Casters will continue to recieve 1x their level for spec points. In addition to that they will recieve .5x their level half-way every level after 40.
For example : A level 40 will recieve 40 points. Half-way to level 41 they will recieve .5x[40]=20 points. Also their exp bar will 'reset' and no longer go below the half-way mark if they lose exp from death. The latter part applies to all classes levels 40-50. At level 41 they will recieve 1x[41]=41 points.
The reason to increase the total points casters will have past 40 is to simply allow them to play with the other spec lines they did not pursue. Because the total points are relatively small (220 total, which is only enough to move a secondary spec up to level 20, third to 4) the additional spells would not be comparable for that level. This doesn't make casters over-balanced but adds variety (fun) to the class.
Runes of Destruction
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Anonymous
are runes of destruction always trainable or do you have to have 5 pts into runecarving to get it the way that you have to have 5pts into suppression to get runes of suppression. thanks
Anonymous
Why do people keep saying like their gonna bring runecarving up to 50 then other spells up to 30? u can only max one thing, or am i wrong on this? i thought pure magic casters only got 1xLEVEL in spec points which would mean if u bring a spec to 50 then you wont be able to do anything else. I personally think that sucks but i guess its because of the fact that we get spells in 3 specs each level anyways, even though id much rather be able to get some of those runic walls in the supresion line then some of the stupid darkness spells. But if im mistaken or at some point we get more or anything please let me know because it would alter how i continue my RM.
Lvl 14 RM
Merlin~
Lvl 14 RM
Merlin~
Anonymous
taking the skill on anything to 50 is retarded, if your skill goes above your level from + skills you recieve NO benefits, therefore the most logical thing to do if you REALLY like the spells is to get it to the level where you get the last spell, because you will surely have enough + skills to take it to 50
Scholar
44 posts
You dont gain spells/abilities from any + to skill items so if i was lvl 47 and was missing a spell at lvl 50 and had +3 to that specialization i would still be missing that spell. That said, they could add spells at any time (like traps to the RC spec or future expansions to the game!) that may be at a higher lvl than you have...
I certainly don't feel, that under the right circumstances, taking a skill to 50 is a bad idea.
I certainly don't feel, that under the right circumstances, taking a skill to 50 is a bad idea.
Anonymous
by having a staff of runecarving equiped, all this does is lowers the mana cost that you cast your runecarving spells at, i dont know where you people get that it should up the damage
Scholar
44 posts
It does. It simply does. I do 15 more dmg on average at my lvl with the staff than without, it didnt even occur to me to look at the mana cost as well though.
Actually I tested it, and its official, i may be wrong with my above statement...the extra points these staves gives us seems to effect the resist/miss rate of the spells i cast for sure...and POSSIBLY the mana consumed, though i am not sold on that idea quite yet....
And now a couple days later after actually paying good attention to what i am doing, and asking for the opinon of some runemasters of higher lvl that i am, i can easily conclude I was wrong here. The staves reduce mana cost by some function of the bonuses they give. I suppose i didnt realalize the exact effect by now becasue i tended to buy new staves around when i lvled, which would make any of my comparisons just plain wrong..hehe o well
Actually I tested it, and its official, i may be wrong with my above statement...the extra points these staves gives us seems to effect the resist/miss rate of the spells i cast for sure...and POSSIBLY the mana consumed, though i am not sold on that idea quite yet....
And now a couple days later after actually paying good attention to what i am doing, and asking for the opinon of some runemasters of higher lvl that i am, i can easily conclude I was wrong here. The staves reduce mana cost by some function of the bonuses they give. I suppose i didnt realalize the exact effect by now becasue i tended to buy new staves around when i lvled, which would make any of my comparisons just plain wrong..hehe o well
#Anonymous,
Posted: Nov 13 2001 at 4:22 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I hate people that talk crap
Anonymous
I'm just curious here. We're all planning on hitting 50 one day and i've got my decisions all planned out. 47 runecarving 26 suppression, the rest into darkness (5 pts).
Any idea's when i should start thowing pts around?
I've already got 5 in supp to get my bladeturn and I'm thinking of just throwing everything into runecarving till it's 47 then switching over.
Anyone have any other insights?
Any idea's when i should start thowing pts around?
I've already got 5 in supp to get my bladeturn and I'm thinking of just throwing everything into runecarving till it's 47 then switching over.
Anyone have any other insights?
Scholar
44 posts
Personally i am taking runes of destruction right to 50. 2 reasons with many implications. We are still waiting for seige spells to be implemented and they are supposed to be in this line, wouldnt it suck if one was at lvl 50 and youre going to miss out because your points are in a different specialization?
Second reason is that every lvl of specialization effects the dmg you can cause, and the rate at which you are resisted it seems, i will need and want every little bit of punch i can get.
Lastly, you think DAOC will never get expansions? If it is like any other mmorpg on the market right now they will give expansions and possibly raise the lvl cap beyond 50... in that case as well being fully specialized will make me that much closer to the goodies at higher lvl's of specialization.
Nah, i am going all runecarving, though i know i will suffer a bit in the meantime because of my lack of bladturners, but damn we all have a role once we hit the real deal that is RvR, and if you cant do your role damn well, youre not as useful to your team as you could and should be, IMHO.
