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#1 Nov 02 2005 at 1:41 PM Rating: Decent
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... Just add lvl 75.

A lot of people I used to know and help and that have helped me have since obtained lvl 75 and decided that they "know-all" or are "too good" for the lower levels. This saddens me greatly.

Examples:

ZM5 run (ls run) whm in alliance decides that her new bf is gonna come tank for us (75 pld) ok fine. Gets into alliance, proceeds to not listen to any instruction at all. Encourages his gf to do the same. We all make it thru ifrits, fine. We win fight, everyone gets thier headstone. (lvl 75 pld didnt come as pld, but chose to use diff job and tell alliance "he knew what he was doing," and left alliance, taking gf thru ifrits. Didnt want to wait on us bcause "smaller groups are better thru here. This is my playground. I dont need to listen." GF sends me tells aftwards calling everyone in alliance n00bs and that her bf took her thru there cause she trusts him.) When the bf (used to be friend as well) asked me what was wrong, I was straight with him. He then took offense and said that I was the one with additude. Even tho the whole alliance was pissed at them for what they did. And many of the Alliance asked when he changed into an "Elitest." Both used to be friends, now on Blist. (lvl 75 means you are too good for anyone else and the rest of us should bow b4 your power)

Old time friend of mine, we spent countless hours on game helping each other. started out as rdm (like i did) we always watched out for each other. He was working on lvling to 75 pld and went thru some pretty rough times. This guy really worked his *** off, and got lvl 75 pld b4 the exp adjustment update. One of his cardnal rules was ALWAYS "if you are the one receiving help, you get what you came for nothing else. To allow the "helpers" to make it worth thier time" Ok fine, to show respect we adopted this rule and have lived by it ever since. We all go to help him get something he needed for blm. We get to camp, stuff going great. drops are now being lotted on by him and he is throwing fits about others beating his lots. When asked about this, he replies "oh well" and continues to lot on things. (aparently being lvl 75 with any job means you can do w/e you want)

Another person I knew a ways back also hit higher levels and has worked his butt off to get where he is. I run into him in palbourogh(sp) mines. Was helping a friend get keys for crapzam. We trained a bunch of mobs and then killed them all, this person then comes to us and says, you know if you needed help with keys just ask. Dont train anymore. I told this person to bite me, it wasnt his or anyone's place to tell others how to play the game.
No one died due to train and friend got thier key. (lvl 75 means you know it all and those under your level always need your help, reguardless)

There have been MANY other instances, these are just the fresh ones in my mind. Being lvl 75 is not the end all of FFXI. Frankly I am tired of such additudes. It is disgusting to me that people turn out like this. People i thought were friends.



On the other hand, I have met and known a few people that have been the opposite to this rule. GREAT examples to us all.

Tenmiles: knew him when we both started playing the game, awesome friend and mentor. Helped me (when few others wouldn't) with my Windy missions. A thousand thanks my friend.

Ryuho and Malina: Awesome people. Ryuho always willing to help and both always have positive additudes. Ryuho, once caught me with a rather mean comment in my bazaar >.< I was ashamed and removed it lol. Thanks for putting me on the right path again buddy.

These three have mentored me. I look to them as my examples.



Please don't let lvl 75 on a video game go to your head. Remember that there are REAL LIVE people behind the chars. and that in all reality your level 75 [insert job here] doesnt mean crap. I personally don't care what level you are, respect is respect. Everyone has mine until u show me a reason it should be otherwise.

~Ore
#2 Nov 02 2005 at 2:07 PM Rating: Decent
I'm sad to say that I have to agree with you, most people do end up like that. Fortunately like you said, there are a select few who stay as nice as they were when they were level 13.

Don't worry Orefise. It doesn't matter if the majority is rude, as long as there are a few Tenmiles', Ryuho's, and Malina's, the bad is insignificant. And you don't give yourself any credit! You were a sweetheart when you were level 40, and you are still as wonderful as ever. ^_^
#3 Nov 02 2005 at 2:11 PM Rating: Decent
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Where to start...

1. I'm not a grammar ****, english is my 2nd langage. But I learned in 4th grade that english sentences DO have a subject in order to give the verb a sense.

2. Back on topic : I'll just quote, you read between your own lines.

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(lvl 75 means you are too good for anyone else and the rest of us should bow b4 your power)
(aparently being lvl 75 with any job means you can do w/e you want)

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We trained a bunch of mobs and then killed them all, this person then comes to us and says, you know if you needed help with keys just ask. Dont train anymore. I told this person to bite me, it wasnt his or anyone's place to tell others how to play the game.


