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I'm finding it interesting how much range, accuracy and quantity hamas was able to get out of their rockets. I'm almost wondering if we've found where that massive pile of russian made man portable SAM's that went missing from Lybia ended up.

A rocket that can travel a mile in a relitivly straight line with enough of a payload to be useful at the terminal end isn't particularily hard, but it does require certain things, like access to large quantities of propellant (homemade, probably tire rubber and nitrus oxide or something similar), lightweight yet strong pipe sections of some sort for caseings and rocket bodies, and military grade explosives for charges. Possibly a simple servo + heading hold gyro guidance system too ($4 worth of parts from China on ebay) but they've got too many of them, made better than their available assembly conditions should warrant for it to be just homemade inventory.

So, the UN voted for Palestinian statehood today. The US voted against & its my understanding it now has the same rights as the Vatican.

It makes me ashamed. I do not understand why anyone would vote against it.

Explanation I've heard is that giving Palestine more UN recognition makes a settlement between Israel and Palestine less likely. Somehow. Perhaps because then it makes it more likely that the Palestinians will use the UN as a vehicle to negotiate the terms of their settlement, rather than just having Israel and the US brokering the deal.

Makes me sick that Canada jumped on the US bandwagon on this. F'n disgusting.

51st state!

I thought that was what I said?

**** Israel.

Because two wrongs don't make a right and actions like this convert Israel from a defender of sovereignty to an aggressor. I don't imagine people would react so nonchalantly if the U.S. suddenly decided to declare a large swath of Canada connecting Alaska to Washington open for U.S. settlement.

I have no problem with Palestine going through legal international channels to establish sovereignty that is denied to them only by a handful of nations whose sole reason for opposition is either political, religious, or idealogical. There's no practical reason to deny the Palenstenian state.

Israel has been pretending to play for over 40 years. Its always the same thing. Israel does not wish to negotiate a permanent solution, and why would they. Up until recently Israel could call the shots with pretty much impunity. Yet over the last 40 years Israel has settled more and more disputed land and refuses to return to its 1967 borders. Israel has routinely cut the people of Palestine off from the rest of the world, segregating them from the greater Arab Community and literally fencing them in behind armed guard and restricting their access to the sea.

Numerous time Israel has marched into palestine and murdered thousands, numerous times have they instigated responses. Israel has no lust for peace, they want the land they deem theirs by destiny, and continue to take it through force (or display of force) and have been for 40 years. Israel is the proud holder of the largest free air internment camps in the world. Which is rather Ironic considering the stark similarities to pre-"final solution" internment of Jews in Europe.

Thats not to say that Palestine has not shown they wish to have a diplomatic solution either, they have of course over the years thrown the first stone. But Palestine has always lacked one thing, support in the world body. Throughout history Israel has been able to use the power of the UN to dictate its position in the Middle East, with traditional allies in France, UK, and the US backing them up. Palestine now has an equal opportunity to plead its case on the world stage through its new found ability to access the powers of the UN.

I also find it humorous that the US so adamantly condemns Palestinians efforts to establish their own nation, and attain freedom from the tyrannical Oppression of their local masters in Israel. I mean **** the US was built on a social/political revolution that resulted in a War. These people are referred to in history as patriots, today we call these people terrorists, and radicals.

How hypocritical to say Palestine didn't want to play by the rules Israel demanded they follow...for illusions of peace, still trapped behind a fence, cut off from their greater community, cut off from the world.

**** Israel.

I'd rather see them build houses than fire rockets. Even if the houses are being built with malicious intent, it's better than the alternative. It's like a large scale sit-in!


Edited, Dec 1st 2012 1:26pm by trickybeck