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#177 Dec 13 2011 at 4:01 PM Rating: Decent
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Umm, you do realize that there are organizations that aren't "countries" and that could care less about their reputations.. and that there are many factions that operate sole out of total hatred toward other factions.. You do realize that, right? No?
But I do applaud you proper usage of "whom".Smiley: tongue
And that is why it could actually happen.

I actually think a nuclear event is more likely than a chemical or biological attack; do you know how easy it would be to smuggle a few grams of uranium? You probably do not want to know.


Again these tiffs have been going on for years, and the possibility nukes and/or nuclear material have switched hands on the black market has been a reality since the mid to late 50's. Looking more specifically at our current time the collapse of the soviet union has almost guaranteed that there are free floating nukes, I would be surprised if Russia, or even the US could account for all of their cold war era nuclear weapons (bio and chem along with them.)

The fact is these factions have been fighting with each other for ever, and if using nuclear weapons as a solution was indeed a possible outcome it would have happened. Especially in places like Chechnya and North Ireland where conflict of territory, and religious influence has been raging for decades (in some cases over a century).

Again you are living in a deranged form of Paranoia. Nuclear materials have been available to these rouge groups for decades and not a single event has occurred where nuclear arms were involved.

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Smiley: lol you sound like some kind of global nuclear communist. Why don't we just supply all of the un-contacted tribes of Africa, South America, and India with a bunch of M16s to help them defend themselves?


You do know that Nuclear technology provides more than just weapons correct? Actually nvm you probably don't since that was the first conclusion you jumped too.


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#178 Dec 13 2011 at 4:18 PM Rating: Good
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I'm saying it's all crap. Bourbon, whisky, scotch, all of it. sh*t.


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#179 Dec 13 2011 at 6:19 PM Rating: Decent
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Nadenu wrote:
I'm saying it's all crap. Bourbon, whisky, scotch, all of it. sh*t.

Oh...my.

I don't think I want to know you. Smiley: frown
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#180 Dec 13 2011 at 8:30 PM Rating: Excellent
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Debalic wrote:
Nadenu wrote:
I'm saying it's all crap. Bourbon, whisky, scotch, all of it. sh*t.

Oh...my.

I don't think I want to know you. Smiley: frown

Vodka, baby. Smiley: boozing
#181 Dec 13 2011 at 8:49 PM Rating: Decent
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Oh, right. Vodka's fine, with something else. Milk and kahlua, orange juice, V8, whatever.
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#182 Dec 13 2011 at 8:53 PM Rating: Excellent
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Nadenu wrote:
Debalic wrote:
Nadenu wrote:
I'm saying it's all crap. Bourbon, whisky, scotch, all of it. sh*t.

Oh...my.

I don't think I want to know you. Smiley: frown

Vodka, baby. Smiley: boozing


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#183 Dec 13 2011 at 9:40 PM Rating: Decent
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The fact is these factions have been fighting with each other for ever, and if using nuclear weapons as a solution was indeed a possible outcome it would have happened.


I really almost agree with you; but what you seem to be missing is that time has not stopped and neither has the mindless hatred. You are saying, "well, if they haven't done it yet then it will never happen". You cannot present that as a logical fact; it is your opinion.
Why do I think that it hasn't happened yet? ..because the rest of the equation aside [not including the fissile material] cost a lot of money and takes some engineering skill to work with; skills and money: something that I don't think a bunch of underground fighter have in great abundance..
But the facts are: Countries like North Korea, Iran, and Pakistan are growing in both their development of these sciences but also in their destabilization on the world stage (in one form or another) all leading to an inevitable conclusion.. that the more time goes by, the greater the chances of a nuclear event.


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#184 Dec 13 2011 at 10:42 PM Rating: Decent
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no what i am saying is there have been rouge nuclear missiles around for the better part of half a decade, and that even amidst your pessimistic view on human society no Nuclear Attack has taken place.

Also the more time goes by the less likely a nuclear event will occur. I don't think you really grasp how redundant a nation or faction with a nuclear weapon is these days in terms of clout worldwide.

This isn't 1960, Nuclear weapons are an ineffective weapon offensively and only deter foes from attacking you.

If a nuclear strike occurs one or more nations will respond in kind. It is inevitable, and is why nukes are a useless offensive tool. If they were so bad the world would have stopped Korea from getting them, or China, or Israel.

Stop living in a paranoia of a problem that doesn't actually exist.
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#185 Dec 13 2011 at 11:28 PM Rating: Default
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Nuclear weapons are an ineffective weapon offensively and only deter foes from attacking you.


I understand your point; but you are totally wrong. Nukes are ineffective offensively? What?
Ok OK.. listen. Underground fighting organizations are HIDDEN so that they CANNOT be found (I do not say "terrorists" because you would probably start foaming at the mouth with THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS TERRORISTS, YOUR PARANOID!!!11ZOMG) and IF these people cannot be found there is no one to retaliate against... Do you understand the concept that borders on countries are as irrelevant in this modern age as political parties?

But; seriously. I hope you're right.

..and for the record I also think that the panic mongering of the Bush administrations were indeed completely hyped and engineered to create an atmosphere of terror in order to continue to grease wheels of the War Machine.. I have no argument for you there.
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#186 Dec 14 2011 at 6:06 AM Rating: Decent
Nadenu wrote:
Debalic wrote:
Nadenu wrote:
I'm saying it's all crap. Bourbon, whisky, scotch, all of it. sh*t.

Oh...my.