I couldn't have said it in better words ^.^


3. Level is in no way an indicator of intelligence. It's easy to sort of say lvl 75s think they can do anything ( bash me as you want, there is some truth there ), but in your first example, you have to remember who's doing who a favor. Let's say a miracle happens : I agreed to help for a stranger's G2. I did this damn thing about 30 times because there was a lot of people in my social LS who went through this at a time. If I'm helping a stranger, yes, I'll want things to go my way. I'm not gonna suffer the consequences of following someone who has no idea of what's coming. If my help is not appreciated, I just say " Good luck, I'll warp in 15 seconds, if you need a d2, now is the time ".


Which one do you prefer ?
a) A lvl 75 thinking he knows all.
b) A lvl 34 thinking he knows all.

Note: IMHO, that pld lvl 75 was right. Taking small groups to the headstone for ZM5 in ifrit's is easier than taking a whole alliance at once. Just think about it, what are the odds of 18 sneaks and 18 invisibles wearing at the same time ?


Edited, Wed Nov 2 14:36:52 2005 by Zachiel
#4 Nov 02 2005 at 2:17 PM Rating: Decent
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Please don't let lvl 75 on a video game go to your head. Remember that there are REAL LIVE people behind the chars. and that in all reality your level 75 [insert job here] doesnt mean crap. I personally don't care what level you are, respect is respect. Everyone has mine until u show me a reason it should be otherwise.



you forgot this...


I personally don't care what level you are, respect is respect. Everyone has mine until u show me a reason it should be otherwise.

I dont claim to be perfect, i am a real human being afterall. And since i have no clue who you are... just curious but why are you sooo upset over it?

Just try to read it, not deceipher it. "It's not a **** code."

Edited, Wed Nov 2 14:33:34 2005 by Orefise
#5 Nov 02 2005 at 2:23 PM Rating: Default
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<3 Ore

Lvl 75's suck :)
#6 Nov 02 2005 at 2:35 PM Rating: Decent
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I dont claim to be perfect, i am a real human being afterall. And since i have no clue who you are... just curious but why are you sooo upset over it?


I'm not upset, but rather amused but the contradictions in your post ^.^

What parts of my post sounds upset? >.<
#7 Nov 02 2005 at 2:46 PM Rating: Good
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I personally don't think that 75 is the magic number for that kind of attitude, but it is more of a virus that infects people as they reach the "end-game" point in their ffxi life. This is mainly due to the competetive nature of these types of shells. Whether it be between shells, or within members of each individual shell, the competetivness, feeds the "I'm better than you" attitude. If a person gets a certain rare drop, they have a high chance of contracting this virus because it "places" them at a level higher than most other people in the shell/game that can use it.

If there were a way to eliminate this, the game would be a much more enjoyable experience. However, due to human nature, that possibility is slim to no chance. Only thing you can really do is just ignore it and keep yourself from contracting the virus as well.
#8 Nov 02 2005 at 2:54 PM Rating: Decent
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ORefise is always correct regardless of what she says. Disagreeing with her is utter nonsense.



<3 Orefise



P.S. when are we doing your CoP and ZM stuff? Im down to help but after spenidn 2 million gil on Consumables for CoP in the last week my purse isnt happy, but if you need a warm body im always there.
#9 Nov 02 2005 at 3:01 PM Rating: Decent
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ive been lvl 75 for almost 2 years and have seen some ugly **** happen to people. Being lvl 75 doesnt mean anything. Some of the most idiotic people on our server are lvl 73+. One of them is mentioned in Orefises post. Your not tough cause you have 1+ 75 job, no one cares. People only care if your nice and honest. Being a person of your word. Orefise word is gold, what she says is Gospel to me just because of her kindness, and pure joy for helping others. If she posted a problem its a problem, and knowing who she is speaking of it is a "Elitest" attititude that player has. It will never be solved, and most likely get worst, we just need to ignore them <3
#10 Nov 02 2005 at 3:53 PM Rating: Good
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Wow... you sound like a vacuum cleaner, Jersey.

I agree with everything you've said Orefise... Except the part about training Palborough. IMO it is rude to train, whether it be farming, or trying to get key drops. I know it helps speed things up (when I was a n00b a high level BLM got me my Palborough key by training too) but if there's someone there who's also trying to get a key... I don't know. It just seems rude to me. I wouldn't do it if someone else was there. Kinda like a person grocery shopping, in the produce section, pick out oranges. Someone else just comes along and shoves the whole crate of oranges into his/her shopping cart and walks off without a word.

