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#1 Nov 04 2013 at 10:18 PM Rating: Default
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GOP Senators failed to block Gay rights non discrimination at work.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/gay-rights-bill-clears-senate-republican-hurdle-house-010301611.html

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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A White House-backed bill to ban workplace discrimination against gays narrowly cleared a Republican procedural roadblock in the U.S. Senate on Monday with the support of a handful of Republicans, just hours after the party's top lawmaker declared his opposition.
On a vote of 61-30, one more than the needed 60, the Democratic-led Senate agreed to begin consideration of the bipartisan bill, with passage likely by the end of this week. Seven of the 45 Senate Republicans joined 52 Democrats and two independents in voting to move toward passage. All the no votes were cast by Republicans.
The Employment Non-Discrimination Act of 2013 has become the latest example of the ideological struggle in a divided Republican Party.


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#2 Nov 05 2013 at 12:04 AM Rating: Excellent
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Heritage Action, a conservative advocacy group opposed to the bill, warned lawmakers last week that it would include their votes on it in their annual "legislative scorecard." It says the measure would undermine civil liberties, increase government interference in the labor market, and trample on religious liberty.
Although the bill exempts religious groups,


I'm sorry, I fail to see the connection. Also, **** these guys. **** 'em right in the ***. The Heritage folks are a bunch of ******.
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#3 Nov 05 2013 at 1:01 AM Rating: Excellent
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Dead in the House. Tea Party hates gays. Business groups want to be able to discriminate against gays without being sued.

Because, you know, liberty.
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#4 Nov 05 2013 at 3:11 AM Rating: Good
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Someone quote that "rights for all except [...] nobody gets rights. America!" gag. I am currently unable to do so.
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#5 Nov 05 2013 at 7:18 AM Rating: Excellent
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Boehner probably won't even let it come to vote.
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The Speaker believes this legislation will increase frivolous litigation and cost American jobs, especially small business jobs," Boehner spokesman Michael Steel said in a statement.
Do you suppose he ever thinks about what he says?

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#6 Nov 05 2013 at 7:59 AM Rating: Excellent
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It'll also increase non-frivolous litigation to protect homosexuals and cost small business jobs among firms that discriminate against gays, etc.

But we can't have that. Liberty! Freedom! Equal Rights to hate gays!
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#7 Nov 05 2013 at 10:17 AM Rating: Excellent
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Moderate Republicans trying to appear moderate and keep the tea party yuckiness away from them on a safe bill that won't get past the nutballs in the other chamber?
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#8 Nov 05 2013 at 10:39 AM Rating: Excellent
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Kirk (R-IL) was also one of the GOP voices who led to DADT being repealed a few years ago. I think he's probably sincere in his support for ENDA although burnishing his moderate credentials in Illinois is a nice side effect.

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#9 Nov 05 2013 at 1:49 PM Rating: Decent
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Why do you guys vote so much? It seems like your politicians are always campaigning.
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#10 Nov 05 2013 at 1:55 PM Rating: Excellent
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"You guys", who? Citizens?

House Reps elected every 2 years
Senators every 6 years
President/Governors every 4 years

So you're going to have federal elections at least every other year. New Jersey & Virginia, for reasons I have no interest in knowing, have their gubernatorial elections of "off years" so they're being talked about since nothing else is happening. But they still only elect a governor every four years.
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#11 Nov 05 2013 at 1:55 PM Rating: Excellent
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rdmcandie wrote:
Why do you guys vote so much? It seems like your politicians are always campaigning.
We don't, they are.

It's against freedom of speech to limit political fundraising or something. Smiley: rolleyes
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#12 Nov 05 2013 at 2:12 PM Rating: Decent
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Jophiel wrote:
"You guys", who? Citizens?

House Reps elected every 2 years
Senators every 6 years
President/Governors every 4 years

So you're going to have federal elections at least every other year. New Jersey & Virginia, for reasons I have no interest in knowing, have their gubernatorial elections of "off years" so they're being talked about since nothing else is happening. But they still only elect a governor every four years.



