My car has been poisoning meFollow

Aside from virtually never having to drive in ice/snow where you live, why did you go for a RWD car? Just curious.

Better handling (oh wait, it's American so nevermind that), they can be more powerful as the front wheels can't handle more than about 250hp alongside the steering, more and it just turns into an understeering monstrosity.

That said it's an Australian designed car rather than American so maybe it has some 21st century technology and it might just handle well.


Edit: I was too slow, and if you want reliability you really can't do much better than a Toyota. They make entirely uninteresting cars but they're impossible to break, my sister had an accident in my dad's old Toyota van, drove it straight through a lamp post and aside from the broken window and V shape in the hood and roof it was unharmed and mechanically still working flawlessly.

Edited, Jan 17th 2014 1:58pm by Aethien

My most recent car purchase was made on ease of entry and egress, passenger space, cost and mileage.

Also the Hippiness of the Kia Soul was a huge selling point for me. I jacked it up by hanging my glass peace sign from the rear view mirror.

We had our corolla for 7(?) years, and the only problem we ever had was the light on the little digital clock getting dim.

More like $9k. If in "very good" condition (not sure which particular trim you have, but with a $15k price tag new I'm assuming a base model 4d sedan here). That's the price to a private seller. Dealerships will sell it used for more, but obviously wont buy it from you for anywhere near that. But let's just eyeball it and say that it's depreciated by 1/3rd of its initial value since you purchased it in 1010.



Not sure where you get either of these ideas. I purchased my G8 GT for about $28k in 2010. Current sale price for my car is about $20k. So it's depreciated by less relative value than your corolla. Breaking down? It's been in the shop exactly once since I purchased it.



Given that neither factor is true, then for someone like me who does enjoy driving a car with one of the roomiest cabins in its class, perfect back to front weight distribution (50/50), nearly perfect right to left distribution (51/49, and that's because it was designed in Australia and assumes a driver in the right seat rather than the left), best acceleration among similarly priced performance sedans in its year, best breaking among the same group, best handling among that same group. And lowest price among that same group. There's a reason why every review of large sedans under $40k in 2009 said "buy this car". It's one of the best bang for the buck vehicles produced in the last 20 years.



Yeah. I'm sure I did get taken advantage of. Want to know why? Because these things were so much in demand that sellers knew they could hold firm on their sticker price, and if the guy in front of them didn't buy it, the guy in the lobby right behind him would. It was that good of a deal even at sticker price, and they knew it. I literally had to wait about 4 months, checking online regularly before I could find one for sale anywhere within 100 miles. So yeah. Bit of a sellers market.

But the car is seriously more than worth it.



Nope. I wont. I've had to take the car into the shop one time. And again, "least reliable"? How do you figure. I mean, it's got an average 4.695/5 customer review rating at Edmunds. Gee. You're right. I read review after review of people complaining about all the terrible problems they've had with their G8s.

At least my car doesn't have problems with the damn breaks or anything. And your 2010 corolla? 4.118/5 customer review rating (that's lower btw, just in case you're math challenged today). I get the whole "buy a cheap/affordable car" bit, but I intentionally choose to spend more on a better car. Again, it's about bang for buck, right?

http://www.kbb.com/pontiac/g8/2009-pontiac-g8/gt-sedan-4d/?pricetype=private-party&vehicleid=227015&intent=trade-in-sell&mileage=55000

So, $18k.

http://www.kbb.com/toyota/corolla/2010-toyota-corolla/le-sedan-4d/?pricetype=private-party&vehicleid=261638&intent=trade-in-sell&mileage=49500&options=4445396%7ctrue%7c4445395%7ctrue%7c2930044%7ctrue&anchor=true

Annd... $10k

We actually paid $14,200, I just checked. That's what we actually paid before taxes including all fees and that sort of thing. Car's probably in what would qualify as "excellent" condition, and the reality is 95% we could sell it on Craigslist for $11k in about two hours. That aside, let's work with $15k and $10k. Depreciates a third.

$28k and $18k...more than a third. Wah wah wah. More than a third. Add in the awesome 18 MPH you're getting and well, I hope it's fun to drive. You're paying for it to be, and not much else. As to reliability, every source has it significantly lower than our car, most have the g8 "below average." Awesome that it has good user reviews, though, I mean nothing's more useful than a self selecting internet poll.

Lol. Um... Ok. So you car has retained 66.6% of its original value, and mine has retained only 64.2%. You're right then! I guess that's the difference between great and, what did you call it? "Comically bad"? Bit of a stretch, huh?

And yeah, I'm reasonably sure my car is approximately 348% more fun to drive than yours. It's certainly more comfortable to drive and ride in.

Sure, but you'd only find that in poorly maintained cars, or cars ~15+ years old. I personally don't want to be in a collision or cato regardless of whether or not I have passengers, and/or young children on board. But hey, that's a psych thing, and that's junk science. But again, I do likely do less mileage and that skews the risk calculations. I do like the additional visibility on the vehicle, vastly superior to the (much nicer) eclipse I was looking at. I'm sure that would have been more fun to drive, but...

Edited, Jan 17th 2014 11:17pm by Timelordwho

Where's your sense of adventure...

He also said Smash bought his car in 1010. I guess he has a Tardis?

No one is.

..or the Fred Flintstone make/model.