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Read my post again...WHERE do I say that JLo is a rapper?? Thats right I don't.

And I should have been more specific. Relating to your example of heavy musicians, do you relaly think people would be as accepting of a 300 pound FEMALE pop artist?? I don't think so..because female pop stars depend on their looks much, much more that male stars do to sell albums.

So why dont YOU try to SLOW DOWN and actually read what I posted instead of responding to something that wasn't said.


Edited, Wed Aug 11 10:46:27 2004 by XPinkPallyX

Edited, Wed Aug 11 10:47:02 2004 by XPinkPallyX

This whole paragraph is confusing as hell. Are you trying to say it doesn't take talent to rap? or that you consider J-lo to be a 'hip hop singer' (which doesn't really make any sense.. most would say she is pop or maybe R&B) who has her voice doctored, and it doesn't take talent to do that? Either way, since when is any of this exclusive to hiphop?

You may not have SPECIFICALLY said she was a rapper, but you still are confused. Again, hiphop artists don’t sing… so if you showed up to record a hiphop album with a bad voice, you’d do just fine. R&B artists and singers doctor their voices up to sound in good or to stay in key. I had that one part wrong about you thinking j-lo is a rapper, but you STILL think she’s a hiphop artist. Wrong… she’s a singer.



It's painfully obvious.

LOL and I'm not upset that its obvious. Thanks for noticing :P

Hmmm ok.....

So let me get this straight. You expect people to act like this: "Man, all the rap on these radio stations and t.v. channels sucks. I really hate all of it. Maybe I should go buy their CD's just so I can be sure. Heck, money grows on trees anyway."

You're an idiot. If the single is not a good indicator of what their album is like, then why did they put that song out? So people would go buy the album, expecting it to be like the single, then find it is totally different and be pissed off? Good thinking.

Sheep? Lol, you douche bag.

Edited, Wed Aug 11 15:33:50 2004 by Deathfromtheskies

That's what Staind did.

Pickle: thanks for clearing that up for me... i was dozing off here trying to figure out what 3rd grade terminology it would take to get my point across to these guys.


The point i was making is that the stuff you see on TV and hear on the Radio is not the best that rap has to offer... it's just what sells. I'm sure rock/metal/jazz fans agree that this plagues all genres of music... not just rap. If you listen to rock radio expecting to hear the best that rock has to offer, you're gonna be pretty disapointed when they start playing the same cycle of songs again during the second hour. I'm sure rock fans dont like when people judge rock music by groups like Korn and Creed... so dont judge rap by Nelly, Ludacris, and Little John. If you want to judge real hiphop, you need to listen to cats like The Roots, Mos Def, Nas, Rakim, Common, Wutang, etc.

You guys keep watching MTV and BET thinking that you're watching real hiphop... it doesn't sway me in the least.

good music:

sublime
bab marley
outkast
e40
paul hardcastle
george benson
jimi hendrix
beethoven

bad music:
too many to list.


uh, hip hop and rap takes an amazing amount of talent. tons of rhythm and lots of clever phrases. theres a lot of crap out there, as it is with every other genre. but you cannot tell me that eminem and ludacris dont say things that put a well painted picture in your head.

Felix Da House Cat is cooler than a polar bear's toenails.

The same stuff could be said about rock and heavy metal... and depending on your level of ignorance, you could even include some country and R&B in that category. If a kid gets mentally damaged because of rap, he/she deserves it... and the parents (who obviously aren't around much), deserve to have to deal with it.

we could argue about this forever. but would it be fair if i said all those damn guitar players do is drink peoples spit, and eat <fecal matter> and bite heads off of small animals, heroine cocaine, and worship satan? not exactly.

would you agree that there is a hard and soft rock and rap. yes you have to. softer rock tends to be more popular than softer rap, so perceptives are different. all music is a collection of emotions and experiences that the author has been through or can imagine, and in all youth, sex is a very popular activity, due to the hormonal balance and imbalance present in the teen biochemical makeup. a popular place to experience music is at clubs, where the sweat carries pheromones straight to the brains of the participant without impedence. so if the words of the song reinforce that feeling, then the song will become popular, sell more, get more radio play, and influence other musicians.

now, since hip hop is a groove based music, charged with rhythm, it does well in clubs, without nasty lyrics. when combined with promiscuity and the use of marijuana and ethanol, the effect is horny people with horny music doing freaky things. it makes money so it gets promoted.

its the same thing as angry music that causes mosh pits.

there hasnt been a lot of songs since the beginning of time that dont talk about the same things. nothings new under the sun.

sex(love included), drugs, violence, money/politics. any other songs out there? maybe a few about the beauty of nature or something. but not much.

Could someone post some of the 'poet' Tupac's lyrics so i may reposte with some rock lyrics.

That guy talks about good groups that plays instruments but listed D12 under rap. lol.

let me help you.

THE ROOTS!!!!