Second reason is that every lvl of specialization effects the dmg you can cause, and the rate at which you are resisted it seems, i will need and want every little bit of punch i can get.
Lastly, you think DAOC will never get expansions? If it is like any other mmorpg on the market right now they will give expansions and possibly raise the lvl cap beyond 50... in that case as well being fully specialized will make me that much closer to the goodies at higher lvl's of specialization.
Nah, i am going all runecarving, though i know i will suffer a bit in the meantime because of my lack of bladturners, but damn we all have a role once we hit the real deal that is RvR, and if you cant do your role damn well, youre not as useful to your team as you could and should be, IMHO.
Anonymous
Anyone else notice that these nukes are as good as an eldritches? Seems a bit unfair.
Anonymous
I wondered about that too. Not only that but the ruinmaster is more of a good overall mage (1 hit shield buff, speed buffs, etc), while the eldritch is pretty much pure damage. Runemaster would kick thier butts in a fight.
Hmm...mage class in the most magical realm in a world..and they arent the strongest magic user in the world? Seems wierd.
Hmm...mage class in the most magical realm in a world..and they arent the strongest magic user in the world? Seems wierd.
Anonymous
It is odd, isn't it...but then a runemaster doesn't even have the option to use stuns, mezzes, dots, damage shields, debuff quick and con or multiple DD AEs, like an eldritch can as well.
Damn, I guess that was a wasted whine by you, eh?
Damn, I guess that was a wasted whine by you, eh?
Anonymous
Also, we don't get any PBAOE's to bug exploit during fort raids :)
-Isleir
Lvl 44 Bors
-Isleir
Lvl 44 Bors
Anonymous
I am curious. I have a level 7 Runemaster, who has thus far put all points into RuneCarving.
My question relates to the Runes of Destruction line. Since I have level 7 Runecarving, I have upto the level 7 Runes of destruction as well. Let's say I had spec'd in Suppression, would I still recieve the runes of destruction line? If so, would it affect the dmg output at all?
Appreciate any help =)
My question relates to the Runes of Destruction line. Since I have level 7 Runecarving, I have upto the level 7 Runes of destruction as well. Let's say I had spec'd in Suppression, would I still recieve the runes of destruction line? If so, would it affect the dmg output at all?
Appreciate any help =)
Anonymous
No. You would only have the level 1 skill in Runes of destruction. You would continue to get the spells from the base runecarving line, but the runes of destruction spec spells would not be available to you.
Yes, speccing does affect damage output. One of the effects it has is in possibly lowering you damage output on spells where you are not specced.
Assume that you had not specced in runecarving at all, and someday you get to level 45 or so. Though sovereign runebolt has a list damage of 214, because you had none or very little spec in destruction at all, instead of a reliable 214 damage base, it will fluctuate to being as low as 43 damage base. (20% to 125% fluctuating, average is 62.5% of base damage or 134 damage)
A fully specced runemaster will be working from a consistent 366 damage base because they will be using sigil of undoing which is also DD, so no clear line is needed to land it either (125% regular for full spec).
So basically, non-specced destruction runemasters will never be able to reliably equal the raw firepower of a specced one. They may get a lucky shot now and then
Yes, speccing does affect damage output. One of the effects it has is in possibly lowering you damage output on spells where you are not specced.
Assume that you had not specced in runecarving at all, and someday you get to level 45 or so. Though sovereign runebolt has a list damage of 214, because you had none or very little spec in destruction at all, instead of a reliable 214 damage base, it will fluctuate to being as low as 43 damage base. (20% to 125% fluctuating, average is 62.5% of base damage or 134 damage)
A fully specced runemaster will be working from a consistent 366 damage base because they will be using sigil of undoing which is also DD, so no clear line is needed to land it either (125% regular for full spec).
So basically, non-specced destruction runemasters will never be able to reliably equal the raw firepower of a specced one. They may get a lucky shot now and then
Anonymous
Scratch sigil of undoing being DD. I checked right after I posted cause something didn't seem right...it's a bolt. However it is the strongest bolt in the game.
Anonymous
Perhaps you fellas that are doing more damage have a staff that gives you bonuses to your Runecarving skills? I currently have equipped the Weeping Willow Branch, which gives +10 to all casting skills. Without it, I do the listed damage to yellows. With it, I do 30-50% more.
Anonymous
This damage list is just a joke unless I'm missing something. I'm *consistantly* doing 147 to yellows with Lesser Sigil of Destruction (13 points of spec, meaning not maxed), which is listed at 83 damage.
Anonymous
Spell damage varies with mob level just like melee weapon damage does. The numbers here are based on mobs the same level as the caster and, for your example, are correct if your runemaster is specialized to or near level 17 in this spell line.
Anonymous
This is the base spell damage
Your spec level affects it more
IE if your spec lvl = 100% of your lvl you get bonus your dmg range is 75% to 150%
if its 66% of your lvl your range is 75% to 100%
if its lower.. its sick :P
Your spec level affects it more
IE if your spec lvl = 100% of your lvl you get bonus your dmg range is 75% to 150%
if its 66% of your lvl your range is 75% to 100%
if its lower.. its sick :P
Anonymous
The damge on the spells are not correct. I have a 17 rumeaster and my Sigil of Destruction deals 236 damage on greys about 200+ on greens 150-180 on blues and 130-150 on yellows.
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