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#1 Dec 28 2011 at 10:11 AM Rating: Good
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Just built me a new PC i7 2600, 8GB DDR3 1600, 120GB SSD, front USB3 ports (not cause I need them, just cause I can). Windows 7 installed in 8 minutes...

Still using my GTS250 but considering I'm coming from an E4400 to an i7 2600 with an SSD the difference is just rediculous. I'm cold to idleing desktop in about 12 seconds (I'm sure that'll increase as I add junk at startup).
#2 Dec 28 2011 at 10:21 AM Rating: Excellent
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That's quite an impressive combination of numbers and acronyms that you got there.
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#3 Dec 28 2011 at 11:06 AM Rating: Excellent
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Yeah, I held off due to the price, but the next machine I get will have a SSD. Which will probably be in February. As I understand it the new processors are coming out in March, so I'm hoping there will be some clearance sales going on in Feb.
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#4 Dec 28 2011 at 8:52 PM Rating: Excellent
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Not bad! what motherboard and SSD did you go with?
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#5 Dec 28 2011 at 8:57 PM Rating: Decent
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You should have gone with a bigger SSD. I was taking a look at them today and there is just no way that 120 would be large enough. I've got about 80 gig of installed files now. Add a few games to that and there goes your space pretty quick.
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I was thinking the same. Maybe a second drive for stored files? Are MBs these days compatible with both types of storage drives?

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I was thinking the same. Maybe a second drive for stored files? Are MBs these days compatible with both types of storage drives?

Yeah, to the motherboard it's just a SATA 6GB/s connection, it has no idea what's actually hooked up to the other end of it so long as it accepts that same cable.
#8 Dec 28 2011 at 10:18 PM Rating: Excellent
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You should have gone with a bigger SSD. I was taking a look at them today and there is just no way that 120 would be large enough. I've got about 80 gig of installed files now. Add a few games to that and there goes your space pretty quick.
The only real gains come with the OS. The only gains to installing a game on an SSD is startup time, for gameplay you're better served by just getting more memory. I'd get an SSD big enough to hold the OS and programs I'm going to start up a lot (office, etc) and then put everything else on a normal hard drive. I don't think the price point on bigger drives is really worth the gains at this point.

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#9 Dec 28 2011 at 10:59 PM Rating: Excellent
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256Gb SSD's are doable. still more expensive than they should be, but in the obtainable range.

6GB / sec and 3 GB / sec SATA drives use the same physical connector. a 6GB / sec drive plugged into a 3 GB / sec controller will just clock back to 3GB. Honestly, SSD's are the only drive on the planet that can even push the limits of a 6GB / sec connector at the moment, but that speed boost is definitly worth it.
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#10 Dec 29 2011 at 1:34 AM Rating: Good
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I just ordered a new PC myself! (well, the parts for one)Got the i5 2400, 8GB DDR3 1600, GeForce GTX 560 Ti, that sort of thing. I was eyeballin' a SSD, but I really wanted to keep the price under 700 bucks.
#11 Dec 29 2011 at 2:11 AM Rating: Good
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The only thing in this thread I understand is the subject. So congrats, Yoda.

Edited, Dec 29th 2011 3:11am by Belkira
#12 Dec 29 2011 at 3:03 AM Rating: Good
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Belkira wrote:
The only think in this thread I understand is the subject. So congrats, Yoda.

Heck, you don't even understand your own post!
#13 Dec 29 2011 at 3:11 AM Rating: Good
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Allegory wrote:
Belkira wrote:
The only think in this thread I understand is the subject. So congrats, Yoda.

Heck, you don't even understand your own post!


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#14 Dec 29 2011 at 8:34 AM Rating: Decent
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MB = P8Z68-V LE
SSD = OCZ
Case = Thermaltake V9

There are better MB out there but it has everything I need and has room for improvement.

I have 2 TB of storage on 7200 rpm drives as well, the SSD is only for the OS, a few heavy use programs and whatever game I'm playing that month. Everything else gets installed/stored on one of the other 1TB drives. All of my user folders (My Documents etc) have been moved/remapped to one of the other drives, for example.

Case has top mounted HD docks, which can be handy but mostly I like the front mounted USB3 port and it's just the right size for where I keep it.
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OCZ SSD? I am so, so sorry for your impending loss. Keep good backups...

Should be a speedy drive while ti lasts though
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#16 Dec 29 2011 at 9:22 AM Rating: Decent
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That bad eh? First SSD, I've had good experiences with their other products.
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Anyone know of a good backup program? Something like rsync (linux) perhaps? Preferably free, not because I'm cheap, but because I could just use windows backup. I just don't really like how windows backup tries to create full backups rather than just transferring any new/updated files.
#18 Dec 29 2011 at 9:49 AM Rating: Good
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Belkira wrote:
The only thing in this thread I understand is the subject. So congrats, Yoda.

Edited, Dec 29th 2011 3:11am by Belkira


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#19 Dec 29 2011 at 9:54 AM Rating: Decent
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The only real gains come with the OS. The only gains to installing a game on an SSD is startup time, for gameplay you're better served by just getting more memory. I'd get an SSD big enough to hold the OS and programs I'm going to start up a lot (office, etc) and then put everything else on a normal hard drive. I don't think the price point on bigger drives is really worth the gains at this point.

SSDs also provide a substantial boost in performance for games that do a lot of loading from the hard drive disc. FFXI and Skyrim would be good examples.

