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#177 Sep 05 2016 at 6:55 AM Rating: Good
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Well the men I was directed at the guys here who keep putting down Hillary time after time for all the things that have been said about her not being someone that they can support. Canadians are excepted. They have elected a Man who respect Women and isn't afraid of them being in powerful offices.

The "men" that I am upset at here have been constantly posting comments that use negative language in describing HillaryChildren like my grandson or Joph. They repeat the things said about her by first the right wing and then pick up by the rest of media and even progressives, because if a lie is repeated enough it becomes the truth in the public arena. I know people who are almost as far on the left as I am, who don't like Hillary due to some of the misinformation put out there over the last 30 years.

They cry about how she stayed with Bill even though it is true that he has been show to have been with several women, while they are married. What if they decided that that's okay for him to be poly. While I don't have any other partners, Jonwin has another girl friend he see whenever he can and I am in full knowledge of that and friends with her. But since there is very little acceptance of openly poly people, most of us hide in the closet. Still if you look, more and more of us are coming out and being open about our relationships. I'm happy ith just one man right now, but I will say if someone else came around who is poly and doesn't mind being second in my life, he or she would be welcome to meet and become friends with Paul.

Then though she wrote a book title "It Takes a Whole Village to Raise a Child," the work she has done for children is never mention in the major media outlets. Children like my grandson or Joph's son would be sent to special schools, so not to be seen by the rest of society still if she hadn't work to make education a right of all children. Back then many children had to stay home without any schooling, because the school wouldn't accommodate their needs, due to being in a wheelchair, blind or deaf. Physically Disable doesn't mean people are less intelligent. Though I miss the laws passed for getting speech therapy by always a year or two of being a grade too high, I worked with my local state delegate to get laws pass for other children who needed help with speech therapy beyond the primary grades. In my county it was only offer in elementary schools, so even though I was known to need it all through my schooling, I had to suffer from misunderstanding of my speech and having what was then a unknown disability in processing language.

The IDEA has given all of my children and grand children, as well as nieces and nephews the educations children like me were denied for years. Without it my Daughters wouldn't have been able to get GED's and be able to attend college. Only one has decided to work for her degree right now and she is the most dyslexic of them. She wouldn't be getting 2 degrees in Theater and Costume Design next May without people like Hillary who work hard to make sure she would get the help she needs to finish with Honors.

So I support electing our first America Female President should be Hillary.
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#178 Sep 05 2016 at 7:05 AM Rating: Good
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And this is why gamergate is a thing. Drones aren't any worst then the Smart Missiles Bush used. They are tool of War and even I as a pasifist realize that while I rather not have to use them because there are so many civilian casualties, we can't sit back and not do anything when others are engaged in battles against our values.

So go ahead and say what you want. I'm a grown woman and I won't go running away crying about how you are just all big mean bullies. Just know I will re-post anything I feel that goes to far for my allies to see and laugh at you for doing so. Sadly I don't have the key to the air lock here like Jim Wright uses on trolls.
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#179 Sep 05 2016 at 7:48 AM Rating: Good
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Yeah, a tool of war being used on non-military personnel the USA hasn't declared war on and who are in capable of retaliating. You don't need to hark back to Bush for a male actor doing the same thing, Obama is wholly complicit in the drone strikes. Rather ruins your attempt to portray my criticism of drone strikes as some kind of misogynist attack on Clinton, though, doesn't it?

They are tool of War and even I as a pasifist realize that while I rather not have to use them because there are so many civilian casualties

If you advocate war & violence, you're not a pacifist. Not doing those things is the exact and entire meaning of the word.

we can't sit back and not do anything when others are engaged in battles against our values

Wow. Actually, you have a point. Maybe Bush is the best comparison for Clinton, seeing as her supporters have taken to parroting his meaningless rhetoric wholesale. You're right, Clinton and Bush are morally equivalent.

Just know I will re-post anything I feel that goes to far for my allies to see and laugh at you for doing so.

Bit old for this kind of thing, aren't you?
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#180 Sep 05 2016 at 8:20 AM Rating: Decent
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ElneClare wrote:
And this is why gamergate is a thing. Drones aren't any worst then the Smart Missiles Bush used. They are tool of War and even I as a pasifist realize that while I rather not have to use them because there are so many civilian casualties, we can't sit back and not do anything when others are engaged in battles against our values.

So go ahead and say what you want. I'm a grown woman and I won't go running away crying about how you are just all big mean bullies. Just know I will re-post anything I feel that goes to far for my allies to see and laugh at you for doing so. Sadly I don't have the key to the air lock here like Jim Wright uses on trolls.


