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#1 Mar 11 2006 at 6:51 PM Rating: Excellent
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A very trimmed down version of a two page investigative report from the Chicago Tribune

The Trib wrote:
WASHINGTON -- She is 52 years old, married, grew up in the Kansas City suburbs and now lives in Virginia, in a new three-bedroom house.

Anyone who can qualify for a subscription to one of the online services that compile public information also can learn that she is a CIA employee who, over the past decade, has been assigned to several American embassies in Europe.

The CIA asked the Tribune not to publish her name because she is a covert operative, and the newspaper agreed. But unbeknown to the CIA, her affiliation and those of hundreds of men and women like her have somehow become a matter of public record, thanks to the Internet.

When the Tribune searched a commercial online data service, the result was a virtual directory of more than 2,600 CIA employees, 50 internal agency telephone numbers and the locations of some two dozen secret CIA facilities around the United States.
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Several "front companies" set up to provide cover for CIA operatives and its small fleet of aircraft recently began disappearing from the Internet, following the Tribune's disclosures that some of the planes were used to transport suspected terrorists to countries where they claimed to have been tortured.
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Not all of the 2,653 employees whose names were produced by the Tribune search are supposed to be working under cover. More than 160 are intelligence analysts, an occupation that is not considered a covert position, and senior CIA executives such as Tenet are included on the list.

But an undisclosed number of those on the list--the CIA would not say how many--are covert employees, and some are known to hold jobs that could make them terrorist targets.

Other potential targets include at least some of the two dozen CIA facilities uncovered by the Tribune search. Most are in northern Virginia, within a few miles of the agency's headquarters. Several are in Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Utah and Washington state. There is one in Chicago.
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A senior U.S. official, reacting to the computer searches that produced the names and addresses, said, "I don't know whether Al Qaeda could do this, but the Chinese could."


I don't have tons to say about this except that I found it very fascinating and more than a little unsettling. Both that this information is out there and that what is supposed to be the premiere intelligence agency on the planet had no fu[Aqua][/Aqua]cking clue.

Edited to trim out an additional paragraph

Edited, Sat Mar 11 19:08:36 2006 by Jophiel
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#2 Mar 11 2006 at 7:19 PM Rating: Good
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#3 Mar 11 2006 at 7:46 PM Rating: Excellent
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Not all spies.

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#4 Mar 11 2006 at 7:58 PM Rating: Decent
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#5 Mar 11 2006 at 8:23 PM Rating: Excellent
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Those are all offical government sites though. The article is referring to finding the identity of covert agents or locations via other means.
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#6 Mar 11 2006 at 8:23 PM Rating: Excellent
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Don't believe everything you read. Decoys, misdirection, these are the tools that one uses trying to feed the enemy false information, and to protect your true assets. The real trick is to let just enough real information slip to give the rest of it an air of legetimacy.

Of course a percentage of your embassy staff is going to be undercover. It's expected. But those aren't the real movers and shakers. It's the Deep Cover agents that do the real work. I'd be very suprised indeed if you find any of those via an internet search. The CIA/NSA/FBI et all does those searches too.

We have one of the best intelligence systems in the world. The israelis have a better one, possibly the swiss as well in their area of influence, but on the whole there are very few countries that even come close. It would be even better if congress would have had the foresight not to pass that stupid law forbidding U.S. intel agencies from working with criminal entities after the whole iran contra thing. That, more than anything led to the intel failures that let osama and his band of merry men to get as far as they did in my opinion.
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#7 Mar 11 2006 at 8:58 PM Rating: Excellent
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Dread Lörd Kaolian wrote:
Don't believe everything you read.
Fair enough, but by the same token I have no real reason to assume that the CIA is about to say "Oh, sh[Aqua][/Aqua]it, you're right about our Super Secret Squirrel Status operatives being uncovered via the web!" either. And anyone can play the "That's just what they want you to think..." game about anything.

The full article, and accompanying pieces today about Plame would certainly suggest that, whether the CIA et al does these searches or not, they certainly aren't finding everything. The quiet deletions and information changes after the Tribune says "Hey, what about this?" would hint that maybe the CIA isn't as up on all this as we'd like to believe. And Occum's Razor would say that it's not all red herrings and false trails.
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#8 Mar 11 2006 at 9:10 PM Rating: Decent
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Oh, that we were still in a Cold War with those Soviet commie bastards...
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True, I'll concede that a signifigant percentage of those are probably accurate. People talk, they make connections, put 1+1 together and draw the right conclusions. I still stand by my statement that the people that do get leaked are almost entirely mid level assets, informers, or possibly analysts, people the CIA doesn't want identified, but most likely not anyone that's seriously going to impact our intel capabilities.

The CIA runs on red herring oil. Shell games inside shell games is the rule of the day, not the exception, and they look for parinoid people as a plus on their resume.

Edited, Sat Mar 11 21:54:53 2006 by Kaolian
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#10 Mar 11 2006 at 10:03 PM Rating: Good
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In other news, Reynolds Wrap stock plummetted 5 1/4 points today...


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In other news, Reynolds Wrap stock plummetted 5 1/4 points today...


... and cattle mutlations are up!

Bonus points for getting the reference...
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This is nothing out of the unusual. Cows turn themselves inside out all the time!
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And in still other news, let's make it illegal to report on illegal government activity!

Sandra Day O'Connor was right. We seem to be tilting headlong into a dictatorship. I'm just waiting for the day when Dubya announces that he can't leave office until the war on terror is won.
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I'm just waiting for the day when Dubya announces that he can't leave office until the war on terror is won.

They haven't exhausted the eligible Bush offspring yet. No need.

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I'm just waiting for the day when Dubya announces that he can't leave office until the war on terror is won.

They haven't exhausted the eligible Bush offspring yet. No need.



I wouldn't mind seeing Jeb Bush's drug addicted daughter in office or better yet, George's twin daughters..yummy!

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