Edited, Dec 29th 2011 10:54am by Deadgye
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Yeah, SWTOR loads ridiculously fast now and no slowdowns between areas. How much of that is the new processor and faster memory I don't know, but the loading screens are nearly non-existent now (it's the only game I have on the SSD so I have nothing to compare it too).
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That bad eh? First SSD, I've had good experiences with their other products.

I've personally never had a good experience with OCZ, but maybe I was just unlucky.
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Personally, I was looking at the 256 gb Samsung drive on NewEgg. It only has a few reviews though, so I'm a bit leary.
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That bad eh? First SSD, I've had good experiences with their other products.

I've personally never had a good experience with OCZ, but maybe I was just unlucky.

We ended up having to repeatedly RMA an entire batch of OCZ DDR2 ram sticks, all 100 of them for multiple failures. And then the RMA'd sticks. We've also had a 100% failure rate on the 10 thumb drives we bought from them about 2 years ago. I'll never buy anything they make again...

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Personally, I was looking at the 256 gb Samsung drive on NewEgg. It only has a few reviews though, so I'm a bit leary.


They just started making SSD's but early reviews seem decent. I went with a Crucial SSD for my machine personally, it runs great!
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#24 Dec 30 2011 at 8:28 AM Rating: Decent
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Unbelievable. The $30 mail-in rebate for my SSD is only redeemable as an American Express gift card...

I live in Canada. Almost no-one accepts American Express up here...if I hadn't spent so much time on this thing I'd take it back to the **** store out of spite.
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Unbelievable. The $30 mail-in rebate for my SSD is only redeemable as an American Express gift card...

I live in Canada. Almost no-one accepts American Express up here...if I hadn't spent so much time on this thing I'd take it back to the **** store out of spite.
Do you live under a rock? Most places take Amex. Aren't you in or near an actual city?
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Do you live under a rock? Most places take Amex. Aren't you in or near an actual city?


Yes I'm in a city and most places I shop do NOT take Amex. I'll be able to spend it obviously, I'm just **** about the ridiculousness of receiving a **** prepaid credit card as a rebate. I've used these before, they're a pain in the **** unless you spend the entire amount in one purchase. They don't work like a gift card you have to know the exact amount remaining on the card to use it up or they decline like a credit card that's short on funds. I still have a Visa one with a few dollars on it, I will never use it because I don't know exactly how much is on it. These cards are great for the credit card companies.
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Can't you go online to view how much is left?
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#28 Dec 30 2011 at 1:25 PM Rating: Decent
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Couldn't with the Visa one, you had to call them and it was a ~$2.50 charge to call them. I don't know about the AMEX one yet.
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Couldn't with the Visa one, you had to call them and it was a ~$2.50 charge to call them. I don't know about the AMEX one yet.


Then Canada is obviously fucked up.
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Perhaps, it's entirely possible all of that has changed since I last used one but regardless I can't put an AMEX card in my bank account so it's still insufficient.
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Turin wrote:
Personally, I was looking at the 256 gb Samsung drive on NewEgg. It only has a few reviews though, so I'm a bit leary.


They just started making SSD's but early reviews seem decent. I went with a Crucial SSD for my machine personally, it runs great!


That's good to know about the Samsung drives. I've had a couple Samsung HDs in the past and I've never once had a problem with them. I still use one of them for back up storage.
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someone buy me a zalman heatsink so I can actually go about oc'ing my processor :(
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Belkira wrote:
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Couldn't with the Visa one, you had to call them and it was a ~$2.50 charge to call them. I don't know about the AMEX one yet.


Then Canada is obviously fucked up.

This.

I can take a Visa debit card, Amex, whatever, with 3 dollars on it, buy 50 dollars worth of stuff, use the Visa and then owe 47 dollars. And then use my debit card to pay the rest.
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someone buy me a zalman heatsink so I can actually go about oc'ing my processor :(


1. Air cooling is never adequate for overclocking
2. See rule 1.


If you are even contemplating overclocking, invest in a good water cooling setup and make sure you cool the chipset and voltage regulaors on your motherboard and your ram in addition to the processor. Unless you don't really like your motherboard and ram, in which case, go for it. A basic rule is 500 watts of heat dissipation per 120mm fan size of radiator core. If you have a 1,000 watt PSU, you should have at least a 3 120mm fan sized radiator an adequate pump (or two if you are going to cool the video cards on their own loop) and a decent sized reservoir of treated coolant.

Performance-pcs.com is a good spot to check what is available for air and water cooling.

If you have something like a Haf X case with 140mm fans cranked up to high, you might be able to get away with a mild overclock on air cooling. but might is a funny word when it comes to very expensive gaming computer components.
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#35 Jan 01 2012 at 5:05 PM Rating: Decent
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Meh, I have a i7920@3.6 and a stock Radeon5850 and my stuff runs fine on air whether my fans are low or high. I have good airflow though with my Antec1200 case. Can't remember what I have my ram at, but it's probably higher then I should have gone. (3x2gb OCZ gold)

I'd definitely recommend water cooling, but just because you're using air doesn't mean you can't overclock.
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#36 Jan 01 2012 at 5:24 PM Rating: Excellent
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Not can't. Shouldn't.
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#37 Jan 01 2012 at 5:53 PM Rating: Decent
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Like I said.. mines running perfectly fine at good temps. Let me rephrase.

I'd definitely recommend water cooling, but just because you're using air doesn't mean you shouldn't overclock.
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