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#27 Dec 12 2013 at 12:11 PM Rating: Decent
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Personally, I find it more reprehensible that people of poverty or color get far harsher punishments than this young man. I won't argue that this guy should have received a harsher sentence so much as I would argue that those of lesser crimes should have received far less. The justice is disproportionate, not necessarily in favor of this case, but to detriment of others.

Yes. Again, let me welcome you to the experience of human existence. "Justice" and "fairness" are abstract concepts people invented to placate small children. It's time to move on from the idea that they apply anywhere or, god help us, somehow "owed" to people just by virtue of their existence. It would be nice if it were different, and working towards that is admirable. Observing and complaining about the inherent lack of fairness, as a grown adult, borders on painfully obtuse.
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#28 Dec 12 2013 at 12:12 PM Rating: Good
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The article never mentions the race of this rich kid.

Just sayin'....


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#29 Dec 12 2013 at 12:13 PM Rating: Decent
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The article never mentions the race of this rich kid.

Why would it have to? A rich black kid goes to jail. I haven't checked, but I'll blindly wager $100,000 at 500 to 1 odds that the kid is white.
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#30 Dec 12 2013 at 1:52 PM Rating: Default
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The article never mentions the race of this rich kid.

Why would it have to? A rich black kid goes to jail. I haven't checked, but I'll blindly wager $100,000 at 500 to 1 odds that the kid is white.


What portion of those odds would you say are affected by the choice of writing the article in the first place? If it were a poor black kid, and the judge was lenient with him, would anyone have written an article about it? Let's also not forget that while the article focuses on the kid claiming he should be given leniency because his parent's have let him get away with stuff, there's nothing to show that this was actually why the judge gave him what we all assume is a light sentence.

Does anyone where actually know that the sentence he received is unusual for someone his age committing this particular crime? If not, shouldn't we?
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#31 Dec 12 2013 at 2:01 PM Rating: Excellent
Shut your ***** mouth, gbaji. I'm not here to listen to your reason, I'm here to vent my spleen! Raaargh! Emotions rule me, and this offends my liberal sensibilities! I perceive racism where there is none, though I might as well have left out that qualifier because there is no racism, not anywhere. Not even in one place. It just... it doesn't exist, not outside of my fevered brain.
#32 Dec 12 2013 at 2:15 PM Rating: Decent
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What portion of those odds would you say are affected by the choice of writing the article in the first place? If it were a poor black kid, and the judge was lenient with him, would anyone have written an article about it?

Yes, of course, it would have been front page news on Drudge, with police lights flashing. Poor black kid KILLS two people and gets no jail time? It'd be 24/7 non stop on Fox News for weeks. Weeks. I mean this is all theoretical of course, you're talking about something with comet strike odds of happening, ever, in the US legal system.
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#33 Dec 12 2013 at 2:26 PM Rating: Decent
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It would be nice if it were different, and working towards that is admirable. Observing and complaining about the inherent lack of fairness, as a grown adult, borders on painfully obtuse.


Well not everyone is in a position that enables them to affect such change on a visible scale. Public discourse is certainly beneficial, since it may (and has proven to, in the past) motivate those who have such power to use it in a positive manner.
#34 Dec 12 2013 at 2:30 PM Rating: Decent
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Public discourse is certainly beneficial, since it may (and has proven to, in the past) motivate those who have such power to use it in a positive manner.

Yes, the middle class idly pontificating about the problems of the poor always ends up resulting in improving circumstances for them. Or welfare reform and mandatory minimum sentencing, but you know, SOMETHING happens, so that's good, right?
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#35 Dec 12 2013 at 2:42 PM Rating: Excellent
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Smasharoo wrote:
Public discourse is certainly beneficial, since it may (and has proven to, in the past) motivate those who have such power to use it in a positive manner.

