Stalker rdmcandie wrote:
I have one question:
If God hates gays so much. Why does he keep making them? Can't he just like make it so there is no such thing as gay if he doesn't like it?
lolgaxe wrote:
I think the better question is if gay is unnatural then why do so many animals do it?
I cringe and grit my teeth every time I hear a Christian try to deride homosexuality by saying that it is "unnatural". The answer is YES it is totally natural. This falls in line with the question of what DOES separate us from animals and what SHOULD separate us from animals. Now before your bile-ducts start spazzing out: I am not saying that homosexuals are committing any bigger perversion than anybody else that rejects God's will by giving into their animal passions.. God knows I am certainly guilty of it. That is the point. Every human is a 'sinner' in God's eyes not because of what they do or what they have done but because of what we are. Yes, in that respect we are no different than animals.. however what does make us different than animals is that God has given us a way to be forgiven of these fleshly tendencies and to be liberated from
wanting to commit them and instead to commit ourselves to spiritual tendencies. Animals will always be animals but human-beings have a God given potential to be liberated from the will of the flesh and to become spiritual beings. God doesn't make people sinners (e.g. homosexuals) but God created us with a free-will and that free-will has a natural tendency for fleshly desires.. and this isn't limited to mere sexual excess but applies to anything that we do that is an affront to our spiritual potential.. The works of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, moral impurity, promiscuity, idolatry, sorcery, hatreds, strife, jealousy, outbursts of anger, selfish ambitions, dissensions, factions, envy, drunkenness, carousing, and anything similar. The fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faith, gentleness, self-control.
Yes it is wrong for a Christian to single out homosexuality as sexual immorality above any other fleshly act that causes us to turn from our spiritual potential. God wants spiritual desires to take precedence over our fleshly desires. It's as simple as that.. and it's just not possible to make God the center of your life when your primary method of self-identification is what kind of person you like having sex with.
In regards to people (Christians included) that always point to the death sentencing in the Old Testament and ignore that to dishonor your parents or to work on the Sabbath is also a death sentence; it is nothing short of BAD biblical teaching and misses the entire point of why God wanted to single out a nation of people for himself.. Those laws were for the Nation of Israel in order to keep them preserved and singled out so that they would continue to exist throughout all of history, preserve scripture, and give birth to The Messiah..
...but I digress.