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#77 Oct 01 2013 at 10:11 AM Rating: Excellent
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idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
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if anything it should be actively encouraged.

Ideally, let them secede, then invade and be welcomed as liberators.

Why invade when we can simply enslave?

Galveston is trashed anyways.

edit - i guess i assumed the conversation was about texas. if we're going to let florida go, we'll need to save the Manatees first.

Edited, Oct 1st 2013 5:54pm by Elinda


I mostly figured we'd get rid of those black sheep northern states like Montana and North Dakota. Minnesota would get rid of Bachmann...
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#78 Oct 01 2013 at 10:12 AM Rating: Good
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idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
Elinda wrote:
Smasharoo wrote:
if anything it should be actively encouraged.

Ideally, let them secede, then invade and be welcomed as liberators.

Why invade when we can simply enslave?

Galveston is trashed anyways.

edit - i guess i assumed the conversation was about texas. if we're going to let florida go, we'll need to save the Manatees first.

Edited, Oct 1st 2013 5:54pm by Elinda


I mostly figured we'd get rid of those black sheep northern states like Montana and North Dakota. Minnesota would get rid of Bachmann...

Minnesota has the best public radio station though. Prairie Home Companion is as close to liberal scripture as you're going get.
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#79 Oct 01 2013 at 10:37 AM Rating: Good
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someproteinguy wrote:
Well who needs one when you have a Winchester hidden under your bed? I mean really. Smiley: oyvey
I've wanted a Model 1892 for a while now, but it was illegal to sell in NYC last I checked. Smiley: frown

clarified

Edited, Oct 1st 2013 12:40pm by lolgaxe
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#80 Oct 01 2013 at 10:45 AM Rating: Excellent
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lolgaxe wrote:
someproteinguy wrote:
Well who needs one when you have a Winchester hidden under your bed? I mean really. Smiley: oyvey
I've wanted a Model 1892 for a while now, but it was illegal to sell in NYC last I checked. Smiley: frown

clarified

Edited, Oct 1st 2013 12:40pm by lolgaxe


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#81 Oct 01 2013 at 10:48 AM Rating: Excellent
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Meanwhile, old people cast the first stone in the eventual revolution.
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#82 Oct 01 2013 at 10:53 AM Rating: Excellent
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So the GOP wants to close the government but also doesn't want anyone inconvenienced and the parks are supposed to magically clean and maintain themselves even as the employees are sent home without pay.

So that's governing for ya.
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#83 Oct 01 2013 at 10:55 AM Rating: Excellent
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It's just a "slimdown" not a shutdown, as you can see everything important is still working. You Liberals get all in a panic every time someone touches your precious government. Smiley: disappointed

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someproteinguy wrote:
as you can see everything important is still working.

Everything important plus parks and memorials.
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#85 Oct 01 2013 at 10:57 AM Rating: Good
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Patriotism! Kicking government stooges in the balls.
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#86 Oct 01 2013 at 11:04 AM Rating: Decent
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Elinda wrote:
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I mostly figured we'd get rid of those black sheep northern states like Montana and North Dakota. Minnesota would get rid of Bachmann...

Minnesota has the best public radio station though. Prairie Home Companion is as close to liberal scripture as you're going get.

This is why I can't listen to NPR on Saturday afternoons. Smiley: mad


Edited, Oct 1st 2013 1:07pm by Debalic
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#87 Oct 01 2013 at 11:06 AM Rating: Decent
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Smasharoo wrote:
if anything it should be actively encouraged.

Ideally, let them secede, then invade and be welcomed as liberators.

Wait. Do we really need to take them back? I say we wall up and militarize the M-D Line.
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#88 Oct 01 2013 at 11:14 AM Rating: Excellent
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Debalic wrote:
Smasharoo wrote:
if anything it should be actively encouraged.

Ideally, let them secede, then invade and be welcomed as liberators.

Wait. Do we really need to take them back? I say we wall up and militarize the M-D Line.
Just arm the WWII vets, no one will get in their way.
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#89 Oct 01 2013 at 11:27 AM Rating: Good
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Oooh, a .240 mount on a rascal. Actually, you'd probably need two, one on each side, kind of side-mounted and you'd have to design a separate trigger to make that work, but shouldn't be out of the realm of possibility ...

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#90 Oct 01 2013 at 11:32 AM Rating: Good
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Any bets on how long this is going to take?
#91 Oct 01 2013 at 11:34 AM Rating: Good
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Well, I'm not about to start working on it for another 25 years. There's also an issue with stability due to recoil I'd have to address.
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#92 Oct 01 2013 at 11:41 AM Rating: Excellent
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His Excellency Aethien wrote:
Any bets on how long this is going to take?
It depends?

You have a large number of people who aren't going to be affected in any major way, the essential government services aren't shut down, so there's no massive emergency. The health care program they're fighting over isn't going to have a direct affect on a large number of Americans either. Those of us who already have health insurance or aren't eligible to discounted rates on the exchanges aren't going to be directly affected in that manner. Also, on that point, the coverage isn't really starting immediately anyway. Many states don't have their exchanges operating all-up anyway, and won't for a while. This is just sign-up time for something that's starting shortly, and it's pretty much funded unless the shutdown forces someone's hand.

So realistically, barring some sort of emergency or unforeseen circumstance that we'd have a poor response too, this could drag on for weeks or months with most of us occasionally inconvenienced at worst. My guess is it takes something major to push a resolution, until then they're just entrenched as ever.

