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#1 Nov 16 2012 at 6:03 AM Rating: Default
That's right 75% of the people who voted for obama are on food stamps.

This is the reason why anyone who is on welfare or food stamps should not be allowed to vote. If you can't manage to feed yourself you certainly shouldn't be allowed to determine who leads this country.
#2 Nov 16 2012 at 6:13 AM Rating: Excellent
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Looking online real quick (gotta love Google!)

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IF all food stamp recipients voted for Obama, that would be 75% of his votes


Oddly, you seem to ignore the fact that

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Children under 18 account for 47 percent of all food stamp recipients.


Kids under 18 can vote now? Smiley: eek
#4 Nov 16 2012 at 6:22 AM Rating: Good
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That's right 75% of the people who voted for obama are on food stamps.


Untrue.

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This is the reason why anyone who is on welfare or food stamps should not be allowed to vote. If you can't manage to feed yourself you certainly shouldn't be allowed to determine who leads this country.


Fascist.

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#7 Nov 16 2012 at 6:36 AM Rating: Good
Many of the people on food stamps are called "working poor" - they have jobs, but ******* like the CEO of Papa Johns deliberately keep them underpaid and under full time, so they don't make enough money to pay rent and feed themselves.

At 40 hours at minimum wage, if you have children, you qualify for food stamps.

#9 Nov 16 2012 at 7:07 AM Rating: Excellent
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You're a @#%^ing idiot.

And yet still smarter than you. That must make you reaaaaaaally dumb Smiley: frown
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If every one on food stamps voted Democrat that would account for 75% of all of Obama's votes.

Thank you for repeating what I said. Note, it's not what you said, which is that 75% of Obama's voters were on food stamps. Smiley: rolleyes It's numerically impossible, since almost half of food stamp recipients are under 18. I'm sure many of them (for example, the elderly living on a fixed income) still didn't vote for Obama.
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I'm curious have you ever heard of the drudge report?

It's that site that was run by that guy that Obama totally killed off by inducing a heart attack, right? Oh wait, no, that's Breitbart. I mix up the two.

Edited, Nov 16th 2012 8:10am by LockeColeMA
#10 Nov 16 2012 at 7:10 AM Rating: Excellent
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So because of someones poor life choices you would hold me at gunpoint


Sure. My car insurance goes up because other people get into car accidents by driving recklessly. My health insurance goes up because fast food is yummy and other people eat too much and have heart attacks. Do you think you live in a bubble, or a society?

And technically, I wouldn't hold you at gun point because I don't own a gun. But because a lot of people do, and some idiots like to fire them at other people, so my life insurance premium goes up Smiley: frown

But that's insurance. How about tax-wise? I don't want to get into wars, but I pay for them with my taxes. I don't like giving money to religious charities, but my taxes go there (thanks, Catholic Charities, grumble grumble). I don't like a lot of things about how my taxes are spent. But helping feed the hungry? Pretty ok with that.

Edited, Nov 16th 2012 8:12am by LockeColeMA
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you would hold me at gunpoint


Not for long, and not for money.
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#12 Nov 16 2012 at 7:28 AM Rating: Good
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That's right 75% of the people who voted for obama are on food stamps.

This is the reason why anyone who is on welfare or food stamps should not be allowed to vote. If you can't manage to feed yourself you certainly shouldn't be allowed to determine who leads this country.


No, your math skills are terrible. Also, denying citizens of the country the right to vote because of their financial status is completely against what your democratic system stands for. It's wrong, it would make a mockery of democracy everywhere, and could easily be comparable with past attempts in other nations throughout history to prevent people from voting based on their culture, religion, race, etc, none of which, were good things. In fact, they were terrible things, and your country(and mine) have fought wars to save and protect that right(among many other reasons).

But anyway, on to the part where your math is absolutely horrendous.

In 2012, 47.1 million people were on food stamps(most quotes I found said 46.7, but, to give you the best possible odds of being correct, I went with the highest quote I could find). Now, 48% of those were under 18 and hence ineligible to vote, so you have 22,608,000 people on Food stamps eligible to vote.

Now, Obama got a grand total of 59,621,436 votes.

22608000/59621436 equals about 37% of his vote.

Now, we all know damn well that not every single one of those people voted, so that percentage is even less, adding to that, that despite what some may think, I guarantee that a portion of those voted for Romney or a third party candidate(the votes have to come from someone, after all). We will also note that the only quote I could find with any great ease, as to the amount of votes Obama received was from the morning after the election with results still coming in, and hence, the percentage of food stamp votes in relation to the popular vote, declines further.