I don't think I want to know you. Smiley: frown

Vodka, baby. Smiley: boozing


Yeah, it's so delicious that everyone in the distilling process tries as hard as possible to make it taste of nothing.
#187 Dec 14 2011 at 9:13 AM Rating: Excellent
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By definition, in the USA, vodka is supposed to taste like nothing. Just sayin'.

No, really; look it up.
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#188 Dec 14 2011 at 10:40 AM Rating: Good
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Kavekk wrote:
Nadenu wrote:
Debalic wrote:
Nadenu wrote:
I'm saying it's all crap. Bourbon, whisky, scotch, all of it. sh*t.

Oh...my.

I don't think I want to know you. Smiley: frown

Vodka, baby. Smiley: boozing


Yeah, it's so delicious that everyone in the distilling process tries as hard as possible to make it taste of nothing.


Preach on, brother. Smiley: nod

If someone tells you that they like the taste of vodka, you've got yourself a pretty good gauge of their capacity for self-delusion.

Edited, Dec 14th 2011 11:40am by Eske
#189 Dec 14 2011 at 10:53 AM Rating: Excellent
I had some very high quality Polish vodka once. I was able to drink it neat because it tasted quite a lot like cold water. I realized how wrong I was on the second glass.
#190 Dec 14 2011 at 11:03 AM Rating: Excellent
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Eske Esquire wrote:
Kavekk wrote:
Nadenu wrote:
Debalic wrote:
Nadenu wrote:
I'm saying it's all crap. Bourbon, whisky, scotch, all of it. sh*t.

Oh...my.

I don't think I want to know you. Smiley: frown

Vodka, baby. Smiley: boozing


Yeah, it's so delicious that everyone in the distilling process tries as hard as possible to make it taste of nothing.


Preach on, brother. Smiley: nod

If someone tells you that they like the taste of vodka, you've got yourself a pretty good gauge of their capacity for self-delusion.

Edited, Dec 14th 2011 11:40am by Eske

Apparently you have never had Whipped Cream Flavored vodka.

Which is awesome in o.j.
#191 Dec 14 2011 at 11:09 AM Rating: Good
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Nadenu wrote:
Eske Esquire wrote:
Kavekk wrote:
Nadenu wrote:
Debalic wrote:
Nadenu wrote:
I'm saying it's all crap. Bourbon, whisky, scotch, all of it. sh*t.

Oh...my.

I don't think I want to know you. Smiley: frown

Vodka, baby. Smiley: boozing


Yeah, it's so delicious that everyone in the distilling process tries as hard as possible to make it taste of nothing.


Preach on, brother. Smiley: nod

If someone tells you that they like the taste of vodka, you've got yourself a pretty good gauge of their capacity for self-delusion.

Edited, Dec 14th 2011 11:40am by Eske

Apparently you have never had Whipped Cream Flavored vodka.

Which is awesome in o.j.


I'm okay with vodka in mixes, where all that remains is a slight alcoholic bite/burn, and none of the hydrogen peroxide taste.

Flavored vodkas...no thanks. Granted, I've only had a few, but with the ones I've had, the taste of the flavor clashes with/gets overruled by the harsh taste of the vodka. They don't seem to blend well. Raspberry vodka is all kinds of nasty. Haven't had whipped cream, but my inclination is to be wary of it.
#192 Dec 14 2011 at 11:11 AM Rating: Good
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I had some very high quality Polish vodka once. I was able to drink it neat because it tasted quite a lot like cold water. I realized how wrong I was on the second glass.


Give me a Glenlivet 12 year neat and I'm a happy camper. I especially love the holidays because my uncle is single in his 60's and has way too much money for his own good so he brings a bottle of 18 year over pretttttty much every chance he can. Free expensive bottle of booze yay!

As for the vodka talk, after my run in with vodka freshman year of college where I have no recollection of my friends driving down the interstate at 80 mph with my head out the window passed out, or the hour it took them to get me to go 100 feet from my car to my dorm room, I've never really drank it since.
#193 Dec 17 2011 at 6:56 AM Rating: Decent
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I guess I should remember to come to the asylum every now and then for my news. This explains why one of my professors suggested a hardware security embedded system or something as a senior design project.
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#194 Dec 17 2011 at 7:59 AM Rating: Decent
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Do you understand the concept that borders on countries are as irrelevant in this modern age as political parties?


Yeah, Bashar al-Assad is laughing at this while he plays soccer with Muammar Gaddafi's skull.

Borders have never mattered more. The idea that there's some magical new paradigm to "modern" geo-politics is a calculated lie. Everything's different! The rules must not apply. Not exactly a new idea, is it?

That aside, here are two important things to consider when thinking about this issue:

1. Iran poses no threat to the US. None. Less than Canada does.
2. No one cares about the lost drone.

There are interesting things going on in Iran for the region. This isn't one of them. This is the fear **** story of the week for the hawkish suckers. Khamenei's recent actions internally have the potential for long term changes, but **** it, he's not shooting video with a giant model airplane, so who cares.
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#195 Dec 19 2011 at 3:37 PM Rating: Default
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I think the most relevant thing in regard to Iran is going to come from Israel.. especially now that Iraqi airspace between Israel and Iran is supposedly cleared of American presence..
I would assume this is all carefully orchestrated rather than just random incidents of opportunity..

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/dec/14/us-will-leave-iraqi-airspace-clear-for-strategic-i/

..but I am also reading that Israel has no intention of keeping us in the loop about what they are doing involving Iran.
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#196 Dec 20 2011 at 9:38 AM Rating: Good
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why would they its not like they have actually been an ally of any real use anyway. **** Saudi Arabia has been a better ally then Israel.
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