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Confirmed: Virtual Box may affect FFXIFollow

#1 Mar 15 2012 at 5:10 PM Rating: Good
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I'd been experiencing some very, very faint lag for some time now. It wasn't really noticeable unless I was staring at my character; it was a microsecond freeze once a second, almost like the old HID device bug but nowhere near as bad.

It's been bothering me since it started, like an itch I couldn't quite scratch.

A bit of research led me to an FFXIAH thread about similar issues, and the culprit has been pinned down to Oracle's Virtual Box.

As soon as I uninstalled VB and BOINC, tada, the lag stopped completely and FFXI is running at 29.4 FPS, steady as she goes. (BOINC is the application that used VB; without VB there was no point in having BOINC. It's used to run science experiments, in my case the Test4Theory LHC@Home program.)

So if you have unexplained micro freezing in FFXI or any other game and you're got Virtual Box installed, you can try installing it to see if it improves performance.
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#2 Mar 21 2012 at 9:17 AM Rating: Decent
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That is weird. I had both installed and never had any issues with it though. Was it happening when you had a virtual machine running or VB running? Or just anytime as long as VB was installed?
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#3 Mar 21 2012 at 5:35 PM Rating: Good
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In my case, VB was controlled by BOINC. BOINC is supposed to "suspend" the VB Linux machine used for computations whenever the system is in use. However, even when computing was suspended, or the BOINC client was completely unloaded, I still had the almost imperceptible twitching effect. The culprit is apparently the networking service of VB, not the graphics. BOINC likes to poke its data center via VB every second or so, even when the BOINC client isn't actually loaded. The services are still running in the background...

Of course, we all know that FFXI is twitchy about having its networking interrupted and tends to be affected by the oddest things on a system.

Simply unloading the BOINC client didn't fix it. I had to manually kill all the VB services and processes from the taskbar.
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Thayos wrote:
I can't understand anyone who skips the cutscenes of a Final Fantasy game. That's like going to Texas and not getting barbecue.

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#4 Mar 22 2012 at 12:20 AM Rating: Excellent
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Was virtualization Direct I/O enabled in your bios for your processor?
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#5 Mar 22 2012 at 1:44 PM Rating: Good
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Eeeee..... I don't know. I'll reboot and check and see if the BIOS has such a setting.
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I can't understand anyone who skips the cutscenes of a Final Fantasy game. That's like going to Texas and not getting barbecue.

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#6 Mar 22 2012 at 2:18 PM Rating: Good
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My BIOS has no options related to virtualization.

Also, after dicking around in the BIOS, my computer kept hanging on boot and I seriously thought I fried something. Took me 30 minutes to get it back up and I had to unplug half my USB devices. All your fault Kao! Smiley: bah
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Thayos wrote:
I can't understand anyone who skips the cutscenes of a Final Fantasy game. That's like going to Texas and not getting barbecue.

FFXIV: Katarh Mest on Lamia - Member of The Swarm and the League of Extraordinary Crafters
#7 Mar 22 2012 at 7:12 PM Rating: Excellent
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If your bios doesn't have such an option, your processor doesn't support hardware virtualization most likely. In which case you are going to be using software virtualizzation rendering, and potentially having issues.

Yeah, but at least now you know how to fix it, so is learning experiance!
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#8 Mar 23 2012 at 8:39 AM Rating: Good
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The fix is that I ordered a four port USB hub off NewEgg for like six bucks.
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Thayos wrote:
I can't understand anyone who skips the cutscenes of a Final Fantasy game. That's like going to Texas and not getting barbecue.

FFXIV: Katarh Mest on Lamia - Member of The Swarm and the League of Extraordinary Crafters
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