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#1 Dec 25 2011 at 4:42 AM Rating: Good
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So I'm not a fan of religion but I do enjoy Christmas. Some 'friends' said I was mocking Christianity by celebrating the birth of Christ when I was not Christian.

Personally I just think it's great to take a day to spend time with friends and family and exchange gifts to show you give a ****. I also think that Jesus probably was a good enough guy to be celebrated; I just think that's all he was.

Is anyone actually offended by non-believers participating in their holiday?
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#2 Dec 25 2011 at 6:07 AM Rating: Decent
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Non-Believers having any sort of fun or celebration during the Christmas season is a big ********** you and your baby Jesus" to those believers. Don't you watch Comedy Central?
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#3 Dec 25 2011 at 7:08 AM Rating: Good
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Or Fox News?


Any way, it's Sol Invictus today. You fucking heathens with your fancy churches and popes and crap like that! Smiley: motz
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Is anybody? I'm sure someone is. I'm not that someone though.

In the grand scale of symbolism in holidays though, Easter is more spiritually meaningful than Christmas is. Not that I care about anyone celebrating Easter either.

Speaking of, we were in the cab going to the airport yesterday when that "Do they know it's Christmas time at all?" song was playing. I told Flea "Given that much of Africa is Muslim, I'm going to guess there's a good chance not".

Edited, Dec 25th 2011 8:49am by Jophiel
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#5 Dec 25 2011 at 8:02 AM Rating: Good
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I tease Elne and her girls about Christmas all the time, since they are not believers. Now that the oldest is in partnership with a Jewish man, its even more eclectic for the grand kids.

Jesus was a Jew, so anyone can celebrate his birthday regardless of their belief in him as Savior and Son of God.
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Also, for an extra 2 cents worth, East if much more important as Joph already commented.

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#6 Dec 25 2011 at 9:56 AM Rating: Excellent
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After I gave up Christianity for Lent,(j/k about Lent, I never quite was able to give up anything for Lent as a child) I continue to keep Christmas out of tradition for the Children and family who still were believers.

My Ex's family were not very religious, but kept the holidays and my own family was a mix of believers and questioning faith, but my Mom got us together for a wonderful Christmas Dinner each year. During her last years, my mom refused to go to Mass each Sunday so I did not have to worry about making sure my girls had proper dresses to wear each year.

Now that she is gone, I have continue the Christmas Dinner with my Family and added Hanukkah this year for my future son-in-law. My Daughter is going to convert, before they get married, so I want to respect their faith too.
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#7 Dec 25 2011 at 9:56 AM Rating: Excellent
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Seems like believers would be happy about non-believers wanting to participate. I always thought Christmas was a brilliant marketing plan for Christianity, personally.

"Come to a Christian church! We get presents! And, oh yeah, peace on earth and stuff."

What kind of follower of Christ would NOT want people to want peace on earth?

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Jophiel wrote:
Speaking of, we were in the cab going to the airport yesterday when that "Do they know it's Christmas time at all?" song was playing. I told Flea "Given that much of Africa is Muslim, I'm going to guess there's a good chance not".

Did Hafid the cab driver know it was Christmas?
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#9 Dec 25 2011 at 11:31 AM Rating: Good
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Well, ****. Why should they get offended? They stole just about all of it from us pagans anyhow. The tree, the mistletoe, the gifts, even the date, pretty much all lifted wholesale from various pagan traditions. Pretty silly to be offended about non-believers celebrating when we came up with the whole thing in the first place.

Anyhow, may everyone have a:

Festive Yule
Merry Christmas
Happy Hanukkah
Festive Kwanzaa
Happy Festivus
Happy Wintereenmas
Happy Hearth's Warming
Happy Winter Veil

That's all I can think of. And, uh, if I missed yours, well then: Happy/Joyous/Festive/Merry whatever-it-is. Smiley: nod
#10 Dec 25 2011 at 12:22 PM Rating: Excellent
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just remind them that jesus wasn't born in December

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#11 Dec 25 2011 at 12:47 PM Rating: Excellent
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Well, there's a 1-in-12 chance he was. And a 1-in-365 chance he was born on Dec. 25th.
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Jophiel wrote:
Well, there's a 1-in-12 chance he was. And a 1-in-365 chance he was born on Dec. 25th.


I wouldnt bet on odds like that
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#13 Dec 25 2011 at 1:18 PM Rating: Excellent
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Jophiel, back when I was in Seminary, the one month we were told Jesus was not born in was December. That is if the birth accounts about shepherds in the field are correct. Seems the flocks are not in the fields in December in Palestine during the era he was born.
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#14 Dec 25 2011 at 4:43 PM Rating: Good
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I read somewhere that the "watching the flocks at night" indicated lambing season, making it March or April.
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Clearly it was a metaphor.
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I read somewhere that the "watching the flocks at night" indicated lambing season, making it March or April.

Could be. I'll be first to admit that I was being flip. In that "no one knows when" could mean "coincidentally on this very date..."
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#17 Dec 25 2011 at 6:47 PM Rating: Excellent
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Those bozos lost the War on Christmas as soon as they let Santa be its symbol

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Clearly it was a metaphor.



Or a euphemism.

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#19 Dec 25 2011 at 8:46 PM Rating: Good
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Remind me to stop taking this place seriously.Smiley: facepalm

Edited, Dec 25th 2011 7:51pm by Bijou
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Metaphorically speaking Bijou?
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#21 Dec 25 2011 at 10:00 PM Rating: Excellent
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What? Maybe the translator switched the verbs around, and the shepherds kept laying their sheep.

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#22 Dec 25 2011 at 10:01 PM Rating: Excellent
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Must have been scottish.
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It really doesn't matter, nor should anyone care how you celebrate what (to an extent). The US nation (on both sides)severely overreacts when it comes to religion.
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Well, sh*t. Why should they get offended? They stole just about all of it from us pagans anyhow. The tree, the mistletoe, the gifts, even the date, pretty much all lifted wholesale from various pagan traditions. Pretty silly to be offended about non-believers celebrating when we came up with the whole thing in the first place.
So, you're a pagan now?
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I'm really in it for the turkey dinner.
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