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Anyone else find Obama's lack of emotion disturbing?
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I find your starting new threads on already existing topics to be disturbing.
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I'm not finding any Obama reaction in the link you provided.
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Sir Xsarus wrote:
I'm not finding any Obama reaction in the link you provided.


Exactly. Don't you find his lack of emotional reaction disturbing?
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I'm not finding any Obama reaction in the link you provided.

It does say that the Senate gave Obama $4bil to build rocket ships. Zoom zoom!
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My immediate thoughts and prayers are with the wounded and with the families of the fallen and with those who live and serve at Fort Hood.

These are men and women who have made the selfless and courageous decision to risk and at times give their lives to protect the rest of us on a daily basis.

It's difficult enough when we lose these brave Americans in battles overseas. It is horrifying that they should come under fire at an army base on American soil.

I've spoken to secretary Gates, the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, Admiral Mike Mullen, and I will continue to receive a constant stream of updates as new information comes in.

We are working with the Pentagon, the FBI, the department of homeland security all to ensure that Fort Hood is secure and we will continue to support the community with the full resources of the federal government.

In the meantime, I would ask all Americans to keep the men and women of Fort Hood in your thoughts and prayers.

We will make sure that we get answers to every single question about this horrible incident and I want all of you to know that as commander in chief, there's no greater honour but also no greater responsibility for me than to make sure that the extraordinary men and women in uniform are properly cared for and that their safety and security when they're at home is provided for."
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Thirteen dead? What the hell are you training your soldiers for if they get that kind of ratio against an enemy combatant?

Goddamn Texans.
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And although he may have a vaguely middle eastern name, when he filled out his forums to join the Army, he listed no religious preferences.

So if he was a Muslim, it's something he picked up after he joined the army.
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My immediate thoughts and prayers are with the wounded and with the families of the fallen and with those who live and serve at Fort Hood.

These are men and women who have made the selfless and courageous decision to risk and at times give their lives to protect the rest of us on a daily basis.

It's difficult enough when we lose these brave Americans in battles overseas. It is horrifying that they should come under fire at an army base on American soil.

I've spoken to secretary Gates, the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, Admiral Mike Mullen, and I will continue to receive a constant stream of updates as new information comes in.

We are working with the Pentagon, the FBI, the department of homeland security all to ensure that Fort Hood is secure and we will continue to support the community with the full resources of the federal government.

In the meantime, I would ask all Americans to keep the men and women of Fort Hood in your thoughts and prayers.

We will make sure that we get answers to every single question about this horrible incident and I want all of you to know that as commander in chief, there's no greater honour but also no greater responsibility for me than to make sure that the extraordinary men and women in uniform are properly cared for and that their safety and security when they're at home is provided for."


That's @#%^ing disturbing, all right. It says it right there. Obama eats babies.

How dare he include such horrible messages just to show up Ahhhnold.
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Thirteen dead? What the hell are you training your soldiers for if they get that kind of ratio against an enemy combatant?

The soldiers were unarmed, being in a facility for pre-deployment medical exams and vaccinations.
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publiusvarus, Posted: Nov 6th 2009 10:49am, Score: Sub-Default, [expand] Actually I was commenting on Obama's flippant attitude that was caught on camera before he went on. Cause you know I like to give a "shout-out" to my homees right before I go on national television.
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Actually I was commenting on Obama's flippant attitude that was caught on camera before he went on. Cause you know I like to give a "shout-out" to my homees right before I go on national television.

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the president thanked various staffers and offered a "shout-out" to "Dr. Joe Medicine Crow -- that Congressional Medal of Honor winner."


and the reason I started another thread is because I didn't feel Nobby truly expressed what went down. I can understand his "don't give a damn" attitude considering that's how most liberal democrats feel about this.

http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/politics/A-Disconnected-President.html
You know the funniest part of that link is the extreme weight given to the irrelevant local elections. /shrug, I didn't see any details or videos in that article, it was all just speculative foaming at the mouth. And given the BS that he was spouting about the elections, I have to say I think the writer has a pretty weak understanding of politics in general.
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publiusvarus wrote:
This story

You spelled "opinion column" wrong.
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http://www.chron.com/

Anyone else find Obama's lack of emotion disturbing?
I find you associating absolutely anything negative that happens in this country, really in this world, with Barack Obama, disturbing.

