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That's why it pisses me off whenever I switch to my Sarga character and run DF stuff, it's like:

"Oh looks like PLD and DRK for tanks..and the PLD has better ge-"

(PLD swaps to Sword Oath and sits there.)

"Oh, of course I'm MT."

In our tests in Midas 1-3 Savage PLD has a FAR better time, so the update changes were really good overall. Even in Seph EX...cuz even the ADDs hit like a damn truck lol.

(Oh and on a side note, Sephirot Ex is harder than Savage Midas 1 and 2 mechanically, so if you can get through that, you've basically beaten the DPS, Heal and Tank check for the first 2 Savage Midas floors, since we found out the Dummy for Savage Midas and Seph Ex are same HP.)



Edited, Mar 9th 2016 8:41am by Theonehio

That's lame. If I were you I would just turn off Grit and have a standoff with the other guy

Edited, Mar 9th 2016 11:51am by BrokenFox

I havent posted here in months... If not well over a year. Im a little shocked that after reading this entire thread, that stuff I complained about and would get flamed for and down voted into oblivion because of, is now the general consensus of the community. I quit back during ilvl 110 days. I tried heavensward and was unfortunatley surprised to see nothing has changed. And still hasn't.

I still think vertical gear progression is what makes the game stale. That and the boring gear. Yeah there is variation in their design, which is a good thing. But no item feels different from the next. When i was almost decked out in ilvl 110 gear back when it was relevant, i wasn't happy that I was decked out. I didn't really care to be honest. Thats one thin ffxi got right that i really wish they would take a look at. When I got my hagun for the first time it meant something. It made me feel powerful. I neger felt that way in xiv. That and making crafting relevant. Which in turn would make gil relevant. (I literally only ever bought food off the AH).

Anyway back into the shadows...

ZAM is just a very old site. Check out reddit/gamefaqs/the official forums for higher traffic.

Yea I quit FFXIV for the last 3 months. I went back to FFXI and it is amazing, not playing for two years we still had some best in slot gear., FFXIV that is less than a month.
What is great is sparks gear allows a fast way to catch up with out still being the best gear but good enough to get by for now. You can still up grade AF gear, relic gear etc.
There are so many routes to take to upgrade gear instead of just one, but wait with FFXIV there is always glamour.

We have now comeback to FFXIV mainly because the xbox is going down on FFXI and we do not want to buy another PC just to play FFXI if updates are slim.
Plus the game is not what it used to be either but still more fun than FFXIV. Anyway I forgot how many people in FFXIV game are just plain jack asses.
This weekend duty finder Expert dungeons I tried to run 4 times and only had one finish. If it aint a perfect run people just leave. A little short on dps bye. People play the game but obviously are not having fun doing it or they would not act like this. Just shows how bored people are that if a dungeon might last 5 min longer they would rather leave.

I have been back to FFXIV only two weeks and I already had to walk away from the game. Yesterday after the first battle in a dungeon the tank just stops after we beat it and wants to be kicked.

Edited, Mar 14th 2016 1:10pm by Nashred

Exactly, the soul has been completely missing from it since the revamp. Even 1.0 had some soul (though nowhere near XI's), and i've been saying just that since re-launch. I haven't ever been able to place my finger on what the precise missing piece or pieces are....I find myself subbing for shorter and shorter periods of time since 2.0, and while I normally give expacs a good three months' time for stuff to settle and WAI, HW only got 1.5 from me, playing infrequently. It's just become the same, which without any substance, isn't worth a lot of people's time or investment.

I am going to totally disagree with this.
I started playing FFXI in my mid 30's.
Now my late 40's and going back to FFXI it still feels like a better game as far as things to do and fun factor.
The whole sparks system is awsume and you can get sparks by doing so many different things not just the same thing over and over.
Tesee loved the new monster raising and the new mog garden, I could not get her to stop playing.
There has been more added at least more fun things to FFXI than FFXIV in the same time and on a skeleton crew.
It still not the game it used to be but it just has something FFXIV does not.
They can not even fix the housing issue in FFXIV. By the way we should be at the point in FFXIV where all these people loose their homes and I do not see a bunch of vacant lots.
Tesee agrees when she went back to ffxi I would come home and she would be playing, be ready for bed and she still was playing.
She said with FFXI there always seems to be the one last thing you want to do before logging off and with FFXIV you are just tired of playing when you log off.
FFXI=fun FFXIV=work

I still occasionally get that feeling when I pick up a game that is different. I had it when I started FFXIV but lost it so fast at end game. I even had it with coil till we hit turn 5 and it sucked the life out of me. Games are all trying to be the same with no risk. I picked up the new Rainbow six and it has lost that feeling to, it aint no different than COD. They took away the cover system and that is what made that series different. It defiantly is harder and harder to get that feeling but mainly because everything is a copy, it has nothing to do with peoples age.



For me FFXI was the greatest gaming experience of my life since playing Venture.
Doom was another highlight that changed gaming.

I wish SE actually would see these types of posts so they can change the game.

Edited, Mar 15th 2016 10:38am by Nashred

I agree XI has more to do (and more fun things to do), but I'm talking about hitting you right in the nostalgia. XI for me, just walking into Sarutabaruta triggers something I can't explain. Forget about systems, who does what better. Just the world, the music, what it does in terms of nostalgia. I've played some great games in the past 15 years, but non have stuck in my head nearly as much. Had I played them 20 years ago, I think they might have. Xenoblade Chronicles, Ni No Kuni, etc. If you started playing XI in your 30s, and every time you log on and hear that music you get that that awesome feeling, then that's great. No game has personally done that for me in the last 10-15 years though, even though there's some great ones in there.

Because when you think of Vanilla XI up until about the rise of Abyssea...there were some pretty ridiculous systems in place. Yet we all still clamor about how great the game was. XI is no longer what XI was.


Edited, Mar 15th 2016 12:38pm by Montsegurnephcreep

It's a bit more than "because people who prefer XI want it to."

This game is barely even past 2005 era design. Games that come and go in the span of 3 months offered more than XIV currently does and neither of them have EVER used the excuse "Well the servers would crash and..well sorry we don't have anyone on the team who can create this content."

The fact people ACCEPT those excuses and still say this game is "perfect" or "one of the best MMOs ever" goes far beyond people who enjoyed XI more. People realistically are "settled" or "content" with how XIV HW is and don't want it to change, even though MMOs tend to actually dramatically change (those that survive that is.) XI changed quite a bit with every expansion while maintaining the basic status quo. ToAU had the most dramatic system changes by offering "instanced" content, which in terms of when XI was out and in 2006? Was indeed a system improvement. What honestly...did HW do for the game? They still force you into 3 year old content that per vertical progression deisgn, we should not be touching.

Edited, Mar 15th 2016 12:11pm by Theonehio

That's cool - Doesn't change the fact that it's being accepted there's foundation problems that most gamers normally wouldn't stand for and history has shown they wouldn't, but that is the power "Final Fantasy" has..unless of course, it's Final Fantasy XIII, Mystic Quest or XI. All that says is you enjoy the game and will enjoy the game even if they further scale back updates and never evolve systems.

It doesn't.

I think Hio just has a very hard time understanding that some people find this game to be relaxing and fun.