In conclusion, your statement that 75% of those who voted for Obama are on Food Stamps is very, very incorrect. You either have absolutely terrible sources, or you have no sources and just made a random assumption, but, in reality, you can't argue with math. Math, until you get into super-complicated theoretical physics stuff, is an exact science.

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Popular vote quote

So basically, you're dead @#%^ing wrong.

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Edited, Nov 16th 2012 8:29am by Driftwood
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I, for one, welcome this line of thinking. Anything that keeps the GOP from taking an honest and useful look at why they lose elections is fine by me.

Yeah! It's all food stamps! Also, people need to know that Latinos are all lazy and want Food Stamp Santa Claus to take care of them! You can't convince them to take control of their own life!
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#14 Nov 16 2012 at 7:53 AM Rating: Excellent
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If all the people who I don't think should be allowed to vote weren't allowed to vote, my candidate would win for sure! Unless they want to vote for my candidate, then I'll make an exception.

Edited, Nov 16th 2012 8:54am by Spoonless
#15 Nov 16 2012 at 7:56 AM Rating: Good
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crazylegz1975 wrote:
That's right 75% of the people who voted for obama are on food stamps.

This is the reason why anyone who is on welfare or food stamps should not be allowed to vote. If you can't manage to feed yourself you certainly shouldn't be allowed to determine who leads this country.

...and this is the reason why schizos should not be allowed to vote.
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#16 Nov 16 2012 at 7:59 AM Rating: Excellent
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...and this is the reason why schizos should not be allowed to vote.


Or people who cannot form a coherent thought. If you can't calculate percentages properly, you have no business choosing the leader of this country. 75%..... Good grief.

Edited, Nov 16th 2012 9:00am by Torrence
#17 Nov 16 2012 at 8:03 AM Rating: Default
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Torrence wrote:
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...and this is the reason why schizos should not be allowed to vote.


Or people who cannot form a coherent thought. If you can't calculate percentages properly, you have no business choosing the leader of this country. 75%..... Good grief.

I disagree. Everyone should be allowed to vote, regardless of anything other than age(that is, being under 18, one of the few times I agree with an age limit for something). Those who aren't schizos and those who can do math vastly outnumber those who are and can't(respectively)...I hope...
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#18 Nov 16 2012 at 8:33 AM Rating: Good
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It's clear you don't have a working knowledge of fascism.
It's clear you don't have any working knowledge at all.
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Not for long, and not for money.


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Now, Obama got a grand total of 59,621,436 votes.

22608000/59621436 equals about 37% of his vote.

Now, we all know damn well that not every single one of those people voted, so that percentage is even less, adding to that, that despite what some may think, I guarantee that a portion of those voted for Romney or a third party candidate(the votes have to come from someone, after all). We will also note that the only quote I could find with any great ease, as to the amount of votes Obama received was from the morning after the election with results still coming in, and hence, the percentage of food stamp votes in relation to the popular vote, declines further.


22,608,000 * 57.5% turnout = 12,999,600
12,999,600 * 63% of the lower income vote = 8,190,000 "food stamp votes".

versus the 4,800,000 "food stamp votes" for Romney.

Of course with no idea how the poor people on food stamps differed from other poor people it's hard to say much. You could assume that perhaps without the food stamps (and likely other programs driven at the poor, but let's not complicate things) the results might be closer to 50%. Half would be about 6.5M, and subtracted from the 8.2M "food stamp for Obama" votes that would be a net of about 1.7M votes.

1.7M / 59.6M = 2.8% or so.

Now here's the fun part...

If you take those 1.7M votes away from Obama and give them to Romney then his total goes up to 60.3M compared to 60.2M for Obama and the Republicans win the popular vote!!

CLEARLY THEY STOLE THE ELECTION BY BUYING OFF THE POOR!!
Smiley: tinfoilhat

Smiley: rolleyes

Yes I know, I'll go get a life now...

Edited, Nov 16th 2012 9:08am by someproteinguy
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CLEARLY THEY STOLE THE ELECTION BY BUYING OFF THE POOR!!


You can see why it's a more appealing narrative than "Our 1985 ideas were repudiated yet again and the electorate is moving on" right?
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CLEARLY THEY STOLE THE ELECTION BY BUYING OFF THE POOR!!


You can see why it's a more appealing narrative than "Our 1985 ideas were repudiated yet again and the electorate is moving on" right?


It worked for Reagan! Smiley: frown

But seriously, with all the money the Republicans have they can go buy their own poor people. Smiley: bah
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#23 Nov 16 2012 at 11:35 AM Rating: Good
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But seriously, with all the money the Republicans have they can go buy their own poor people.


What they should do is import them from Serbia or something. White, hate Muslims, blame everyone else for their failures, it's a perfect synergy, really. Unfortunately, immigration is evil.
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