popularity is probably going to fade pretty quickly and when it does most people are going to go back to their previous routines and habits. Years from now people are probably going to look back at the "2016 summer of Pokemon" as an interesting social experiment, not as some fundamental change to society.
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#56 Jul 16 2016 at 11:29 PM Rating: Good
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Maybe for Pokemon Go, but for AR games this is only the beginning. Rumor has it they're already working on a Game of Thrones equivalent to Pokemon Go.
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#57 Jul 17 2016 at 2:38 AM Rating: Good
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Do you just collect a pile of skulls or something? Gotta behead them all?
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#58 Jul 17 2016 at 8:07 PM Rating: Good
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Apparently this guy's face was smashed in. Literally.

So the guy takes a knee to the face, gets his skull fractured, and to top it all off, gets captured.

Definitely not his day.
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After playing for a weekend, this checks out:

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#60 Jul 17 2016 at 9:55 PM Rating: Good
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Ha ha, seriously. Sitting at home right now I just opened my map and it has 4 pidgies, 3 weedles, a ratata, and a spearow.
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#61 Jul 17 2016 at 10:10 PM Rating: Good
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Ya, I see a lot of Ratata and Pidgeys. I caught a Spearow at the post office when I went to pick up a package.

Then today I went to my grandmothers, and outside her house (a few miles away from me, still sparsely populated) I found a Venomoth (185 CP, took over 12 tries to catch) and an Eevee (one shot).

Still haven't actually battled anything. Seems like I should be able to battle these wild pokemon, I only played the first couple generations of the game, but I seem to remember tall grass and wild pokemon fights.

Still level 4. Only hit up about a dozen pokestops, some on the first day around work, and then the other day when I went to the post office there were a couple around it and the Library.
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I think you only fight at the gyms. I haven't tried it yet because I just hit level five recently (six now) and the gyms I've been near I was with my wife and didn't want to hang her up waiting on me as I tried to figure it out. Plus, I of course assume that I'll meet crushing defeat whereas I can pretend that I'm awesome by catching endless Pidgeys.

Video aside, I've got a small menagerie including Nidoran, Venonat, Meowth, Psyduck, Abra, Eevee, Lickitung and others. I was amused to get to our usual breakfast dive this morning and find an Exeggcute haunting the parking lot. While in the car today, we were stopped at a light and I saw one of those sea horse thingies on my map next to me but the app was being a bitch and wouldn't register me trying to engage it (I wasn't driving). I'm writing a letter to my Congressman about it right now.
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#63 Jul 17 2016 at 11:10 PM Rating: Good
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It's actually much, much easier to attack a gym than it is to defend one.

Even if you have nothing but pokemon with low CP, your odds of winning against a gym are always in your favor. For starters, when you defend a gym, you can only put in 1 pokemon per person to defend it, whereas each person attacking the gym can use up to 6. There also does not seem to be any limit to how many people can attack the gym at the same time.

Let's say you have team A defending gym with 3 people. Each one puts in their strongest pokemon to defend it. Now team B comes along with 3 people as well, but all 3 of them can attack at the same time, with 6 pokemon each. So basically it becomes a 3 vs 1 battle, and 18 vs 3 overall. So even if you leave a godlike Snorlax with 2500 CP, it will only stay there until someone from another team bothers to take it down with whatever hodge-podge of level 500 pidgeots they have. ****, even if you and 5 other people put all your best pokemon up to defend a gym, all it takes is one person with semi-good pokemon to tear it all down. It's kind of annoying, because it feels kind of pointless battling gyms when it's so easy for them to turn over like that.

One other thing I've noticed that is kind of ****** is how certain pokemon are much, much stronger than others, regardless of CP and type advantage. For instance, if you have all 3 elemental eevees final forms, you will begin to notice that Vaporeon is way stronger than the others, even if they're all the same level. Vaporeon has much more base HP than the other two, and can attack at a much faster rate. In any other pokemon game, there is no reason at all a Vaporeon should be able to take on a Jolteon twice its level and win, given electric is super effective against water-- but no, for some reason Vaporeon in this game has been made to have this huge advantage.

Having found this, I have been completely neglecting my other pokemon and strictly leveling my two vaporeons using all my stardust on them and nothing else. Max HP and attack speed seem to be the only two things that really matter in this game, and you can't even tell what their attack speed is until you try it out in battle.
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#64 Jul 17 2016 at 11:12 PM Rating: Good
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Oh yeah. The game was just released in Canada today-- so now everyone up there is playing the game and contributing to the servers being overloaded-- in case anyone was wondering why the servers are so ****** today.
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There also does not seem to be any limit to how many people can attack the gym at the same time.

Let's say you have team A defending gym with 3 people. Each one puts in their strongest pokemon to defend it. Now team B comes along with 3 people as well, but all 3 of them can attack at the same time, with 6 pokemon each.

