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#127 Aug 28 2013 at 10:51 AM Rating: Excellent
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Incinerate the lawyers. Lawsuits will be much cheaper then.
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#128 Aug 28 2013 at 10:59 AM Rating: Decent
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Not by the military prison system. Try to keep up and maybe reading the thread before chirping in.
Are we really deciding what counts as basic treatment on a prison by prison basis?
#129 Aug 28 2013 at 11:04 AM Rating: Good
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Not by the military prison system. Try to keep up and maybe reading the thread before chirping in.
Are we really deciding what counts as basic treatment on a prison by prison basis?

You ask a lot of questions that are already answered. Have you considered reading the entire thread, thoroughly?
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#130 Aug 28 2013 at 11:07 AM Rating: Excellent
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Are we really deciding what counts as basic treatment on a prison by prison basis?

On a system by system basis, absolutely. The military prison system being a separate entity from the civilian prison system. One of those things you sign on for when you pledge the oath and agree to join the armed forces.
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#131 Aug 28 2013 at 11:24 AM Rating: Excellent
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Right, your conversation is boring.

Can someone tell me why it is that a person who believes him-/herself to be of another gender is given a sex change, when someone who believes he/she can fly isn't given wings? I mean, seriously, why not? If I told people that I believe myself to be a peacock, people would call me a ******* lunatic, but if I told them that I feel like a woman trapped in a man's body, they'd pat me on the back and chip in for a sex change. What gives?

Also, if I do believe that I'm a peacock, could I get out of jail by having wing and beak surgery and demanding a transfer to an aviary?

Anyone?
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#132 Aug 28 2013 at 11:34 AM Rating: Excellent
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Can someone tell me why it is that a person who believes him-/herself to be of another gender is given a sex change, when someone who believes he/she can fly isn't given wings?
We can't rewire the brain to work in a more "normal" manner. So instead we rework the body to match the brain. Not the best of solutions perhaps, but given the high rate of suicide associated with GID it's much better than doing nothing. I'm also going with the understanding that the surgery is not a common treatment method, and many people never go that far.

Linky Never mind, they actually have the whole article available for free for once. Smiley: rolleyes

As for whether or not any of this is a treatment that should be paid for with taxes, well that's still debatable as you can see.

Also, if you can make me fly with wings stop holding out. I have hired goons you know... Smiley: mad

Edited, Aug 28th 2013 10:45am by someproteinguy
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#133 Aug 28 2013 at 11:40 AM Rating: Good
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I feel like a god in a mortal's body. So you science folks and tax payers get to work on those sacrifices at the very least.
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#134 Aug 28 2013 at 11:44 AM Rating: Excellent
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I feel like a god in a mortal's body. So you science folks and tax payers get to work on those sacrifices at the very least.
We're working on it. God module development is running frustratingly behind schedule. Smiley: frown

In the meantime I recommend playing SIMS, or similar games.


Edited, Aug 28th 2013 10:44am by someproteinguy
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I'm going to demand that I feel like a free man in an imprisoned man's body and they need to make my body match my mind or else they're bigots 'n stuff.

It's fool-proof!
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#136 Aug 28 2013 at 11:47 AM Rating: Decent
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Mazra wrote:
Right, your conversation is boring.

Can someone tell me why it is that a person who believes him-/herself to be of another gender is given a sex change, when someone who believes he/she can fly isn't given wings? I mean, seriously, why not? If I told people that I believe myself to be a peacock, people would call me a @#%^ing lunatic, but if I told them that I feel like a woman trapped in a man's body, they'd pat me on the back and chip in for a sex change. What gives?

Also, if I do believe that I'm a peacock, could I get out of jail by having wing and beak surgery and demanding a transfer to an aviary?

Anyone?
Okay, so here's the thing. Unlike someone believing they can fly, when a trans person says they are a certain gender, they don't just believe it to be true, it actually is true. Gender is not determined by genitals, or x/y chromosomes. It is determined completely independent of sex. Now, one reason a sex change is often necessary in this case is because such people ARE treated like lunatics otherwise. It is the only way to get society to treat you as they would anyone else with the same gender.
#137 Aug 28 2013 at 11:52 AM Rating: Good
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Prove Mazra really isn't a peacock in a human body. Or I'm not really a god in a mortal body.

Edited, Aug 28th 2013 1:53pm by lolgaxe
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I have hired goons you know... Smiley: mad


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#139 Aug 28 2013 at 11:59 AM Rating: Excellent
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Prove Mazra really isn't a peacock in a human body. Or I'm not really a god in a mortal body.
You may well be, I better stay safe. Smiley: tinfoilhat

Now if people with delusions of grandeur (or delusions of peacock-ness?) committed suicide at an alarming rate, someone would be paying people like me to find solutions for you.
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#140 Aug 28 2013 at 12:03 PM Rating: Good
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Got to love the Gbaji/Alma style slippery slope arguments. Are you going to talk about marrying goats and toasters next?
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Can I marry a goat if I'm a goat in a human body?

What if we're gay goats?
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Can I marry a goat if I'm a goat in a human body?
No. You're in the process of being digested.
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#143 Aug 28 2013 at 12:23 PM Rating: Good
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Now if people with delusions of grandeur (or delusions of peacock-ness?) committed suicide at an alarming rate, someone would be paying people like me to find solutions for you.
You scientists stink. My mild schizophrenia caused by post traumatic stress disorder causes a generally positive effect on my life and it doesn't deserve so much as a second look. Smiley: glare
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Now if people with delusions of grandeur (or delusions of peacock-ness?) committed suicide at an alarming rate, someone would be paying people like me to find solutions for you.
You scientists stink. My mild schizophrenia caused by post traumatic stress disorder causes a generally positive effect on my life and it doesn't deserve so much as a second look. Smiley: glare
Well we're always for hire if there's something else you'd like us to look at. $75/hour and I'll suck the proteins out of just about anything and fling them into oscillating electrical field for you.
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#145 Aug 28 2013 at 12:29 PM Rating: Good
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$75/hour and I'll suck the proteins out
Cheaper than a hooker!
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#146 Aug 28 2013 at 12:32 PM Rating: Excellent
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$75/hour and I'll suck the proteins out
Cheaper than a hooker!
We're cheaper than a disturbing number of jobs, that being only one of the more disturbing.

It's always good to know your value to society. Smiley: rolleyes
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#147 Aug 28 2013 at 1:44 PM Rating: Good
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I'll pay the $75, but I can't guarantee the hour.
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Can I marry a goat if I'm a goat in a human body?

What if we're gay goats?


Not in Russia!

Oh, snap.

Edited, Aug 28th 2013 10:26pm by Mazra
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I'll pay the $75, but I can't guarantee the hour.
That's fine, I generally try to multitask during these kinds of things anyway.
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#151 Aug 28 2013 at 2:21 PM Rating: Excellent
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Well you have to cut corners somewhere if you want to keep costs down, it's a competitive marketplace. Besides those government clients aren't paying out like they used to.

Edited, Aug 28th 2013 1:21pm by someproteinguy
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