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#1 Oct 30 2014 at 10:20 AM Rating: Decent
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I removed some vegetation near the feildstone foundation of my stately manor, because water was appearing in my basement. Re-grading the earth near the foundation has solved this issue, however I'm not sure what to put on said earth to avoid it washing away when it rains. Near the house from the foundation, I've put gravel for about 24 inches, which seems to hold the dirt there fine and diffuses runoff from the roof (no gutters). Prior to that, the runoff basically made a trench in the soil where it fell. There is probably another two feet of now bare soil sloping down to our lawn. What should I put on it? More gravel? Mulch? Grass? Are plantings ok?

I really couldn't find a consensus via Google. Bless me with your knowledge oh Midwestern one. I'll be temporarily grateful. It'll pass quickly.

Edited, Oct 30th 2014 12:22pm by Smasharoo
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I'll pass quickly.

If landscaping advice is what'll hasten your departure from this vale of tears, I'm on 100% board.

Grass would probably be the best bet for holding the soil in place just in terms of surface root mass. You'd want either sod or to use straw erosion blanket on the slope over seed. I've no idea what the seeding window is in that part of the world but around here it's too late for it (seed won't be established before winter kills it). Can always throw the erosion blanket down though.

Groundcover style plantings would also work. Vinca minor, Euonymous coloratus, stuff like that. Again, stuff that actually covers the ground. It needs to get established before it's really effective though.

Just putting shrubs or perennial flowers in there is likely the least effective solution and bare mulch will just float downhill with your dirt.

Turf is the quickest/best solution assuming you're happy with it just being lawn. Or unless you want to get into running drain tile and stuff.

Edited, Oct 30th 2014 11:30am by Jophiel
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#3 Oct 30 2014 at 10:40 AM Rating: Decent
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That's amazingly helpful, thanks. I didn't know what a "straw erosion blanket" was 10 minutes ago.
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Build a moat.
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#5 Oct 30 2014 at 12:27 PM Rating: Good
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You should either place rocks along the runoff path so it looks like a waterfall, or buy Bamboo and make one of these.

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#6 Oct 30 2014 at 1:11 PM Rating: Decent
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buy Bamboo and make one of these.

I tried that, but it was just constant ninja attacks and Samurai duels. Which made me think of this completely unrelated thing:

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Quality youtube. Enjoyed his video about humanAmeican rights.


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Seconding grass, but wait for spring, waste of money if you do it now. I'd just throw lots of seed down, give it a good rake to loosen up some of the top soil and water it. Works great and once the grass takes the dirt will never move.

Alternatively, concrete.
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If you have any goats I recommend doing a ritual sacrifice over the newly sown seeds (or newly placed turf)
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#10 Oct 31 2014 at 9:39 AM Rating: Good
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If you have any goats I recommend doing a ritual sacrifice over the newly sown seeds (or newly placed turf)
Blood, blood, bright red blood makes the green grass grow.
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#11 Oct 31 2014 at 9:46 AM Rating: Good
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What's the estimate?

We have a very wet/shady end of the house. I've filled it in with sedum. It's not taking as well as I'd like. I might do some regrading myself next season.
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lolgaxe wrote:
Sir Xsarus wrote:
If you have any goats I recommend doing a ritual sacrifice over the newly sown seeds (or newly placed turf)
Blood, blood, bright red blood makes the green grass grow.

Also....

The grass is always greener over the septic system. ~Erma Bombeck.

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Seconding grass, but wait for spring, waste of money if you do it now.

I'd throw blanket down now just to keep it from eroding over the winter. Then seed in spring (around here the spring seed window is March 15-May 15) or even throw seed on it earlier if it's not covered in snow. The seed will lie dormant until it's warm enough to inspire germination. You need blanket for that though unless you're just feeding the birds.
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#14 Oct 31 2014 at 12:27 PM Rating: Good
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Jophiel wrote:
Groundcover style plantings would also work. Vinca minor, Euonymous coloratus, stuff like that.
Ah, Friday afternoon. So much work to do, but who wants to do it? So, vinca strums a chord in my memory. Here's a quote from my Pharmacognosy text, which I keep, like all reasonable people do, within arms reach in my office:
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Catharanthus or Vinca is the dried whole plant of Catharanthus roseus G. Don (Fam. Apocynaceae), formerly designated Vinca rosea Linnè. The plant is an erect, everblooming pubescent herb or subshrub, woody at the base, 40 to 80 cm high. It probably originated in Madagascar but is now cosmopolitan in the tropics and is widely cultivated as an ornamental. The flowers are normally violet, rose, or white; ocellate forms are found in cultivated varieties. Botanically, it is closely related to Vinca minor Linnè, the common periwinkle.

I don't know what that has to do with anything.

My advice would be to plant Belladona. It's not going to help much with your erosion problem, but it has other benefits.
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Belladonna Leaf, Belladona Herb, or Deadly Nightshade Leaf consists of the dried leaf and flowering or fruiting top of Atropa Belladona Linnè. ... Atropa is from Atropos, meaning inflexible, the name of the Greek Fate who cuts the thread of life, and probably alludes to the poisonous character of the drug. Belladonna is from the Italian bella, beautiful, and donna, lady; the juice of the berry placed in the eyes causes dilation of the pupils, thus giving a striking appearance.

The plant is a perennial herb, growing up to a meter in height, indigenous to central and southern Europe and Asia Minor, and is cultivated in sunny locations in England, Germany, India, and the United States. ... The poisonous character of the plant has been known for many years, particularly in the localities where it is indigenous.

There's something about a plant that is known both as Belladonna and Deadly Nightshade that I find interesting.

EDIT: By the way, you probably have it growing somewhere on your property. It has oval shaped deep green leaves and in late spring and summer (here on Long Island, anyway) it gets tiny single white flowers that turn into deep purple berries. It grows like a weed, if you have hedges it's likely in them.



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Yeah, I have nightshade growing in my yard. It's more a hassle for the weediness of its aggressive growth than any toxic properties. The berries are actually the least toxic bits -- if you wanted to poison yourself, you should go to town on the leaves and stems.
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Yeah, I have nightshade growing in my yard. It's more a hassle for the weediness of its aggressive growth than any toxic properties. The berries are actually the least toxic bits -- if you wanted to poison yourself, you should go to town on the leaves and stems.
Nah, if I'm going to poison myself I'll probably order an asp from Amazon.

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#17 Oct 31 2014 at 1:28 PM Rating: Good
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Deadly Nightshade grows wild all over the place around here too. The flowers are quite pretty little things.
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Elinda wrote:
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Sir Xsarus wrote:
If you have any goats I recommend doing a ritual sacrifice over the newly sown seeds (or newly placed turf)
Blood, blood, bright red blood makes the green grass grow.

Also....

The grass is always greener over the septic system. ~Erma Bombeck.

I can attest to this. The leach field in our side yard has a very well-defined vibrant, lush patch of grass atop it. The rest of the yard is a semi-barren wasteland.
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