Oh and your "bite me" comment doesn't really help the situation.

Other than that, yeah, the other 2 examples are great.
#11 Nov 02 2005 at 4:08 PM Rating: Decent
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3. Level is in no way an indicator of intelligence. It's easy to sort of say lvl 75s think they can do anything ( bash me as you want, there is some truth there ), but in your first example, you have to remember who's doing who a favor. Let's say a miracle happens : I agreed to help for a stranger's G2. I did this damn thing about 30 times because there was a lot of people in my social LS who went through this at a time. If I'm helping a stranger, yes, I'll want things to go my way. I'm not gonna suffer the consequences of following someone who has no idea of what's coming. If my help is not appreciated, I just say " Good luck, I'll warp in 15 seconds, if you need a d2, now is the time ".



sorry for the misunderstanding, on the ZM5 run.... I was a helper, the run wasnt for me.(only the gf asked the bf to come, no one else. He wasnt and didnt do any favors for ANY of us)

I still listened, and followed instruction from the person that organized it. (whom, btw, didnt need it either. If you pay attention you will see it was a LS run. We do this often in my LS so that all may benefit)

I can see you point on the training thing, and my words certainly didnt help. I appologize for that. However, i highly doubt a lvl 60+rdm needed keys for crapzam.(especially when they already have a 75 brd)

Edited, Wed Nov 2 16:36:08 2005 by Orefise

Edited, Wed Nov 2 21:53:15 2005 by Orefise
#12 Nov 02 2005 at 4:50 PM Rating: Default
I will never understand people's hatred for Ifrit's. It is easy with 2, it's easy with 18. All you need is people that will listen, and one person with patience, and that knows where to go. Now, for my "board fans" on here, if you feel the need to turn this thread into another little attempt at a riot, just PM with your barbs, I grow tired of having to respond on here. This is what happened on that ZM5 run.

-I led it, it was me. A few nights before that, I led a ZM4 run with Ore and Sleek too(mind you, none of us needed them, we were helping LS get them). This frikkin whm that Ore spoke of, is one of the most non compliant, unlistening rags you would ever meet. She is the type who no matter what you say/do/help with, her lv 75 boyfriend has done it, and knows more than anyone(to that lv 75 boyfriend, I have no beef with you, truth be told, so we're cool). We all went out of our way to help this whm countless times, getting her AF, doing missions quests, doing BCNMs, etc. I'll give you a pattern of behavior:

a)Worm's Turn, back in my "needing Ni like drugs" days. We do an all LS BCNM, and the split was going to be me getting Ni, and the sum of all the other treasure to be divided amongst the 5 remaining members. This was proposed, agreed upon, and carried out. Whm orb Erase dropped(didnt need it, she was 60+ whm), but instantly she wanted to switch to "orb-drop" rules.
b) ZM5, Ore had to go back to jeuno to get a few members for Terrigans headstone. Well, about 5 of them needed Earth too(solo one in Caves), so while Ore was in jeuno, Sleek had DC, so Ore told me to take the 5 ragtags through caves to get theirs, which was fine. Took them through(keep in mind that this whm NEVER cast sneak/invis, as she thought no EP would aggro), and we got out in the desert. It dawns on me that we are split up in alliance, I tell them all to drop, and for with me. That way when we get Earth, she can Tele us out of there. This didnt sit well with her, and it took a good 15 minutes of explaining to her that we would reform when we regrouped. But she kept saying she HAD to have refresh for the fight(again, NO fight till Terrigan).
c) The ZM5 run/Ifrit's leg of it, done a different day, to accomodate schedules. It is decided before I even got there that "I" am running this show. Ore is a forgetful little doll, and didnt know the way, Sleek wasnt on for this one, leaving me as the only one who knew where to go. Whm agrees, she WILL listen to me, and she did, till we got to the cauldron. I ask everyone to gather on me, and when I stop, to recast, need it or not, and it's cake. Soon as we gather, off she goes. Most people in alliance(all LS) were hoping the 2 of them died, as it would be poetic. Well, whatever, I lead 12 people to the bottom of the Cauldron in about 15 minutes, using only 4 oils and powders each, and no aggro(Ash wasnt up, talk about luck^^). Afterwards, I tell Ore privately that I am no longer down for anything if this annoyance is coming, as I was at the end of my rope with her, but that was a me-Ore conversation. What happened with Ore and her I'll never know(and don't care, as it is none of my business). All I know is that she is no longer in the LS, and I get a random slapping every now and then(which is nothing new).
#13 Nov 02 2005 at 5:47 PM Rating: Good
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ZM5 (Ifrits) is hard on most people. You'll either make or lose friends there. It's stressful to hear melee shout "I'm lost" or "I have no powder left" and then hear mages go "Magic aggro!". I think the key is not to rush through there. Make sure everyone is in a group and go through there as safely as possible. Small parties are better yes, but full alliances don't have to be harder.