This implies a level of coordination I will never put into the game.

Which is also why I think the popularity will crest relatively soon. You have a ton of people who are just like "Haha, look at that screenshot of a Meowth next to his cat" and downloading the game. Once the novelty of seeing Weedles wears off and you're expected to "do things", I see the game getting set aside by a lot of people.

That said, I was amused to see that my usual lunch spot is a Gym so I'll have to try lobbing some Pokemon at it 'cause what else am I gonna do with them.
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#66 Jul 18 2016 at 10:52 PM Rating: Good
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Well that was kind of fun. Earlier my brother and I found a weakened gym and took it over in the name of Team Mystic. Then a few more people from Mystic showed up and we fortified it a little bit.

And then about 10 minutes later a couple of guys from Instinct came by and demolished us in like 30 seconds and put up a couple of 2100 CP snorlaxes, and that was the end of that. Still a fun experience though.
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#67 Jul 19 2016 at 10:30 AM Rating: Good
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I'm hoping in the near future they will address how easy it is to flip gyms and make it at least a little more balanced. At this point it doesn't really matter how strong your pokemon have or how many people you roll with when ONE GUY with crappy pokemon is all it takes to bring down pretty much any gym no matter how long the other team worked on it.

Seriously. You could leave a magikarp with 10 CP at a gym and it wouldn't last any less than your best 2k Lapras. It's just a matter of time before someone from a rival team shows up either way.
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I just noticed that I have a medal "Youngster: Caught 3 Rattata!" stuck at 2/3.

Hey, Pokemon: GO! I'm pretty sure I've caught at least three Rattata by now! Smiley: mad
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#69 Jul 19 2016 at 11:57 AM Rating: Good
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I'm hoping in the near future they will address how easy it is to flip gyms and make it at least a little more balanced. At this point it doesn't really matter how strong your pokemon have or how many people you roll with when ONE GUY with crappy pokemon is all it takes to bring down pretty much any gym no matter how long the other team worked on it.

Are we playing the same game? I'd like to see it be more balanced the other way.

I get that higher level people have higher level pokemon and that 2000 CP Vaporeon guarding the gym is going to crush my puny 600 CP Hypno. On the other hand I get annoyed knowing that when I see a gym filled with 1500+ CP pokemon I can't even make a dent in it. It'd be nice if lower level players could help out, even if only a little bit.
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Just how low are all of your pokemon, exactly? You get to use 6 pokemon every time you challange a gym. If you can beat just one of theirs at a time you are effectively soloing that gym back down to level 0. At level 20 you can find and catch 1000-1500+ pokemon without any need to power them up at all.
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#71 Jul 19 2016 at 12:56 PM Rating: Good
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And that's great, but I'm only level 10 and my highest level pokemon are only in the 4-600 range. My strongest team can barely even dent a 2k snorelax.
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Ok. So you're saying you want it balanced more so that a CP 600 pokemon has a better chance against something nearly four times its power?
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I believe she's saying that she wishes lower level players could contribute more to gym fights so they had something else to do besides catching rats until they're level 20. Especially as the game ages and the gap between casual players and more heavily involved players increases. And she doesn't find, in her experience, beating on high CP Pokemon to be fruitful (and thus, not enjoyable).

There's several ways that could be handled but it would be in their interest to think about it before the game gets a reputation for not being worth playing if you weren't on the ground floor or willing to spend tons of time trying to catch up.
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#74 Jul 19 2016 at 5:14 PM Rating: Good
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I believe she's saying that she wishes lower level players could contribute more to gym fights so they had something else to do besides catching rats until they're level 20. Especially as the game ages and the gap between casual players and more heavily involved players increases. And she doesn't find, in her experience, beating on high CP Pokemon to be fruitful (and thus, not enjoyable).

Exactly.

I don't expect my lower level pokemon to single handedly bring down a higher level gym, and I'm not asking for that. I'm just annoyed that I can't contribute to the effort at all. I wish I could contribute even in some small way, rather than looking at a high level gym, saying "oh well", and going back to catching pidgies.
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I think a solution involves tiering the gyms, or something similar in effect.
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Jophiel wrote:
I believe she's saying that she wishes lower level players could contribute more to gym fights so they had something else to do besides catching rats until they're level 20. Especially as the game ages and the gap between casual players and more heavily involved players increases. And she doesn't find, in her experience, beating on high CP Pokemon to be fruitful (and thus, not enjoyable).

Exactly.

I don't expect my lower level pokemon to single handedly bring down a higher level gym, and I'm not asking for that. I'm just annoyed that I can't contribute to the effort at all. I wish I could contribute even in some small way, rather than looking at a high level gym, saying "oh well", and going back to catching pidgies.