Sometime around Thanksgiving (near the end of November) is what my cynical side says, barring some sort of game-changing event.

Edited, Oct 1st 2013 10:48am by someproteinguy
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#93 Oct 01 2013 at 11:42 AM Rating: Good
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someproteinguy wrote:
Sometime around thanksgiving is what my cynical side says, barring some sort of game-changing event.
The turkey getting pardoned this year is probably sweating bullets.
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#94 Oct 01 2013 at 11:45 AM Rating: Excellent
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lolgaxe wrote:
someproteinguy wrote:
Sometime around thanksgiving is what my cynical side says, barring some sort of game-changing event.
The turkey getting pardoned this year is probably sweating bullets.
Doubtful. I hear you need a permit to get those and they aren't giving them out until the shutdown is resolved. If it's resourceful though, I bet the turkey could make some on a 3D printer.


Edited, Oct 1st 2013 10:45am by someproteinguy
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#95 Oct 01 2013 at 11:53 AM Rating: Good
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lolgaxe wrote:
Well, I'm not about to start working on it for another 25 years. There's also an issue with stability due to recoil I'd have to address.
I was talking about the shut down but sure, this too.
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someproteinguy wrote:
lolgaxe wrote:
someproteinguy wrote:
Sometime around thanksgiving is what my cynical side says, barring some sort of game-changing event.
The turkey getting pardoned this year is probably sweating bullets.
Doubtful. I hear you need a permit to get those and they aren't giving them out until the shutdown is resolved. If it's resourceful though, I bet the turkey could make some on a 3D printer.


Edited, Oct 1st 2013 10:45am by someproteinguy
If the turkey is sweating bullets, one could assume the pardon has failed.
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Debalic wrote:
Elinda wrote:
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I mostly figured we'd get rid of those black sheep northern states like Montana and North Dakota. Minnesota would get rid of Bachmann...

Minnesota has the best public radio station though. Prairie Home Companion is as close to liberal scripture as you're going get.

This is why I can't listen to NPR on Saturday afternoons. Smiley: mad


Edited, Oct 1st 2013 1:07pm by Debalic

Yeah, that and 3 hours of opera.
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#98 Oct 01 2013 at 12:15 PM Rating: Excellent
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Elinda wrote:
someproteinguy wrote:
lolgaxe wrote:
someproteinguy wrote:
Sometime around thanksgiving is what my cynical side says, barring some sort of game-changing event.
The turkey getting pardoned this year is probably sweating bullets.
Doubtful. I hear you need a permit to get those and they aren't giving them out until the shutdown is resolved. If it's resourceful though, I bet the turkey could make some on a 3D printer.
If the turkey is sweating bullets, one could assume the pardon has failed.
Who's supposed to kill the turkey anyway? I wonder if they've been furloughed.
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I'm hoping it's the guy from Blazing Saddles and Robin Hood: Men in Tights.
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#100 Oct 01 2013 at 12:34 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'm hoping it's the guy from Blazing Saddles and Robin Hood: Men in Tights.
Maybe we can get him to volunteer, everything should be run through charity anyway.

Also, science continues to plug and chug along as normal, as the money the government already gave people here is protected or something. Heaven help you if something changes or what not, but we can ride out several months of disruption without too much trouble. I'm lucky enough to be funded entirely by the Hospital (private non-profit), so am not directly affected.

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Historical precedent has led us to believe that most research activities will be classified as "essential” and will be sustained, but this situation is fluid and the impacts are difficult to predict with certainty. NIH has provided some guidance:

• PIs can continue spending on grants as awarded during the FY 2013 grant year budget.
• In the past, clinical trials have been considered 'essential,' as has student financial aid, VA operations, Medicare, and Medicaid, so while some administrative disruptions are possible in these categories, we believe that spending should not be affected.
• PIs should not make any spending changes that would require NIH approval, since agency staff will not be available to approve changes or otherwise provide administrative support. If you change your budget without approval, there is no guarantee that such expenditures will be reimbursed.
• Federal contracts may be disrupted, and while grant budgets are somewhat protected, contract budgets are more vulnerable: if you receive a stop work order, you should follow it, because you may not be reimbursed for any work carried out during a shutdown. If you receive such an order, please notify your partners in SPA, and they will help you execute the order.
• Subcontracts for FY2013 should not be affected.
• For all FY2014 projects, we await guidance from the federal government—as well as a continuing resolution or a fully approved budget—and we will let you know as soon as we can any implications of a shutdown on these funds.
• We understand that grants.gov itself will continue to operate under a government shutdown, but no applications will be processed.
We will keep you apprised of new developments as they unfold.


Edited, Oct 1st 2013 11:35am by someproteinguy
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#101 Oct 01 2013 at 12:39 PM Rating: Good
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err... @Aeth.

Realistically, there are enough Republican detractors that a standard budget bill would pass as soon one was allowed to be voted on.

So it's really just a game of how long it takes to get Boehner to crack and send the general budget bill through a committee that won't kill it on sight.

As in, the majority of the Democrats, and at least a sizable amount of Republicans, are all pissed off that the Tea Party are such idiots, and the vast majority of the nation that's at all tuned into politics is well aware that this is a bullsh*t maneuver.

I'm going with Friday. You know, just in time for all those government offices to be closed for two days anyway.

Edited, Oct 1st 2013 2:40pm by idiggory
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