The WolverineFollow

Remember stuff, or flash back dreams? i've yet to see the movie, so I don't know.

Since Adamantium is supposed to be indestructible even a paper thin coating on the bones is enough to make them unbreakable. At least that's the amount I believed they used since the material is extremely rare and hard to produce in large quantities, that's why he still has high agility.

That whole end scene in XO:W really messed up the whole memory issue, that's for certain. It wasn't an issue of having amnesia, but of not knowing which memories were real and which were false. Then again that movie also had Sniktpool, the Merc Without a Mouth so I try to ignore anything it tried to establish as canon. I remember, but can't provide a source because I don't remember where I remember it from, but it was said that the adamantium added something like 100lbs to his overall weight. Which, much like everything else in comics probably changed a dozen times between creation to current. Like currently he can't really swim due to it.

What made the least sense to me is if why are the adamantium claws smooth knives when the bone claws are jagged? If it's just a coating of metal, shouldn't the metal claws also be jagged?

I've always figured that they removed the bones and replaced them with adamantium before the body could heal.

What confuses me is the notion that beheading Logan would kill him. Why? The brain doesn't manage the healing of wounds. Sure, it'll react to pain and release adrenaline and other hormones that will dull pain and help speed healing, but it wouldn't make sense for his healing factor to be linked to that. That would mean he could only heal wounds that caused pain. Things like adamantium poisoning wouldn't be covered.

Then again, his healing factor makes no sense in the first place, so meh.

Adamantium chain-mail cage under the skin, around the neck.

So there's a civil war-esque conflict in the ultimate universe? Is that what Ultimatum is?

I just started that universe. Read 1-12 (and 1/2) of Ultimate X-Men. Trying to figure out what I want to read, and what order.

Which largely boils down to whether or not I want to read Ultimate Fantastic Four. I know Johnny Storm is a main character in Ultimate Comics X-Men, so I sort of want to. I also don't like Reed Richards, so I sort of don't. But if his teenage re-imagining is better, I could deal.

I'm liking the series so far, though. I still dislike Cyclops but c'mon, that was always going to happen. And I love Storm and Marvel Girl's characterization in this one.

I saw it this weekend. It was good, but not fantastic. It is a *very* loose interpretation of the Frank Miller Graphic Novel. There are some "odd" changes that were made, some of which honestly made the plot far more complicated than the original. Several characters were basically split into two different characters, with different aspects of the story presented. Some characters were just changed entirely. And some were just added in.

Without giving anything away, it did make for a bit of a confusing story, since you weren't sure who was on who's side (which I suppose was the point). That would be fine, but there were a couple of choices made along the way that made sense from a story writing point of view (conceal who's doing what), but no sense from the characters point of view. I got the sense that a couple of key scenes were either deleted or shortened in the theatrical release because there was one glaring character choice that made no sense at all (but could have with like 10 seconds of additional film time). I say shortened because there's a particular scene that seems to cut away suddenly and you get the distinct impression there was supposed to be more of a reveal there (to the character involved) but that they didn't want the audience to see it, so they left it out. Had that scene continued, it could easily have explained a couple of other things which happen later that instead you were like "why did that person do that?"

They did somewhat turn the theme of the original graphic novel on its head though. Well, sorta. The big theme in the original was man versus animal, with Logan succeeding when he chooses to be the man. This is somewhat played out in the film, but then they kinda lose it halfway (guess they just can't entirely get away from "berserker guy waving his claws around" from a sales point of view). So we're left with him embracing the Wolverine, which is good for character continuation (and series continuation), but not really like the original theme.


This story absolutely takes place after the events in Xmen3, and leads into the next Xmen film directly (stay for the scene at the end btw). I was surprised they were that direct with the lead in, honestly. But cool as hell.

I'd recommend it. It's worth watching. Good action sequences, and it advances the story of the character in a reasonable way. You wont get the same deep character development that the graphic novel had, but this is the movies afterall.

Obviously he is a zombie.

After reading that spoiler FAQ, I think I'm going to go ahead and not see this. I'm too disappointed in the series overall for it to matter. As much as I love Hugh Jackman as Wolverine, this just sounds painful. Much as the first one was.

Yeah, but if all the important information is left on the cutting room floor, that doesn't stop it from being a shi**y movie.

In a normal film, all that time being devoted to action sequences is going to be spent establishing characterization and backstories that allows something like that to happen organically.

There's a difference between being bluntly told something and having it pan out over time.

If all the major plot elements to explain the events we see are happening off screen, it's not a cohesive film. I'm not interested in seeing irrelevant parts of a story and having to guess at what the real juicy content is. I want the freaking content.

That doesn't mean it needs to be narrated to me. But if you don't put it in, it's like having The Sixth Sense and cutting out the scenes in Willis' character's home. You just get told the truth at the end, it makes no sense, and you're just told you need to accept it. And that's ********* It's lazy film making. The details don't need to be obvious, but the important supplemental details still need to be IN the movie. And for an action film, the basic plot structure needs to be understandable by a casual watcher.

Basic plot structures can go deep, though. Avengers managed to have many, many levels of subtext and parallels providing food for thought. The exact reasons they were working together were never bluntly explained. Those you needed to figure out, you needed to think about how their different characters would interact. But the basic plot threshold was sufficient to tie them together so you could accept it was happening, even if you didn't want to dig into it and didn't fully understand it.