On this mission nobody should pull that level rank ********* everyone is there, everyone has to get to the end, nobody deserves it more than another. I've helped on two occasions there and been for myself once as well, it's not friendly, I know I nearly had multiple heartattacks with all the aggro, most of the time because people just wanted to rush it and leave others behind.

There's alot of 75's out there that wouldn't think twice about helping people out, but then there's the few "spoilt brat" ones that couldn't give a rats *** when it comes to helping others. It's a sad truth but it happens.

Note: When I'm 75 (soon) and people want me to use my WMD on different mission mobs (and I'm online at that time), feel free to ask me. I like blowing things up.
#14 Nov 02 2005 at 8:21 PM Rating: Good
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I'm level 66 Red Mage and 42 Beastmaster.

AND I STILL OWN ALL THOSE NOOBS!
#15 Nov 02 2005 at 8:30 PM Rating: Decent
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Well, I would just like to personally say that this is not an attitude that is created as soon as one attains level 75. Granted, there are those who add to the stereotype of the "elitist 75," but such generalizations shouldn't be made.
I understand completely where you are coming from. I myself have had some level 75s tell me what they know and what I don't know, as if that solves anything. But, there are still those of that level or close to it who are helpful such as Cadant and Etho. Now I know you did stress that point at the end of your post, but I would just like to reiterate the fact that people are not instantly an "elitist" once they hit that level.
For example, I have met several new players in the game that have told me that what I'm doing is wrong. The most recent example of how one new player told me that monks are only tanks and that damage dealing is secondary.
To end my point of view, I agree in the fact that there are those who feel as if they have instant superiority once they have attained a "high level" but character traits are not as fickle as a level. Character is something that develops throughout one's whole life. These "elitists" did not one day decide to act that way, they had always been that way. Whether or not you were privy to their past actions doesn't mean you truly know who they are or their real behavior.
I am currently level 60 and am looking forward to 75. Though there are those who give that level a bad name, there are others who still enjoy the game for what it is and allow others to do so as well. If you truly believe that the level 75 image has been tarnished, show others that their is more to this game than being level 75. I'm sure that there are others who feel the way you do, I being one of them, and would certainly try to help reclaim the fun back in that level.
#16 Nov 03 2005 at 2:37 AM Rating: Excellent
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I thought I knew everything when I hit 75 the first time. About two weeks later I realized I was still a freaking n00b. I just hit 75 for the second time, and I still have a lot to learn.

In my linkshell I'm known as the answer lady. I've acquired enough knowledge of lower level party play and quests to answer a good deal of questions. If I ever have an opinion outside of flat facts, whoever I'm talking to will be sure to know it's just an opinion. I've been criticized a few times for having an opinion. I think it's because I am 75 and people naturally assume I must be stuck up because of it.

When I was a lower level I felt like level 75 players were better than me. I've come to discover that's not always the case.

If you're going to judge someone based on their level, or take a certain attitude based on what level you are, you're just playing the game. But the unique thing about MMO is that there are real people behind those other characters, and a lot of them are worth getting to know. Consider it, if you are one of those judgmental-types.

Edit: Hmm, this sounds too directed, doesn't it? It's a very general 'You' I'm using. Just wanted to throw in my 2 cents. And I met another ******** tonight who's 'been a level 75NIN for two years now' so obviously he knows everything and thus can't be civil to anyone. Love that.

