**** your autistic kid, I'm tired of hearing about him.Follow

I was recently playing an online game and someone was named Kechi. I thought it was you at first and was excited.

Do you not understand that this:



...refers to people other than yourself?

You're welcome to think what you want about your intelligence and that of others around you, but this all just strikes me as run-of-the-mill sociopathy.

No, you're not reacting to antipathy here. You provoked it. No one antagonized you until your comment about being intellectual superior to everyone you've ever met. You're not a victim, you're an assailant.

Not surprising, considering the recent trend of this conversation has done nothing to shed light on any supposed intelligence on your end of the wire.

Let me talk to you in a way you can understand.



It's probably something to do with the fact that you express yourself in a stilted, priggish manner. Most people you meet regard you as a bit of a tool, quite apart from what you think about how intelligent you are. Smasharoo is quite funny, which makes him more likable. People are more willing to tolerate things that they see as rude or inaccurate from people they like. Your boast will be regarded as more inaccurate, too, and that's another factor we have to consider.

Let's talk a bit more about that. It's difficult to see how anyone without a strong grasp of social dynamics and psychology could be an excellent strategist. More generally, if you accept that you're socially retarded you should expect people to perceive you as unintelligent if all they've done is talked to you. Your claims to genius, even if they are true, will seem wildly implausible. Generally, people will react to someone they see as a boastful idiot with expressions of contempt.

There, I hope that helped you to understand the ways of humans. If you see more behaviour that confuses you, feel free to drop me a line.

I've considered that a large part of it is probably that I'm seen as taking myself too seriously. But to me, this is just a game of "can we understand one another?" I think it's very amusing. I guess that makes me dreadfully boring and frustrating to others. I suppose it's a convenience to dismiss their feelings when the benefit of the relationship is so one-sided, though I truthfully thought that most of the conflict here was for the purpose of amusement. But I better understand now; thank you for taking the time to explain your perceptions.

Having said that, I still contend that I showed no disrespect to anyone, and yet I elicited disrespect in return. That makes it difficult for me to feel that establishing any emotional investment is warranted.

As for social dynamics and psychology, I do have a strong grasp of them, albeit in a more rigid, technical sense. My PhD is in psychology. And many of the people I've talked to regard me as very intelligent, even brilliant. Even those with established IQs of 150+, like my significant other and certain colleagues. High intelligence runs in my family (as does autism, apparently).

To me, it's just a matter of fact. Suppose you are one in a thousand. That's not so ridiculous, really, is it? There would be nearly 300,000 such people in the U.S. alone. And how many people are subscribed to this board? Would you say that you've actually, really, met a thousand people? Now what if you turn it up a standard deviation, and it's closer to ten thousand? There's nothing so incredulous about asserting that I've never met someone I consider an intellectual equal (and I do mean actually met). At that point, it's just statistics playing out. And that's just intelligence. For some people it's their athletic ability, or another strength. On the internet, exceptional people are all around. Your odds of meeting an exceptional person online are thousands of times more probable than in person, logistically.

I truly didn't mean to sound pompous. If Smash is anything like me, we've endured similar problems. I was only trying to establish a basis with which to empathize and encourage. Clearly, I failed to do that. But even brilliant people have numerous everyday failings.

Edited, Mar 24th 2013 5:05pm by Kachi

And then I'll miss you because that how it works.

This is how I feel when I read the Asylum:

Well, you obviously didn't read http://www.triplenine.org/download/IQ_and_the_Problem_of_Social_Adjustment.pdf, which TL:DR helpfully linked to us. That link says EXACTLY why almost every extremely intelligent person is completely unsocialized, or in other words, lacks any "social intelligence". Being hyper intelligent will NOT explain to them how and why other people act, behave and speak the way that they do. We are literally incomprehensible to them. Unless the hyper-intelligent person stumbles across psychological and behavioral texts in their young childhood.

Lets add Eske, Allegory and Kavekk to the people who didn't read the T9 link, OR who are being **********

This shows that you didn't read the entire T9 article. This is a perfect demonstration, as per the T9 article, of why geniuses don't burn out, they are cremated alive by society at large, and educational institutions in particular.

Edited, Mar 24th 2013 10:40pm by Aripyanfar

I wouldn't say that it's entirely due to lack of socialization, but I guess socialization doesn't have the same developmental impact for a child with autism, either. I was fortunate to have a few years where I took properly to socialization (but I was medicated with large doses of speed during those years; gogo ADD diagnosis). As a child, I only knew people by their hair, and in middle school, I would read alone in the library rather than go to lunch. But I had a supportive mother, two younger brothers, and playmates from time to time. All considered, my childhood was relatively normal. Unfortunately when I caught up to my developmental delays in adulthood it was like a second puberty. That was when I started to become noticeably more intelligent, like I just kept growing up and everyone else stayed the same. Before long I was surpassing my professors. So on top of social difficulties in general, I literally ran out of peers. All I could enjoy were autistic playmates, and now I barely enjoy most games. Now I just make my own. Er, anyway...

So I understand social cues relatively well now, but I do have a very difficult time filtering what I say, and generally cannot understand, or let's say, "am not able to agree" why I shouldn't speak my mind.



I'm sure that's probably true of some people. But for me, all of these things started well before anyone even knew about autism. When I was growing up, autism wasn't even a thing. And no one who knows me in person would describe me as an *******; I am generally a very sweet and affectionate person. Conversely, a large percentage of people I meet on the web seem to think so. I think a part of it is that if you came to know me in person, you'd realize before long that there was something fundamentally different about me, but here in text, a lot of that gets lost in translation. Here's a thoroughly enlightening article on autism:

http://www.jamesmw.com/sixrules.htm

This pretty much sums up the thread in a nutshell, at least for my part, eh? (tl;dr, just skim the bolded) I just found it in the middle of writing this reply. I'm actually not that well-versed on autism. Somehow I never took a great interest in it.