I think you are unhealthily obsessed with the man. Maybe jot down a note to bring this up with your therapist.

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I'm not finding any Obama reaction in the link you provided.


Exactly. Don't you find his lack of emotional reaction disturbing?


I know you're being sarcastic, but I said something yesterday that I think bears repeating here.

I, almost prophetically, wrote:
Any time someone blames someone for NOT doing something, it's usually desperation doing the talking.
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This story is about another crazed muslim going on a rampage and about how our president 'couldn't' care less.

No, you incompetent twit, this story is about another person going on a rampage. Not another Muslim.

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Majivo wrote:
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This story is about another crazed muslim going on a rampage and about how our president 'couldn't' care less.

No, you incompetent twit, this story is about another person going on a rampage. Not another Muslim.

Edited, Nov 6th 2009 10:16am by Majivo
It's about a MAN going on a rampage. Dam radical men.

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Just to get it out of the way, insert token comments about former presidents, goats and school books.

Now Varrus can smugly declare that it's all about Bush with us liberals.
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Did I blame Obama for this tragedy? That you think that's the same as saying Obama doesn't give a sh*t, that's what's disturbing.

And you, as much as anyone, analyzed W's reaction to whatever happened while he was in the office. Now you don't seem to care about how the president handles himself in these sorts of situations? Case in point; W flies on to a deck with the banner 'mission accomplished' that's been put up to signfy victory in Baghdad and you use that as a way of attacking not only the military strategy he had taken but his very intelligence. So yes when something terrible happens I am going to analyze how Obama reacts and carries himself. When he's giving 'shout-outs' right before he has to go on nationally to console and reassure a nation I find that offensive.



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And you, as much as anyone, analyzed W's reaction to whatever happened while he was in the office.

Hahahaha! Did I call it or what?

This isn't about Obama, it's about Varrus still being butthurt over Bush Smiley: laugh
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Majivo,

Don't you mean another man who happens to be a muslim?

Nidal Malik Hasan shouts "allah akhbar" as he guns down US soldiers.

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And although he may have a vaguely middle eastern name, when he filled out his forums to join the Army, he listed no religious preferences.

So if he was a Muslim, it's something he picked up after he joined the army.


Actually, friends and family members say he was a lifelong Muslim.
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Actually it's about liberal hypocracy. And their blatant hostile attitude toward the military.

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Actually it's about liberal hypocracy. And their blatant hostile attitude toward the military.
Yeah, that's really not evidenced here. But keep randomly grasping at straws.
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Actually it's about liberal hypocracy.

No, I had it right. This is about you being butthurt and feebly trying to lash out in your impotent rage at how Bush was treated Smiley: laugh

God damn, you're transparent.
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Don't you mean another man who happens to be a muslim?

Nidal Malik Hasan shouts "allah akhbar" as he guns down US soldiers.


No, I mean another person. Because his being Muslim had nothing to do with this rampage, except possibly cause him some cognitive dissonance because he's working for a country which seems to hate his people. Not that you can see that, of course; all the Muslims are basically the same to you.
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No, I mean another person. Because his being Muslim had nothing to do with this rampage


Well except for the fact that he openly complained about being discriminated against because he was a muslim.

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Give me a shout-out.

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God damn, you're transparent.


I know you're more comfortable with people being clouded in mystery. That is why you elected rev. Wrights star pupil.

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No, I mean another person. Because his being Muslim had nothing to do with this rampage


Well except for the fact that he openly complained about being discriminated against because he was a muslim.


Was he being discriminated against? Would be interesting to know. Obviously the guy snapped and crazy people can be found with any name, skin tone, or religion, but if there are actually is discrimination going on there's another problem all together.
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God damn, you're transparent.
I know you're more comfortable with people being clouded in mystery. That is why you elected rev. Wrights star pupil.

lolwut?
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if there are actually is discrimination going on


You would choose to believe there isn't any by default?

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Are you all right varus? your hilarious flailing is less focused then normal.
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if there are actually is discrimination going on


You would choose to believe there isn't any by default?


Innocent until proven guilty is usually how we operate.

Personally? I believe there most certainly is. Hell, I know there is just by family members I have in the armed forces who are racist. Being able to prove it is the tough part. Doing something about it is even tougher.

