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#1 Feb 15 2012 at 3:32 AM Rating: Good
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I want to search for fast weapon for training weapon skill up. However, there is no sorting option for delay only. Is there any way I can find weapon with the lowest delay.

Also, the sorting option "Delay : Damage", what is the purpose of this option. It list the result in the reverse order of "Damage : Delay" which in turn is the same order as "Weapon Efficiency". Seem redundant to me.
#2 Feb 15 2012 at 4:26 AM Rating: Excellent
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Weapon Efficiency is a much more involved calculation and will rank weapons slightly differently than the simple ratios. You can see the formula used on the following page: https://everquest.allakhazam.com/itemhelp.html

I agree Delay only would be very good, especially both high and low delay ordering.

Yther Ore.
#3 Feb 15 2012 at 4:43 AM Rating: Excellent
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Yther wrote:
Weapon Efficiency is a much more involved calculation and will rank weapons slightly differently than the simple ratios. You can see the formula used on the following page: https://everquest.allakhazam.com/itemhelp.html

I agree Delay only would be very good, especially both high and low delay ordering.

Yther Ore.


Pretty much what he said. I tried to add a pure delay search once and it really ended up not being worth it. I'll re-evaluate it, however, for you.
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#4 Feb 15 2012 at 4:54 AM Rating: Excellent
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This post lists some of the fastest 2HB for Monk, but the fastest listed is usable by most melee / hybrid that can use 2HB. https://everquest.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=1&mid=1296673084309083686#4

Yea, I will see if I can do a quick Wiki page just for practice weapons. I don't see much use for it other than that, and I like to search for high delay two-handed weapons for riposte disc usage. Although, I used to use a 20 * Dmg / Dly / Dly formula personally to find higher ratio, lower delay weapons for duel wielding or even tanking with 2Hers for better quick dmg aggro, but really that was just not worth it either, unless the straight dmg / dly ratios were very similar when comparing two weapons. I used to use the Weapon Efficiency calculation alot when it was listed on the item pages, as it gave a more accurate dps rating than the straight ratios. I'm not sure if it still does at the higher levels, 'cause I haven't used it since 70 was the max level, but prior to that it gave similar rankings as dps parses.

Yther Ore.
#5 Feb 15 2012 at 5:26 AM Rating: Good
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Thanks for all the replies. I was actually trying to search for 2hb weapon for cleric and necro, since it is not a popular option to wield and hence the skill are very low. hoping to get some low delay weapon to speed up the long boring training session.
#6 Feb 15 2012 at 6:00 AM Rating: Excellent
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Tae Ew Hammer of Aggression is probably the best bet for the Clr, but the Caretakers Shovel would work for both, just a bit slower. None of the faster Nec seem easy to get, if available at all. Shovel would also work, just less damage, but alot more common drop than the Caretakers.

EDIT: Wiki page started, but needs some more work. I left out Martial (H2H) weapons and Bows and Thrown items as well for the moment. It may not list easy to get items for specific classes yet, but I'll make sure to put some in for every class. https://everquest.allakhazam.com/wiki/EQ:Items_Practice_Weapons

Yther Ore.

Edited, Feb 15th 2012 8:35am by Yther
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