Time to give Trump Presidency it's own Thread.Follow

If Papadopolous just copped to a lesser charge to make it an easy day for the FBI, they wouldn't have kept it sealed for months. Papadopolous agreed to flip, spent a couple months working with the feds and the plea bargain wasn't revealed until Mueller had what he needed (or all he was going to get) from Papadopolous. There would have been no reason to keep it secret for months if it was rote "take the minor charge to avoid gambling on the judge" stuff.

This is pretty much note for note like the Grand Budget thread which was the genesis of "News from anywhere". Some of us are actually reading and digesting the news and making educated statements and Gbaji is basically throwing partisan haymakers under the guise of "I don't need that devil's news, I have it all figured out myself".

Also, not to make the obvious point, but if Papadopolous was "all they had", Manafort & Gates wouldn't be out on bail right now.

I'm running on the assumption right now that being an outsider who wants to drain the swamp means you don't get the pick of the litter when it comes to people who are good advisors/managers/whatever to a political campaign.

Just don't take their advice and do something stupid prior to letting them go and you're golden. Think that's what we're trying to figure out at this point. The guy was pretty obviously sketchy and not fully vetted before he came onboard, and there were plenty of people in the campaign that didn't like him, or any of the others caught up in this mess so far. Then again, you play the cards you're dealt. Too many people didn't want to be associated with Trump at that point in the election, and someone with a clean record in politics would be a lot to ask even for a well-liked candidate.

I have Podesta pinned as more of a sacrificial lamb kind of thing right now. Getting him gone would make it appear the Dems took their lumps and rooted out the evil on their side, making any resistance to further investigation from Trump seem more suspect in the court of public opinion.



Edited, Nov 1st 2017 9:57am by someproteinguy

Someone has to hide all the double posts.

They need to stop being so extra.

Trump's cabinet and advisors are largely made up of unqualified sycophants and cronies with conflicts of interest. Trump had trouble attracting strong talent because people expected him to bomb and didn't want to be attached to that mess, not because he threatened anyone's "swamp".

Edited, Nov 1st 2017 7:49pm by Jophiel

For my next act...I CLONE MYSELF!!

Edited, Nov 1st 2017 9:54pm by Bijou

The only thing funnier than the "drain the swamp" pledge was how out of the way they went to demonize Goldman Sachs only to basically fill half the cabinet with them.

Meh, I used it because it was his words, and it works well enough. Also what Joph said too, there was plenty of reasons not to want to be attached to that mess he had going, especially for much of the race when he looked certain to lose. Don't think he ended up with these people by chance.

For what it's worth though I think there's some truth to the claim. In that he seems more interested in putting his own cronies into places of power, rather than recycling those from previous administrations. SpoilerMy side wonders if he's more interested in weakening many institutions, or using his appointments as political distractions, rather than simply having a traditional appointment like fiscal conservative running the department. Kind of took "drain the swamp" was code for "get on board with my agenda or I'm replacing you." He's made plenty of threats to other Republicans along those lines, and someone defying him usually brings out the "drain the swamp" rhetoric from the base, regardless of past allegiance.

Basically it's a politically savvy way of being a giant ass to everyone who disagrees with him.

You have to give it to them, they have some balls to do it now. There seems to be general the air of imperceptibly shuffling away from POTUS among the political class.. what exactly are they trying to gain here? Do they face hardcore Trump electorate or something?

Got to use those tax dollars for something.

Was that the same lawyer that catfished Jr into a meeting about adoption?