Justifying a mass-murder because of it is ridiculous, and thank goodness none of us (besides Varus) have tried to link the two yet.
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Was he being discriminated against? Would be interesting to know.

Honestly? I don't give a fuck. I mean, it's a good thing to look into after the fact and work to avoid but I don't care if they had a camel sit on the guy's head, he's still a waste of skin.
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Was he being discriminated against? Would be interesting to know.

Honestly? I don't give a fuck. I mean, it's a good thing to look into after the fact and work to avoid but I don't care if they had a camel sit on the guy's head, he's still a waste of skin.


Completely agree. Discrimination, like this guy's religion, cannot justify what he did. The guy himself was the psycho.

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What that the mass murderer was a radical muslim?


Do you think him being Muslim caused him to do this? If not, then you really have no reason to bring it up, as it relates not a whit to the incident.
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Justifying a mass-murder because of it is ridiculous, and thank goodness none of us (besides Varus) have tried to link the two yet.


What that the mass murderer was a radical muslim?

The causative relationship you're looking for here is that he was discriminated against and harassed (assuming that's true), not that he was Muslim. His being Muslim was an indirect cause in that it was the root of the discrimination against him; but the far more relevant cause is the behavior which discriminated against him. You're effectively saying "it was the black man's fault for being enslaved because he was black, not because the whites hated the blacks".
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I thought you, of all people, would recognize that this shooting is a liberal plot to cover up the news coverage of the tea parties.
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From what I read, and I unfortunately can't find that story right now, he was a practising Muslim. He disagreed with the war in Iraq and he got "picked on," I guess, for speaking out about it. He was going to be deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan and he really didn't want to go. He had asked to be discharged, but they were deploying him anyway.

He was to be deployed on Friday. He shot and killed a bunch of people on Thursday.

They aren't saying this is why he did it, but my guess would be that he did it because he didn't want to be deployed.

Here is a different story, not the one I read this morning. It would appear he did suffer some ugliness because of his religion. Not that it is any excuse, of course.
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Anyone else find Obama's lack of emotion disturbing?
I think it's disgusting that you would use a tragedy like this as an excuse to attack Obama. This was a disgusting act by an American solider on other American soldiers, and you use it to try and garner a political advantage.

Why do you hate the military so much that you'd use this as political fodder instead of respecting and mourning the losses of your fellow Americans?
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the fun part is that incidents like this happen on a weekly if not daily basis in Iraq and Afghanistan, yet pubes doesn't seem to care then.

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the fun part is that incidents like this happen on a weekly if not daily basis in Iraq and Afghanistan, yet pubes doesn't seem to care then.


That's because the brownies deserve it. They bring it on themselves. [:schooled:]
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That's quite a leap, even for your low standards.
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The only reason varus started this is that he wanted to be able to sound like Darth Vader.
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I find your starting new threads on already existing topics to be disturbing.


I find your lack of faith disturbing.
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I find your starting new threads on already existing topics to be disturbing.

I find your lack of faith disturbing.

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I find your starting new threads on already existing topics to be disturbing.


I find your lack of faith pants disturbing.
If you're going to use Star Wars quotes, at least do it properly and replace a word with "pants".
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Debalic
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publiusvarus wrote:
Brown,

Did I blame Obama for this tragedy?

Not yet. I give it...hm, you don't post on weekends...this time Monday, you'll have implied or outright stated that this was directly or indirectly due to Obama's administration.

On another note, I find your blanket assertion that any Muslim = "radical Muslim" disturbing. Expected, of course, since this has always been your stance, but disturbing nonetheless.
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publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
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Debalic wrote:
On another note, I find your blanket assertion that any Muslim = "radical Muslim" disturbing. Expected, of course, since this has always been your stance you're a fucking terrorist, but disturbing nonetheless.
Fixed for the real reason why.

Fundamentalists of any stripe, really, are morally, ethically, and mentally indistinguishable from terrorists. The whole "you disagree, therefore you must die/be shunned/etc." mindset really does turn a person into a waste of oxygen.
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gbaji wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
I find your starting new threads on already existing topics to be disturbing.


I find your lack of faith disturbing.


I already said that! Sort of.


Kids.
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