Can't even begin to come up with a title for this oneFollow

Like I said, I also don't believe in typical gender roles. I could wear a dress right now if I felt like it. My wife does not wear them. She does not wear makeup, either. And I don't exactly do typical guy things myself. My stepdaughter will sometimes braid my now incredibly long hair and comment on what a pretty princess I am. It's a good laugh, but I don't identify myself as female, because I'm not, and I never will be. Like Poldaran, I have entertained the idea, and if there was some magical way to change between genders at will, I'd totally do it.

The problem is, there is no way to do that. There is nothing even close. There is nothing any human being can do to change their gender. The best they can do is lie to themselves about who and what they are, and lie to everyone else. Pretending. They know they're not the gender they want to be, and so does the rest of the world. This isn't some phase or temporary thing. They spend their entire lives tormented over it. When is this ever ok?



No. He is very much a typical boy. We were only discussing it because it's the kind of thing my wife likes to dwell on. Sometimes it seems as if she would prefer him to be transsexual.

The problem is, there is no way to do that. There is nothing even close. There is nothing any human being can do to change their gender.

There is, in fact. It's not a problem at all, and it happens all the time.

The best they can do is lie to themselves about who and what they are, and lie to everyone else. Pretending

Yeah...if you create an arbitrary standard that can't be met, then people can't meet it. Did the Tautology Department of Tautology approve your explanation?

So far you've created a problem where one didn't exist, seemingly for the sole reason of justifying you feeling uncomfortable with the idea of trans people. Just own being uncomfortable about it. Your actions don't require logical justification, you're a human. Trans people make me extremely uncomfortable. I almost literally cringe if I am with any in person. That's my problem, though, not theirs. It's fucking absolutely not some objective logical failure in their decision. Grow a pair and just own your own prejudices, that's what grownups do.

You too?

Ever notice when a M to F is going through the Barbie doll stage? Normally it happens to the older ones who grew up in the 50's through 70's and they have to have one pink and black outfit. I would give help in trans support group on how not to dress like a Barbie doll.

On what planet? I hope you're not referring to surgery. Having a mutilated **** that's been turned inside out doesn't make someone a woman.

It shouldn't. But it does when social busybodies argue that distinctions traditionally made based on biological se.x, like what bathroom you use, or what cabin you sleep in at camp, or what sports team you play on, should instead be based on gender.

Usually when parents worry about separating teens during a sleepover, it's not about who likes to wear dresses or braid their hair, but which teens have penises, and which ones have vaginas, right? Yet, the very people who fight so hard to make sure everyone understands that gender and se.x are different seem unable to make that same distinction when a really good cause is on the line.

I know a few trans people who seem happy. I know a few who are a total mess. They're kinda like people that way, you know?

Would you have retroactive skeevies if you found out someone you met was trans if you didn't know when you met them?

No idea. I'd like to think I wouldn't, but I'd like to think I wouldn't to begin with. Maybe it's an uncanny valley sort of a thing, I don't know. More likely it's just that I'm old and prone to xenophobia. The odd (or maybe not) thing is that drag doesn't bother me at all. Who knows what evil lurks the hearts of Roos. I'd worry about it more, but it doesn't come up much and I have enough neurosis that actually impact my life significantly that I can't see this being on the list any time soon.

On what planet? I hope you're not referring to surgery. Having a mutilated **** that's been turned inside out doesn't make someone a woman.

Yeah..this is all your baggage mate. You are making zero sense in an objective sense.

I'm ok with LGBT LBGT LTGB "the gay" rights, I have friends in various areas of that particular societal group (I'm totally not racist see! I have a black friend!!!). I would never suggest anything is wrong with anyone's sexual orientation as long as it only involves consensual "stuffs."

Even given my feelings (or lack of, really, I just don't care what people do with their parts and don't see why it should be anyone's business) on the subject I wouldn't wish that life on my child. I wouldn't dissuade him/her from it if it's what they wanted/felt but I wouldn't feel good about it, I would probably hide those feelings as they're likely rooted in some form of bigotry and it's more important that my child is happy than me being comfortable with his/her lifestyle.

Bigotry and bias exist in all of us in varying degrees, what separates us from the animals/conservatives is our ability to overcome those ingrained biases and support those different from ourselves.

If only it were as easy as all that.

I had never considered that as an option before.

Anyone know a good doctor with no morals who works cheap?

Just find some big fat girls, stick em in a hole with some lotion for a few weeks, and make your own meat suit.