Yes, the middle class idly pontificating about the problems of the poor always ends up resulting in improving circumstances for them. Or welfare reform and mandatory minimum sentencing, but you know, SOMETHING happens, so that's good, right?

Baby steps.

Before =4 can take on welfare reform it has to conquer gbaji.
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#36 Dec 12 2013 at 3:04 PM Rating: Excellent
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Poor black kid KILLS two people and gets no jail time? It'd be 24/7 non stop on Fox News for weeks. Weeks.

Wouldn't you want to know how Eric Holder was directly responsible for it?
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#37 Dec 12 2013 at 3:25 PM Rating: Default
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What portion of those odds would you say are affected by the choice of writing the article in the first place? If it were a poor black kid, and the judge was lenient with him, would anyone have written an article about it?

Yes, of course, it would have been front page news on Drudge, with police lights flashing. Poor black kid KILLS two people and gets no jail time? It'd be 24/7 non stop on Fox News for weeks. Weeks. I mean this is all theoretical of course, you're talking about something with comet strike odds of happening, ever, in the US legal system.


And your proof that this is true is based on your own assumption that it must be true, right? I mean, if it's not reported, it didn't happen!
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#38 Dec 12 2013 at 3:26 PM Rating: Good
Kind of the opposite of how when a poor black woman is kidnapped or murdered, no one says anything unless there's more breaking news, but if she was a white woman of any economic value above homeless, it'd be on the news nonstop for months and make the occasional burp back to the news even after it's resolved on slow news days.

"Was the murder of Tiffany Saxon really solved? We don't have any new evidence, but we have a shocking new interview from a person who may have talked to her hours before her death that gives us another reason to talk about it even though we found her body six months ago and her ex-boyfriend is awaiting trial."
#39 Dec 12 2013 at 3:30 PM Rating: Decent
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And your proof that this is true is based on your own assumption that it must be true, right? I mean, if it's not reported, it didn't happen!

Well I could base it on something similar. Hey. Has there ever been a case of a black guy who wasn't found guilty of murdering a white person? I mean not a poor one, of course, we find poor black guys that weren't in the state guilty of murdering white people all the time, but maybe a rich one? A rich black guy...so a rapper or an athlete, I guess. Has anything like that ever happened? Was there any news coverage of it? I don't have TV I may have missed it.

Edited, Dec 12th 2013 4:33pm by Smasharoo
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#40 Dec 12 2013 at 5:13 PM Rating: Default
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Smasharoo wrote:
And your proof that this is true is based on your own assumption that it must be true, right? I mean, if it's not reported, it didn't happen!

Well I could base it on something similar. Hey. Has there ever been a case of a black guy who wasn't found guilty of murdering a white person?


Sure. I'm reasonably certain that there are millions of black men in the US who have not been found guilty of murdering a white person (or any person for that matter). Did you mean "black people accused of murdering a white person but were found innocent?" Cause that's a whole different ball game.

So.... How about this case? Black male shoots and kills a 17 year old white male. Found not guilty. Strange that there was no widespread media outrage about this. Want to know why I'm linking to some local Rochester news article? Because there is virtually zero national media coverage of the shooting. A google search of his name has no national media outlet results in the first page (and I'm not going to look through every page). A search for his name on CNN.com reveals no hits for his name (well, two but neither of them are about this case). ABCnews.com gets 7 hits, all for some home insurance advertisement. NBCnews has some "web hits", but only four hits on articles on their site, but none of them contain the name in the article itself (I'm assuming I'm getting hits on comments).


So.... Clearly it does happen, and clearly the media fails to report it much when it does. So... Want to try again?
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#41 Dec 12 2013 at 5:30 PM Rating: Good
Quick glance at it makes it look like the kid was breaking into his car.
#42 Dec 12 2013 at 5:38 PM Rating: Decent
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So.... Clearly it does happen

So just to sum up your comparison here:

Drunk white kid kills 4 pedestrians who he drives over after stealing beer from Walmart equates to......Sober black guy shoots white car thief after he's attacked.