Womenz.. they can't even troll right. How can they expect to have a president surrogate ( assuming they assume HRC is truly a hardcore feminist at heart )?
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#181 Sep 05 2016 at 10:03 AM Rating: Good
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"C" does not mean "Classified"

C is a paragraph marking for "Confidential." The lowest level of controlled information. Confidential is not Secret (S) or Top Secret (TS). Confidential material is typically not classified in and of itself, but is controlled because if combined with other specific information may give away schedules, capabilities, operations, or intentions.

For example: A ship's logistics report is confidential. Now, how many cans of navy beans and how many cases of frozen pork chops are taken onboard isn't classified in and of itself, but a sudden onload of stores might indicate the fleet is preparing to deploy. The type and amount of that material might give hints as to where the ship is going and how long it plans on staying. For example: There's nothing classified about Malarone, a common drug used to prevent malaria. A ship out of Norfolk taking on a six month supply of antimalarial medications wouldn't tell me, a former intel officer, exactly where the ships are going, but it sure does narrow the possibilities. Combine that with other preparations -- such as what types of pre-deployment training exercises the ship is conducting -- and I can make a pretty good guess. This is why those reports are confidential.

This is what I used to do for a living.

Gaining access to a piece of confidential information might tell you something. Then again, it probably won't -- not without knowing what you're looking for. Not without having all the other pieces of the puzzle. For example: Navy ships operating routinely in southern waters, the Caribbean say, always carry antimalarial drugs. So knowing a ship operating out of Jacksonville Navy Base or Key West or Gulfport, Mississippi, took on those stores, even though that information is contained in a confidential logistics reports, tells you nothing -- not without additional information.

Remember, it turned out we had all the information necessary to predict 9-11. We knew the hijackers were in the country. We knew some of them were taking pilot training -- and not concerned about landing the aircraft. We knew they were shady. We knew they were talking. We knew it all. But we never put all those little confidential pieces together. Not until it was way too late. That's the nature of intelligence work. It's easy to predict the past. The present, the future, that's a whole different ball game.

Should confidential information have ended up on a private server? No.

And the State Department should have done a much better job of managing their information. But while something marked (C) is controlled information, yes, it isn't some vital ultra top secret that would destroy America if it got out. Confidential is literally at the level of how many cans of beans a ship took on.

What Americans seem to be missing here is this: this situation would never have existed in the first goddamned place if Congress and the various agencies tasked with supporting Cabinet Secretaries had done their jobs in the first place by providing regulation, funding, and the proper communications support and security. They didn't. In fact when asked to provide that support by the White House for Secretary Clinton, they refused.

C doesn't not mean "Classified."

But Trump, yeah, he knows what he's talking about.


( Photo of Trumps tweet)

This is the stuff of the GOP lies. I need to also go back and copy and paste David Garrold's posts on Clinton that I shared on facebook.

I was a navy wife and knew that my ex and I couldn't mention certain things about his deployments just for this reason.

Also any post made since Saturday is due to be full of typos and spelling errors due to pain levels that are gone through the roof. I gain the right to be totally incoherent for the next few weeks.
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#182 Sep 05 2016 at 11:08 AM Rating: Good
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Meh. I don't bash Hilary. It's pretty much set in stone by now that she'll be the next president given a stingray doesn't roll a perfect 20 near her and land its venomous barb into her heart. I'm actually very thankful it's not going to be someone like Ted Cruz or Marco Rubio. If we're talking about women, I'd much rather someone like Elizabeth Warren be president but that wasn't happening. Hilary has said some pretty conservative things that have rubbed me the wrong way, but honestly-- the worst case scenario with her is she'll be another president like Obama who's constantly trying to appease the Republicans whereas I'd much prefer a president who's not afraid to tell them to eat **** and die.

Hilary is alright with me I guess Smiley: thumbsup
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#183 Sep 05 2016 at 2:13 PM Rating: Good
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And this is why gamergate is a thing.

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/sigh. I don't have it in me right now to argue. Maybe tomorrow.
#184 Sep 06 2016 at 7:27 AM Rating: Excellent
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Yeah yeah, Ghostbusters flopped because men, gaming sucks because women, etc etc.
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#185 Sep 06 2016 at 7:45 AM Rating: Good
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HRC's hands are forever adrip with the blood of the children she's murdered, but she did make it easier for Elneclare's daughter to get a degree in costume design. Kind of a yin & yang, all comes out in the wash style of thing, I suppose.

Edited, Sep 6th 2016 9:49am by Kavekkk
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#186 Sep 06 2016 at 7:48 AM Rating: Good
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/sigh. I don't have it in me right now to argue. Maybe tomorrow.


Uh, didn't you read Elneclare's post? I am the voice of gamergate now. You have to be against it. I recommend you start out parodying the critics' positions but start slowly internalising them over time until you become a proud feminist.