1. Find eevees. They are fairly common. You only need 25 candies to evolve them, and get 3 for each eevee you catch, 1 for each one you transfer.
2. Name the strongest Eevee you find "Rainer" to ensure it evolves into Vaporeon
3. Evolve that eevee. You can now change its name to whatever you want.
4. Put ALL of your stardust on this one pokemon until it won't let you put any more on it for your level.
5. Get more Vaporeons.

The lowest CP I've ever seen an eevee once its evolved is 500. With this, you can effectively bring down any gym with pokemon up to 3 times your strength due to Vaporeons insane amounts of base HP and attack speed (provided the gym you are attacking isn't defended by stronger Vaporeons-- even so, defending AI controlled pokemon don't attack as quickly as player controlled ones so you can still beat them.)

Should your Vaporeon go down for whatever reason during the fight, you can still use 5 of your other pokemon to finish it off. Whenever you battle a gym, you get to use 6 pokemon against 1. Even if that gym has more than one pokemon, all that matters is defeating at least on of theirs to lower its level. Then you can simply heal them and repeat the process until the gym is yours. The gym could have 7 people defending it and it wouldn't matter because you can pick them off one at a time in 6 vs 1 battles.
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#78 Jul 20 2016 at 2:26 PM Rating: Good
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Pretty much. Apparently someone did some data mining on the game files and found that Vaporeon scales more or less on par with the game's event-only legendary pokemon. Maybe that will be adjusted in the future.

Edited, Jul 20th 2016 8:30pm by Kuwoobie
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Yeah, that's a definite fault with the game.
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#80 Jul 26 2016 at 10:34 PM Rating: Good
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This is the most insanely helpful thing ever.

https://pokebliss.com/

It was actually developed by a guy right here in my town. There are several similar apps/sites but this is the best one by far.

Basically it scans the area near you, or wherever you choose, and shows you exactly where all the pokemon are-- as well as pokestops and gyms, and what team holds said gyms. It also displays the amount of time remaining before the pokemon despawns.
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We are trying to make things better, please check back later.

That's much better than the other tracking sites! Smiley: grin

The other tracking sites I've tried weren't very impressive. I'd be at my desk with a critter in catching distance but the sites showed nothing by my house. Really, the only interest I have in such a site is at work where I sometimes see a fairly rare Pokemon pop up on my tracking but I can't go wandering for 20 minutes looking for it. If I could walk right to where it was, it would be handy. Or see that it's too far and curse under my breath.

Edited, Jul 27th 2016 8:19am by Jophiel
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#82 Jul 27 2016 at 8:38 AM Rating: Good
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Yeah it's having maintenance today. Those other tracking sites are garbage by comparison though, otherwise. The in-game tracker is completely broken, and was not very helpful to begin with.

I've been getting a lot of exercise because of the Poke Bliss radar app. It seems to scan a much wider radius than the other trackers and doesn't take nearly as long to load between scans. I'll frequently spot something really rare over a distance that appears to not be as long as it is on the map until I'm actually out running it trying to get there before the time runs out. It turns out pokemon don't hang around for more than 10 minutes or so once they appear, and the in-game tracker will erroneously report them as being in the area long after they're gone.

I ended up bolting out my door sprinting for nearly two miles this morning at around 5am to get to a snorlax I saw on the radar only to find my path blocked by a gated community filled with walls and wide rivers of run-off water. If I had just had more time I could have figured out the way from the south instead of trying to run a straight line from point A to point B. Upon arriving home I noticed an Exeggutor had spawned in nearly the exact same spot the Snorlax did. Apparently gated communities and golf courses get all the best pokemon.

My only complaint about the radar app is the fact that you can't filter out specific pokemon from the search results, and the immediate area ends up being obscured by crowds of pidgeys and ratatas. I imagine they might be adding that today though givent he maintenance.
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Credit where due, the site tracked an Electrobuzz a block or so from my house last night and me and my son, who both lacked electric types, went out and it was where advertised.
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Also, what's up with this game still being basically as buggy as the day it launched? Tracking still broken, still get lock-ups when capturing, Pokestops often don't work (either blank circle, a "locked" circle or spinning does nothing), I get game freezes when trying to fight in a gym, etc.

Not that I've been interested in spending any money yet but asking for money for a Pokeball seems a little presumptuous when there's a good chance the game will lock up anyway once you put a critter in that ball.

Edited, Jul 28th 2016 2:50pm by Jophiel
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I've found that Pokevision is far more accurate than bliss.
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Also, what's up with this game still being basically as buggy as the day it launched? Tracking still broken, still get lock-ups when capturing, Pokestops often don't work (either blank circle, a "locked" circle or spinning does nothing), I get game freezes when trying to fight in a gym, etc.


