Also, and I know I've mentioned this before, but it is kinda relevant. The claim itself doesn't even make sense. How exactly is anyone even thinking that this supposed collusion occurred? Let's assume for the moment that the Russians did indeed hack the DNC servers, and they did indeed hand the contents of said server to wikileaks. Um.. Where does Trump come in here? We might speculate that Trump could be secretly calling up Putin and coordinating the release of specific tidbits of information they had (although, they'd have to also secretly share the information as well, so he and his team could figure out what would best be leaked when for maximum effect or something), but that all fails when you realize that the entire theory assumes that the Russians handed the info to Wikileaks and then Wikileaks leaked it. Wikileaks, not the Russians was in control off what information was released, and when.
So are we saying that Trump was somehow secretly communicating with Julian Assange to coordinate those releases? How exactly does that not get noticed, given where he is? And all of this to do what? Something that Trump didn't need to be involved in at all in the first place? There's a point at which the sheer contortions you have to go to in order to support the narrative just don't work anymore. We have to assume that the Russians secretly wanted Trump to win and not Clinton, despite every historical indication that her foreign policy would be better for them than the unknown Trump. We then have to assume that their method of achieving this was to hack into the DNC to get some dirt on Clinton and her associates. And then we have to assume that, having found said dirt, sometime in June of 2016, instead of holding onto it to use as leverage against what seemed to be a nearly sure bet of a future Clinton president they decide instead to use it in the slim hope of hurting her election shot and getting Trump to win instead. But instead of leaking it themselves, via any of a number of methods they could have used, and which would have allowed them to control the release, they instead hand it off to Assange and just kinda hope he'll do what they want with it?
The whole thing is way too complicated. It's a white cat and a monocle short of Bond villain level silliness. The real world doesn't actually operate like the folks who write screenplays might want you to think. It simply doesn't make any sense. What makes a lot more sense is that the whole thing started out as opposition narrative, and then grew out of the need for those who lost the election to come up with an explanation other than "we totally misread the voters, and ran a terrible candidate to boot. Oh and got overly arrogant about the whole thing too. And maybe we shouldn't have pushed so much of our nutty agenda on the people of the country for the last 8 years too".
Edited, May 2nd 2017 10:05pm by gbaji
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