I believe in you, Poldaran, you can do it.
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#187 Sep 06 2016 at 7:49 AM Rating: Good
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I find that after about a day, I just can't care. Whatever. You do you. That said, apparently a Hillary group, Hillary For America, whatever the heck that is(PAC? Official campaign? Whatever it is, it's verified), is gamedropping now. Apparently, according the media narrative, we're no longer Bernie Bros. We're Alt Right. Not sure if that's a step up or down.
#188 Sep 06 2016 at 7:54 AM Rating: Good
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Well, the idea originally was to use your crusade to slander Bernie and his supporters and tar them with the air of misogyny. But that's not necessary anymore. The enemy HRC has always been at war with now is Trump's base, the alt right, so you're them now.

Basically, your ultimate place in the Clintonian cosmos, as a kind of Platonian ideal pejorative, has stayed the same, so I'd say it's a lateral move.
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#189 Sep 06 2016 at 8:25 AM Rating: Excellent
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Is Gamergate even a thing any longer? I mean, beyond as a catch-all for various elements on Twitter, etc? Certainly no one takes them seriously these days as any journalism reform group or anything like that. The highlight of the movement seemed to be getting a couple ads pulled (since restored) and now it's just getting all excited that someone might be mentioning you on Buzzfeed.
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#190 Sep 06 2016 at 9:05 AM Rating: Excellent
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#191 Sep 06 2016 at 9:39 AM Rating: Excellent
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Is Gamergate even a thing any longer? I mean, beyond as a catch-all for various elements on Twitter, etc?
Think of it as Allakhazam circa 2011-12 or so. Past it's prime, losing relevance, but still with enough dedicated core members to be marginally relevant at times.
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Well, relevant to itself. Which isn't a bad comparison.

A couple years ago, people were talking about GG and debating what it meant. These days, I still hang out in gaming forums, read some gaming media and at least casually have my fingers on the pulse of what's going on and the only rare times GG gets mentioned is as a joke. But I'm sure that, in the actual GG haunts and Twitter-spheres, they continue to declare their value, stroke their magnificent neckbeards and thrill at the sight of a Salon article mentioning them in passing.
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#193 Sep 06 2016 at 10:07 AM Rating: Good
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Twitter is the only place I see them really still active. Twitter is clamping down the the worst ones though, so their days are number.

Sad Puppies are still a thing though, as they gamed the new DragonCon awards. Not hard to do, as all you needed was a working email address to vote. People are speculating that many could have used multiple email accounts to vote for their slate.
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Right. Remember the time DragonCons were gamed by Sad Puppies? With email addresses? Yeah. Smiley: um
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#195 Sep 06 2016 at 5:06 PM Rating: Good
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So... what... do the sad puppies' tears protect them against the dragoncons' fire breath or something?

(I don't know what Sad Puppies or DragonCons are...)
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So... what... do the sad puppies' tears protect them against the dragoncons' fire breath or something?

(I don't know what Sad Puppies or DragonCons are...)


One is a group of depressed furries, and the other one is a the group of convicts who play D&D. They are locked in a longstanding trolling war.
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They are locked in a longstanding trolling war.
Sounds like the great tumblr Independence Day Raid of 2014.
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"C" does not mean "Classified"

C is a paragraph marking for "Confidential." The lowest level of controlled information. Confidential is not Secret (S) or Top Secret (TS). Confidential material is typically not classified in and of itself, but is controlled because if combined with other specific information may give away schedules, capabilities, operations, or intentions.

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This is what I used to do for a living.

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C doesn't not mean "Classified."


Ok. I'm sure this guy means well, but he's misrepresenting the facts under the color of experience. There are currently three levels of classification:

1. Confidential
2. Secret
3. Top Secret

All three are "classified". So when a symbol shows "C", it is absolutely correct to say that the information is classified. It's classified "confidential".

He's playing some word games to make it seem like these are two separate things, as though since the "C" means "confidential" that people are wrong to say that this means the information is classified. They're not. All data that is confidential is also classified. The fact that the "C" doesn't stand for "classified" has no bearing on that fact.

My god. How can someone so intentionally write something so misleading.

Edited, Sep 7th 2016 7:18pm by gbaji
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#199 Sep 07 2016 at 9:11 PM Rating: Good
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gbaji wrote:
My god. How can someone so intentionally write something so misleading.
He learned by reading your posts here?


ZING!!






Smiley: tongue


Edited, Sep 7th 2016 9:17pm by Bijou
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Not hard to do, as all you needed was a working email address to vote.
Actually, you need a paid membership to vote. The CHORFs were buying them for those who said they'd vote against the Puppies in an attempt to stack the vote.

Edit: Oops, my bad, I was thinking of the Hugos. Not sure about Dragoncon. None of the puppies I follow said anything about Dragoncon.


Edited, Sep 7th 2016 10:35pm by Poldaran
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gbaji wrote:
My god. How can someone so intentionally write something so misleading.
He learned by reading your posts here?

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