Yup, pretty much the same. For the record, you've failed to provide an example. Would you like to try again or give up and declare victory?

Edit: Also you're correct the mainstream media didn't seem particularly interested in the case. When I search CNN Roderick Scott nothing comes up. At first I thought it was odd that you'd heard of it, then I tried searching any racist blog I could think of for it and BAM! hits galore. Stormfront, the while nine. Then it made sense. Just kidding, I'm sure it was the free republic or something where "nigger" is avoided in favor of dog whistle code words and everyone just finds it really *interesting* how blacks are responsible for crime and are a drain on the economy.

Edited, Dec 12th 2013 6:48pm by Smasharoo
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#43 Dec 12 2013 at 6:49 PM Rating: Default
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Quick glance at it makes it look like the kid was breaking into his car.


And he was acquitted despite being black and the victim being white. Whether the acquittal was legitimate isn't the issue.

And the larger point is that my claim that our perception that white people are given an unfairly better chance at acquittal in our legal system than black people is driven by bias in reporting and writing these stories by our national media is absolutely supported by this case. You'd never heard of it before, had you? Why not?
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Edit: Also you're correct the mainstream media didn't seem particularly interested in the case. When I search CNN Roderick Scott nothing comes up. At first I thought it was odd that you'd heard of it, then I tried searching any racist blog I could think of for it and BAM! hits galore. Stormfront, the while nine. Then it made sense. Just kidding, I'm sure it was the free republic or something where "nigger" is avoided in favor of dog whistle code words and everyone just finds it really *interesting* how blacks are responsible for crime and are a drain on the economy.


This part of your post is sad and pathetic on so many levels and for so many reasons. I'm not even sure where to start. Projection maybe?


Um... For the record, I did a google search on the string: black males acquitted for murder


So yeah, maybe you should put your racist projection back in your own head, where it belongs.
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This part of your post is sad and pathetic on so many levels and for so many reasons. I'm not even sure where to start. Projection maybe?

Smash is projecting all the time he spends on the Stormfront forums?
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gbaji wrote:
Um... For the record, I did a google search on the string: black males acquitted for murder

Entered this search string and was suprised by 3 things.
1) Everything on the main page seemed to be about Zimmerman.
2) Nothing popping up about OJ.
3) After typing in black males, top google suggestion was black males in prison
#47 Dec 12 2013 at 7:53 PM Rating: Decent
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Smash is projecting all the time he spends on the Stormfront forums?

The zionist occupied government wants you to think so. Don't fall for it, hard working Christian white man.

Edited, Dec 12th 2013 8:53pm by Smasharoo
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#48 Dec 12 2013 at 7:54 PM Rating: Decent
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This part of your post is sad and pathetic on so many levels and for so many reasons. I'm not even sure where to start. Projection maybe?

I think you might be confused, the point I was making is that you are an easily manipulated racist who is afraid of black men.
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This part of your post is sad and pathetic on so many levels and for so many reasons. I'm not even sure where to start. Projection maybe?

Smash is projecting all the time he spends on the Stormfront forums?


Smasharoo wrote:
This part of your post is sad and pathetic on so many levels and for so many reasons. I'm not even sure where to start. Projection maybe?

I think you might be confused, the point I was making is that you are an easily manipulated racist who is afraid of black men.



This is what he's projecting Joph. Do I really need to spell it out to you?
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#50 Dec 12 2013 at 8:05 PM Rating: Decent
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This is what he's projecting Joph. Do I really need to spell it out to you?


This in an interesting theory aside from the minor caveat that you're a racist and I'm not. See that's why it's funny when I allude to your racism and just weird if you imply that I'm a racist.
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This is what he's projecting Joph. Do I really need to spell it out to you?

Well, not so much "spell it out" as "make sense". I mean, just saying "I know you are but what am I?" isn't much of an argument.
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