Smasharoo wrote:
And so is your risk of dying to a flu.
No, you stupid, ignorant fuck, risk of dying to the flu and risk of having some negative consequence of the vaccine can't even be vaguely equivocated.
Yup. There's that correlation again. The more wrong you are, the more aggressively you post.
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Healthy people do die of flu...
Extremely rarely. When people within the mid age range get sick with the flu, it's nearly always because they had some other underlying health issue (ie: not healthy people). And it appears that the CDC doesn't actually track how many healthy people between the ages of 18 and 50 even get sick, much less die from the flu. So while we can assume that number is greater than zero, I would not assume it accounts for more than a tiny fraction of those who die from flu.
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healthy people don't die from the flu vaccine.
Here is you, once gain, making a completely false statement. Note, for the record, I have
never said that healthy people can't or don't die from flu. You, on the other hand, have just made a ridiculous and easily refuted claim. Here's my result from a quick search on
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Found 103 cases where Age is 18-or-more-and-under-30 or 30-or-more-and-under-40 or 40-or-more-and-under-50 and Vaccine is FLU3 or FLU4 or FLUC3 or FLUN(H1N1) or FLUN3 or FLUN4 or FLUR3 and Patient Died
Hah. Very first one:
Age: 34.7
Died? Yes
Other Medications: No medications
Current Illness: NONE
Preexisting Conditions: NONE
It happens. Rarely? Sure. But it does. Even to people who appear to be perfectly healthy.
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The less people who are vaccinated against a given strain of flu, the higher the chances of that strain mutating into a more lethal version. Influenza has been the cause of some of the greatest pandemic mass death events in human history.
The 1918 pandemic killed 3% of the world's population. Our ability to treat very effective flue strains is better now, but not dramatically. It's possible and in may ways likely that there will be another large pandemic of a lethal strain. More possible if idiots like you continue to make uninformed decisions.
Except that there's quite a bit of evidence that by vaccinating people (especially children), we're also reducing our populations natural immunities to flu. So that when that nastier strain comes along (and it inevitably will regardless of how much we may slow it down by vaccinating people), more people will die. There's a reason why baby boomers have a lower risk of swine flu than those born later. It's because they grew up during a time period when flu vaccines were not handed out like candy and when variants of that flu strain were floating around. See, when you take a flu vaccination, it only protects you for a short amount of time, and just from that one particular variant of that one particular strain. If you actually get a flu and survive it (which the overwhelming majority of people will) you come out with long lasting immunity to that variant of that strain, and a degree of immunity to all other variants of the same strain.
I'm not saying "no vaccinations ever!". However, I am saying that it's not crazy at all for a healthy person who does not work in the health care or education fields to choose not to take the flu vaccine. Broad flu vaccinations are, at best, a trade off of effects, some positive, and some negative. It is just as foolish to say "everyone should get a flu shot" as to say "no one should get a flu shot".