Edited, Fri Nov 4 03:30:40 2005 by Morwyne
#17 Nov 03 2005 at 2:41 AM Rating: Decent
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Grammar (N)azi....lol!
Grammar Check (Do you have it?)
"I'm not upset, but rather amused but(???) the contradictions in your post ^.^"

Ore did leave a lot out of her post. I was in the party/alliance in all 3 of the examples she gave. She should have clearly pointed out that in all three situations she was helping (amazingly, only once was for me).
Crimson is correct in his statement (and man I hate saying that because it will probably go to his head...lol) that it was agreed on by everybody in the alliance at the time that they would listen and follow his lead including the WHM that he dislikes. I will add that her bf (although he is not well like for other reasons) was not in the alliance at the time that this was agreed upon. He was made aware of the game plan prior to entering Ifrit's. I was on that trip. The first time I attempted it I went through 3 stacks of oils and powders and didn't get the headstone. This time through I used 6 powders and 6 oils and I did get the headstone.
In the 3rd scenario, I was helping as well as she was. She didnt elaborate nearly enough on what the person said before she made the "bite me" comment. There was quite a bit more said before she got to that point.

I will add that it doesn't all happen at Level 75. Sometimes it starts before that magic momment. I will add an instance for somebody I have been in parties/alliances with on many occassions. We where farming in Prom.-Mea. I got the drop that you use to get the map. The party decides to go to the ??? on the top floor and try to get the map. In all of the previous times that I have gone with him to help with Promys. we have avoided fighting at all cost. On the 3rd floor, John J. Rambo decides that we should fight some mobs there for some drop. To make a long story short, every member of the party ends up K-O'd and Home Pointing. It was hard for me to see this as I thought this was one person that would never get that kind of "walk on water" attitude.

It happens...

Thank you to Ataritwentyfive, Tenmiles, Telemachus, and the others who have attained true Elite Status by not acting elite at all. You are the bright spots in this game.


Edited, Thu Nov 3 02:57:49 2005 by BigpappapumpLakshmi

Edited, Thu Nov 3 03:00:31 2005 by BigpappapumpLakshmi
#18 Nov 03 2005 at 3:12 PM Rating: Decent
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Crimson wrote:
I will never understand people's hatred for Ifrit's. It is easy with 2, it's easy with 18. All you need is people that will listen...


That, right there, is most often the problem.
The larger the group, the greater this difficulty increases.

I've seen good, fairly smooth Ifrit's ZM5 runs (with the exception of the Ash Dragon room), and I've also seen the most abysmal, chaotic, messy experiences in the game, there.



Jersey wrote:
Lvl 75's suck :)


I suck harder than you. XD

It's true though. I still intend (eventualy, after I'm done with all the things I plan to do while 75) to de-level myself back as far down as I can go (I think EXP loss stops at level 3?) before I leave the game. And then go out and get killed by a tiny mandragora before retiring in Windurst with a smile on my face.
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    #19 Nov 03 2005 at 3:43 PM Rating: Decent
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    I wonder at which point I have ever said ALL lvl 75 are that way??? *rereads what she said*

    hmmmm.... nope I said some people I knew. And that it saddened me greatly. But nothing about ALL lvl 75's. Unless you think my little title and subject means ALL lvl 75's. It was simply a play on an old saying "Instant *******, just add alcohol" Unfortuneately there is no way to assure everyone understands that unless I do spell it out for you, so there ya go.

    Also, if you read the whole thing you see that I further state it isn't ALL 75's where I thank some people I know are exceptions to it.

    If you also check, I AM lvl 75. I speak from experience, NOT out my ***, about things I have no clue about.
    #20 Nov 07 2005 at 6:16 PM Rating: Good
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    Hiya Ore and Big...(my mirror image friends, hehe)

    In my opinion, things seem to change for some folks when they hit 60-65. If it weren't for an incredible static my WHM never would have hit 72. They moved on, and after 2-3 parties with random folks I knew my WHM was finished. For me it seems that people weren't enjoying the "game" at these higher levels. They were almost manic with their intensity to reach 75. And then when they begin to do HNM/GODS events they become so competitive.

    For me, this is a game. I play to escape and enjoy myself. I don't gravitate towards competition in real life either. I play for fun..... which is why I'm BST now. I don't know if my WHM will ever reach 75, probably not.

    I am usually up for dusting it off and helping anyone out though, I don't even care if I die, lol. Creep and I are always out for a good time, and it's so fun to redo those lower level events. It rekindles our love for this game. Ah I'm feeling melancholy...
    #21 Nov 08 2005 at 5:24 AM Rating: Excellent
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    I agree w/ that myself, i mean I know alot of people who rushed to 75 and basically just said "thanx for helpin me, ***** you guys, BYE!" And not look back when I ask them for somethin, its the same damn thing, over and over again. Or they think becuase they have 3 lvls over me they have all of the experience in the world. I mean jebous, I don't want to hit 75 because of some of those reasons, the simple fact of I hope to god my head does not inflate incredibly huge.

