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#327 Jun 22 2016 at 7:31 AM Rating: Good
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We'd be better off if we just used the kids from the genocide to feed the kids that need school lunches.
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#328 Jun 22 2016 at 2:44 PM Rating: Good
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So, pal, will this affect your presidential vote?
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#329 Jun 23 2016 at 9:20 AM Rating: Good
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I'm pretty sure he already pledged to vote for the party with the guy with the big black boot for a hat in the other thread.
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#330 Jun 23 2016 at 10:30 AM Rating: Excellent
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Hillary dropping the ball again. Smiley: disappointed

We all know Trump would make Mexico recognize the Armenian Genocide.
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#331 Jun 24 2016 at 3:20 AM Rating: Default
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No, because two years ago I already would not have voted for her. And also:

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But I think the free market of ideas, the academic community, the open architecture of communication that is even greater now than it was in the past, are the proper fora for this kind of engagement, and that’s where I hope it is worked out.


This from the candidate who believes BDS movements should be criminalized in the States and railed against. Which is already happening, largely by democrats such as that new Cuomo thing/person, and Feinstien's hubby. Campuses across the country. Etc. Yawn. Meet a humanitarian movement or democratic (voting system) nationalist government, meet a US government that opposes it if US companies can instead gain wealth via a dictator or training Honduras death squads, etc.

It's not that the US doesn't learn from history. It's that so far it is immune to consequences. So whatever.
#332 Jun 24 2016 at 7:47 AM Rating: Good
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So, Trump then, by default?
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#333 Jun 25 2016 at 2:52 AM Rating: Default
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What? I'm going to vote for Stein as I did four years ago and I was planning to do two years ago until Sanders entered so then I had a bare hope a corporate warmonger might not gain the Democratic Nominee and maybe poor people in this country wouldn't suffer as much and also brown people in foreign countries wouldn't die as much. So did my 74 year old mother btw. It's obvious to both of us that both Trump and Clinton are shit and as such we'll never enable them via vote. Plus we live in Cali so it doesn't really matter.

Wait--Are you replying to me? Was that your "gotcha" in your past post about Clinton re: Armenian acknowledge or something? What? GTFO with your mistaken assumptions. I'm a motherfucking progressive, Timemaster!! I feel it in my bones, I feel it in the wind. Won't you defend Helm's Deep? No? So who are YOU going to vote for? Grima Wormtongue? Saruman? If those are the only two choices, yet a third choice exists? Why do you refuse to vote for Aragorn? Tribalist trout, bream, and other fish. Go with the river, always with the river. Your direction is already chosen from people more powerful than you. PISCINE
#334 Jun 25 2016 at 8:24 AM Rating: Good
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Oh, I'm probably voting for Stein, since Sanders lost, since I have the luxury of not being in a contested state. I still disagree with Sanders on trade, but we were broadly aligned on policy, and he's not one of the "problem people" progs.
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#335 Jun 27 2016 at 7:42 AM Rating: Good
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Beer Stein?
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#336 Jun 27 2016 at 8:08 AM Rating: Excellent
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See, even if I wanted to protest vote, I couldn't vote for Stein. The highest office the woman has ever held is a town council seat. I need to ask myself, "If my vote was the only one that mattered, would I want this woman (out of all the candidates) as Chief Executive & Commander in Chief"? And... ummm.... nope.
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#337 Jun 27 2016 at 9:36 AM Rating: Good
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Protest votes aren't about voting for the best candidate, they're about causing trouble.
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#338 Jun 27 2016 at 10:32 AM Rating: Excellent
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Really I'd just be happy with a "none of the above" box. If "none of the above" happens to win we can just put a decorative fern in the oval office for a while and let the janitor sign things as a proxy.
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#339 Jun 27 2016 at 10:34 AM Rating: Excellent
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someproteinguy wrote:
If "none of the above" happens to win we can just put a decorative fern in the oval office for a while and let the janitor sign things as a proxy.
Pretty sure we did that for 2000.
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#340 Jun 27 2016 at 11:01 AM Rating: Excellent
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Protest votes aren't about voting for the best candidate, they're about causing trouble.