Ya citizens, you always voting on people. You never stop. Vote vote vote. You guys love to vote. Not just for Washington. Its really weird. We hate voting in Canada, we accept one way or the other we are getting the shaft so really its just do you want it to the right or the left. We give people majorities so we don't have to vote for a while.





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#13 Nov 05 2013 at 2:23 PM Rating: Good
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Yea, and we do things like appoint Senators for life...
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#14 Nov 05 2013 at 2:35 PM Rating: Excellent
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You guys love to vote. Not just for Washington.

Well, most state and local elections fall on the same day as the federal ones if they can manage it just as a matter of economics. Holding elections is expensive.
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#15 Nov 05 2013 at 3:48 PM Rating: Good
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My city has nothing to vote on this year. Not even a referendum for dog catcher or anything.

Our polls aren't even open. Smiley: frown

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#16 Nov 05 2013 at 4:05 PM Rating: Excellent
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We just had a school levy, which will almost certainly pass by some obscene amount. I put down the Skyrim long enough to fill in the little square and then took the ballot out to the mailbox when I went to work the next morning.


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Yea, and we do things like appoint Senators for life...
You should make that a king of the hill kind of thing. Off the previous Senator in hand to hand gladiatorial combat and you get to be the new Senator.
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#18 Nov 05 2013 at 5:40 PM Rating: Excellent
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In happier gay rights news...
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The Illinois General Assembly "narrowly approved a gay marriage bill, clearing the way for Illinois to become the 15th state to legalize same-sex unions," the Chicago Tribune reports.

"The bill got 61 votes in the House, one more than the bare minimum needed to send the measure back to the Senate, which quickly signed off. Democratic Gov. Pat Quinn has said he would sign the bill into law should it reach his desk."
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#19gbaji, Posted: Nov 05 2013 at 6:15 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I'll go out on a limb and guess that they believe religious liberty should not be limited just to religious groups. Put another way, someone should not be required to be a member of or operating on behalf of an official religious organization (based on tax status) in order to have religious freedom.
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#20 Nov 05 2013 at 6:24 PM Rating: Excellent
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Right. Everyone should be allowed to ignore laws based on just saying it's for religion. Sorry, black lady... my faith in No Black Ladyology says you can't be a clerk in my store. Now why don't you move on along so some nice white men can get the job as my God intended?
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#21 Nov 05 2013 at 6:53 PM Rating: Excellent
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Yep. If a moslem refused to hire Jews, I'm possitive gbaji and his GOP buddies would totally support him!
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#22gbaji, Posted: Nov 05 2013 at 7:28 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) It's a matter of social degrees and acceptance. I could go in the other direction and mock someone whose faith says that a @#%^phile can't be a clerk in their store. There's no objective absolute right and wrong here.
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Right. Except a pedophile is a felon and a danger to small children, while a black lady and a homosexual are not.

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It's a matter of social degrees and acceptance. I could go in the other direction and mock someone whose faith says that a @#%^phile can't be a clerk in their store. There's no objective absolute right and wrong here.

Straight to the gay-pedo dog-whistle? Seems a little abrupt, even for you. Been reading the stormfront forums again?
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Right. Except a @#%^phile is a felon and a danger to small children, while a black lady and a homosexual are not.

Hey, easy now. There are no absolutes. I'm sure there have been teams of black ladies and homosexuals who were felons and dangers to small children. I'm going to assume they named themselves "Butch Assity and Slumdance Sista"

Butch is the gay one. The black one probably has a big hat.
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Right. Everyone should be allowed to ignore laws based on just saying it's for religion.
No. But an advocacy group is certainly within its right to oppose a law on the basis of their religion. Which is what they are doing. Currently, the law does not grant special protective status based on sexual orientation.

Nor should it since an advocacy group is not a church.

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It's a matter of social degrees and acceptance. I could go in the other direction and mock someone whose faith says that a @#%^phile can't be a clerk in their store. There's no objective absolute right and wrong here.

Which is why "Bona fide religious organizations are exempt within their actual religious duties" is the best possible compromise and "Anyone who doesn't like a law on the basis of their faith shouldn't have to follow it because... religious liberty!" is a shitty, short-minded excuse.
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