    Ore, it happens, yeah I find it funny when going to things like ZM's or CoP missions and the highest lvl, example: lvl 75 does not bring sneaks and powders. Or does not complete a specific point and when we finish and we ask "Did you do this" they are just dumbfounded. ; ;.
    #22 Nov 08 2005 at 8:06 AM Rating: Default
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    Grammar (N)azi....lol!
    Grammar Check (Do you have it?)
    "I'm not upset, but rather amused but(???) the contradictions in your post ^.^"


    I'm sorry, but her I have to rise to defend Zachiel, he never say that he was better than anyone in english writing skill, he just ask for ppl to put a minimun of effort into writing a post. Like just re-reading it before push the button "Post Message".

    As a person that have english as a second language, I can understand the difficulty of thinking in a language (in this case French) then writing the idea in english. Sometime, the phrase structure and events some grammar's rule will be used as if the sentence was in french.. because I am THINKING french. So is Zachiel.

    Beside, for a second language, I think Zach is very good at it. If you are an american, our second language should be (I think) French or Spanish. Can you write in your second language as good as Zachiel write in english?

    On the real topic (sorry OP) I think that level 75 just bring to surface what really are the ppl... I mean, at 75 you don't have to have a good reputation other than inside your HNMLS and/or dynamis LS. So that allow for some bad ppl to show their true side...right?

    [EDIT] for some grammar error

    Edited, Tue Nov 8 08:25:43 2005 by Pryssant
    #23 Nov 08 2005 at 10:40 AM Rating: Good
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    Ore, I just hope you don't put me in the *bad 75 ppl* group >.<

    I wouldn't give a f__k if most people did, but to me, Orefise's opinion matters ! :)
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    lol.... Hi Pink ^^ <3

    I agree with Tanta. I have stopped asking if they have it and if i dont see them use right away i cast sneak and invis on them. (Don't even waste my breath anymore) I always get told that they are saving for some piece of armor and therefore HAVE oils/powders but if I can use my mp i should. (Like it's my responsibility to help them save gil, while they ***** about port prices going up) so w/e I do it. That doesn't bother me as much as it used to.

    I guess all i am saying in this post, is just FREAKIN SHOW RESPECT! yeah, there i said it. I don't care if you are low level or not. I don't form my opinion of you based on your level, OR the gear you have or don't have. Try to teach others and not belittle them. Geebus, is it that hard of a concept to grasp?! Whine, complain about everything in the book, try doing something constructive... try teaching the n00bs instead of laughing at them.

    And for those that would like to bash on what i just said... I can often times be found in Jeuno shouting out free ports or helping random people, OR in the dunes trying to help out. So, I do try to set the example. Sometimes the negetive is easier to see, especially when shoved in your face.

    I have started a lvl 75 post for those that I have found that are the true "elite" people. So, if this is tooo negetive for ya, sorry... go check that one out =P

    as always,
    ~Ore
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    I always get told that they are saving for some piece of armor and therefore HAVE oils/powders but if I can use my mp i should. (Like it's my responsibility to help them save gil, while they ***** about port prices going up) so w/e I do it. That doesn't bother me as much as it used to.


    I don't understand what you are even trying to prove there. You just said "They are cheap and saving for gear." Then said the same thing but said its not your fault they ***** about the tele prices going up...i'm seriously lost.

    Otherwise, I agree with what you say mostly. I hate saying no to helping people but sometimes I have to say no. And yet, they act as if I am the biggest ******* for doing that. I understand that you are upset because friends do this all the time. But, give them a break some times. At 75 alot of people become pricks and the same people you are complaining about deal with the same thing. It is a sad sad fact about the game. Most of the time I dont have time for myself. I'm not in an endgame LS anymore for various reasons. My main ls, the highest level outside of me is 60. So, i am constantly running around doing AF for them. It gets tiring and sometimes I have to say no to random people and even friends who ask for help. So, give them a break once in a while. If they are always too busy for you, then yeah..they are asses and changed. There are people who want the best gear possible and what sucks is, you have to spend ALOT of time in a god/hnm ls to be allowed to get said items.

    Sorry if this is all making no sense, i'm going on 5 hours of sleep and have had class all day. :(
    #26 Nov 11 2005 at 12:41 AM Rating: Decent
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    I got rated down for proclaiming my awesomeness!?

    FOOLISH MORTALS, I WILL DESTROY YOU!!!

    Edited, Fri Nov 11 00:54:01 2005 by Metah
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