Mainly, they're about tossing your vote into a pit of irrelevance out of a delusional belief that anyone cares.
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#341 Jun 27 2016 at 11:21 AM Rating: Excellent
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Which ****** choice do you go with?
Vote for someone you don't think should have the job.:12 (19.4%)
Vote for someone who has no chance of winning.:7 (11.3%)
Don't support the democratic process.:26 (41.9%)
Stop paying taxes, grab a shotgun, and declare independence.:17 (27.4%)
Total:62
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#342 Jun 27 2016 at 12:16 PM Rating: Good
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I'm guessing there's something imprecise with those numbers.
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#343 Jun 27 2016 at 12:36 PM Rating: Excellent
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Given I don't think we've had 59 people show up here in the last 3 months I'm inclined to agree with you.

Either that or maybe there's already a poll in the thread perhaps? Thought it just to let you not make another one in that case though. Oh well, broken forum is broken.
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#344 Jun 27 2016 at 12:43 PM Rating: Good
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We have 52 anonymous guests at the moment...

Plus Joph, Lolgaxe, SPG, me and Youshutup.

That's 57!
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#345 Jun 27 2016 at 1:11 PM Rating: Good
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Well, looks like almost 50% would abolish democracy to bring out their preferred candidate. Seems low.
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#346 Jun 28 2016 at 3:15 AM Rating: Default
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Except if any party gets 5% of the pop vote, they get matching election money. Even if you think Stein sucks, the Green Party still does have representatives locally, and that 5% if gained could go a long way.

Plus the current "deign to allow to debate" threshhold is uh, 15% or something. Gary Johnson is a lot closer to that in polls that bother to include him than Stein, so if someone polls me I'll lie and say I support him. I think I already said all this somewhere before. It's kind of obvious if you are aware of much of anything re: election rules and parameters.

Anyway, unfortunately due to election monies and debate rules, a little gain to acquire a threshhold can mean a lot. Not sure how horribly ignorant you are that you describe such as a "pit of irrelevance". Pretty ******* ignorant, I imagine. You might even purport that "a vote for Stein" is "a vote for Trump" just plainly, not even by state. Not quite sure how currently ******* stupid you are.
#347 Jun 28 2016 at 7:23 AM Rating: Excellent
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Sorry your butt is so hurt Smiley: frown

Hey, a few cycles back the Green Party got ballot access in Illinois which was supposedly a huge boon. Guess how many legislative and executive seats are being held by the Green Party today? Did you guess zero? Because that's the answer. They also lost ballot access because the one year was just an aberration and no one fucking cares about the Green Party.

But rock on with your matching election funds. What two times a hundred fifty bucks?
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#348 Jun 28 2016 at 7:47 AM Rating: Good
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Hey, those 450k votes Stein got in 2012 really showed everyone.
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#349 Jun 28 2016 at 10:49 AM Rating: Good
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What are we talking about here? Teenage transgender Armenians in favor of Brexit but are in danger of genocide in high school gym class due to using the Turkish bathrooms of their newly acquired sexual identity? Sounds complicated. Tell me more about your first world problems brought on by Facebook's 863 possible gender identities!
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What are we talking about here? Teenage transgender Armenians in favor of Brexit but are in danger of genocide in high school gym class due to using the Turkish bathrooms of their newly acquired sexual identity?

Plot twist: Jill Stein is that teenager.
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#351 Jun 28 2016 at 11:33 AM Rating: Excellent
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Totem wrote:
What are we talking about here?
I'm not quite sure either, but from what I've gathered:

1) A long time ago people in Turkey (or some other similar place with lots of sand) killed other people.

2) This was bad.

3) They need to be told this was bad.

4) We may or may not need to send them to timeout for 5 minutes.


Edited, Jun 28th 2016 10:34am by someproteinguy
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