Tracking actually worked on launch day. So the game is now, in fact, more broken.

The rest of those problems have more to do with the servers than the actual game. During peak hours you will get that a lot-- which is something that actually has improved a lot since the earlier days when I could not use gyms or pokestops at all.

If you find yourself being kicked out of gyms constantly or they don't work, turn off your phone's wifi and let it connect to 4G by default and it should stop.

^ That actually fixes a lot of the problems most of the time.

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Saying "that's actually the servers" is meaningless. The servers are how the game communicates with the world. Poor servers equate to poor game. It's like having a museum where all the pieces are behind filth-encrusted glass and nearly impossible to see and defending it with "Oh, the paintings are really quite lovely; it's the glass that's impossible to see through" -- it's the museum's job to be sure they have stuff worth seeing AND that you can see it and you don't get credit for one unless you can deliver the other.

Always using 4G when playing. Game still runs like balls.

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#88 Jul 28 2016 at 6:35 PM Rating: Good
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The reason I say the servers are the problem is because whether or not they are functioning as intended is not consistent. They could be lagging one minute and be just fine an hour later.
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Yeah, that's not a vote in their favor Smiley: laugh
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Ha. I was just at my aunt's house helping her move some furniture. Imagine my surprise when the I see that the senior center two blocks away is twelve pokestops. Every single garden statue and memorial bench is a stop, all within like 100 feet of each other.
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I've found that Pokevision is far more accurate than bliss.

Pokevision returns basically nothing in my entire subdivision. Bliss gives a pretty accurate depiction of what's out there. I know from first-hand experience that Vision is missing 90% of what's around me.

On the other hand, Vision actually loads up whereas Bliss has been down for days.
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#92 Jul 30 2016 at 5:34 PM Rating: Good
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So apparently the fix for the three-step glitch is... to remove the steps entirely.

And they wonder why people use outside apps to help find pokemon instead of just wandering around aimlessly.
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Apparently they killed all the outside apps today... so that's done too. No more PokeBliss or PokeVision or any of that.
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#94 Jul 31 2016 at 12:08 PM Rating: Good
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Well that sucks. Why even bother having the radar if there's no way to track anything down with it? Just knowing that there's a slowpoke somewhere within half a mile of me means absolutely nothing if there's no way to find it besides randomly tripping over it.
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I'm really starting to feel disappointed with Pokemon Go. It is so hugely popular and has so much potential-- but that potential is being wasted. It's like Minecraft all over again. Maybe they'll get bought out by Microsoft so they can proceed to continue doing nothing at all to improve the game.
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I'm still having fun. I mostly just wander around catching whatever I come across anyway so this change doesn't have a huge impact on me.

I just find it very odd that they've completely removed the tracking mini-game with no explanation and are pretending like it was supposed to be this way all along. That's straight up bad communication and it's not surprising that people are unhappy about it.
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#97 Jul 31 2016 at 4:59 PM Rating: Excellent
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Sounds as though they killed the 3rd party trackers for good.

I still have fun with it but it has baffling issues and I can't imagine spending a dime of real money on it (which is what they want of course).
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#98 Jul 31 2016 at 8:57 PM Rating: Good
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I've spent a decent amount of real money on the game so far. I regret buying pokeballs, though. A few hours at a nearby park filled with stops is all it takes to completely fill my inventory.

It's hard to *not* buy incubators. I hate running around town with eggs that aren't being hatched. Hatching eggs seems to be the best way to go when it comes to any aspect of the game: Strong/rare pokemon, star dust, exp and candy all at one. We are planning on buying bicycles for each member of our family soon. I guess that kind of counts as spending towards the game given it's the reason we're buying them. I have also spent quite a bit on increasing the size of my inventory.
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#99 Jul 31 2016 at 9:09 PM Rating: Good
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An FYI, biking is wildly inaccurate when it comes to egg hatching. I do a decent amount of biking and sometimes it takes ages to hatch even a 2k egg.

True story: yesterday I started incubating a 2k egg right as I got on my bike and left my house. It finally hatched around 7k later.
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#100 Jul 31 2016 at 9:19 PM Rating: Good
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Hatching seems to work like that regardless, though. I could be in a car creeping at 12mph or walking and it's as if it silently records bits and pieces of the distance traveled below a certain speed then awards it to us in intervals after the fact. Most of my eggs hatch after I've been sitting at my desk at home for 20 minutes after a walk.
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#101 Jul 31 2016 at 9:30 PM Rating: Excellent
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Hatching is horribly inaccurate. This guy ran 12km and the game registered 2.2km

Which, again, I can't see the point in spending money to buy incubators that don't even work. I just use my infinite one and whatever freebies I get for leveling up. I'm getting coins from gym captures but I'll put those towards increased bag space.
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