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#52 Dec 23 2011 at 6:56 AM Rating: Good
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-Do you get equally ****-hurt when people say Happy new year on January 1st? The pagan New Year is actually Samhain (Oct 31st), y'know
-also, do any of you get normal days off work on Samhain and Beltane? Those are the biggest seasonal "holidays"; turning of the wheel and all.
-Do you get so offended at Easter? Do you allow your kids to do Easter egg hunts? I guess that's OK because the name of the holiday is so similar to its pagan name?
-When you are in a mall; do you tell your kids to turn their heads when they see a guy in a Santa suit?
- You people who are athiests and agnostic.. WHY do you even give a sh*t? Do you get offended by the basic "Happy Holidays" too or just at references to Christ?
I'm an agnostic, and I have absolutely no problem with Merry Christmas or any other religious greeting. I don't mind it in malls, I don't shun Santa. I think many people are like me. This war on Christmas that you hear about on talk radio is really overblown (surprise! something from talk radio is overblown). Yes there are hard core atheists who make a big deal about it and they really need to calm down.

Edited, Dec 23rd 2011 7:56am by Lubriderm
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#53 Dec 23 2011 at 12:11 PM Rating: Good
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Merry Christmas, you over-intellectualising bunch of ********
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#54 Dec 23 2011 at 2:45 PM Rating: Excellent
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#55 Dec 23 2011 at 4:15 PM Rating: Good
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You know that commercial for Jared Jewelers where a dude is showing Santa the jewelry that he bought for his wife? He shows Santa the jewelry, and Santa goes "She'll love it. Trust me, I know." and gives this big laugh.

I said to my fiance, "You know, every time I watch this commercial, I hear it as Santa implying that he had *** with the guy's wife. Is that weird?"

She called me a pervert. Smiley: frown

Edited, Dec 22nd 2011 4:36pm by Eske


IM NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO THOUGHT THIS TOO!


That's CLEARLY the way it sounds.

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The third option...

...was never going to happen. I bet there was a hypothetical option involving ninjas and dinosaurs too but I didn't waste time talking about it.

I don't really care about it and I don't give a shit if someone says "Happy Purely Commercial Secular Holiday!". I'm saying that the fate of the winter solstice celebration was in the Church's hands and they preserved it via linking it to Jesus. Hence, no matter how many knickers get twisted over it, Jesus technically is the reason for the season (although not especially as the church goers would have you believe). For that matter, I don't know how willing your typical southern state fundamentalist would be to credit Holy Rome with making Jesus the reason Smiley: grin

Edited, Dec 22nd 2011 7:07pm by Jophiel


The church didn't integrate them because it was that or wipe out the pagans, they integrated them because it was that or fail to gain followers.

The church isn't the reason that people celebrate the holidays. The people are the reason that the church does.

If the church hadn't integrated them, there's a very real reason to believe that we would still be celebrating them, as we do with plenty others. For instance, take All Saints Day. The church didn't really recognize the holiday until the 8th-10th century--but the festivals (once grounded in pagan theology, though that was no longer true) were still celebrated.

Integrating them gave the church more control. But the chances that they could actually eradicate these traditions was seriously slim. It was their own survival at stake.

If Christianity hadn't absorbed Yuletime traditions, they would still likely be celebrated. They just wouldn't be at all religious.

I had a history professor who was working on midsummer traditions. He believes that fireworks on our Independence Day directly derives from Midsummer celebrations. Originally, Independence Day was celebrated with massive bonfires, which was a hallmark of the Summer Solstice.

Though traditional midsummer celebrations are often still held in areas where there are heavily ethnic populations.

Edited, Dec 23rd 2011 5:16pm by idiggory
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#56 Dec 24 2011 at 1:12 PM Rating: Excellent
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The Church was plenty willing to kill pagans who didn't care to convert. Witness the Teutonic crusades into Eastern Europe against the Slavic pagans.

The 8th Century bit doesn't mean much. Christianization of Europe's pagans wasn't really complete until the 15th century when the last significant populations of pagans in Greater Lithuania were converted into the Orthodox church. In the centuries prior, there were plenty of pagan populations remaining east of the Elbe.
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