I'm gonna use these pretty things all the way till 73 when i can get my Destroyers. Spartans... not worth it IMO ^^. Cross-Counters... too damn much money lol.
im tryin to figure out which i should get for my mnk, im lvl 58 btw, these r 1.7mil on seraph, and the spartans r 3mil, idk which to get but if i could get a high lvl mnks opnion id apperciate it ^^b thx
thx for the info, and they dropped that low huh? nice, im gonna get these for sure...i checked em like a week ago and thats when they were like 1.6-1.7mil, man they went down fast.
Spartans... u do notice slightly higher dmg per hit, but with TMH+2 u hit much much quicker, with slightly lower dmg, great for EXP parties where speed counts to bring in the chains , as for the Cross counters, these are slightly slower than TMH+2 , but are still much faster IMO than spartans, and they put out the same amount of dmg, but prices are high, so the best bang for your gil would be the TMH+2 , with a woodsman ring... snipers ring.... TMH+2 -10 def , SniperX2 -20 = -30 def total, ouch =X
CC=ballista OWNAGE weapons, and with haste added, great EXP pt weapons, without. hmm still pretty good but... TMH+2=EXP pt weapon of choice Spartans=for that SATA to start a fight , lol, then switch out to TMH+2 :O
as a 60 taru mnk i use these over the spartans but only because im taru and the +10 attack might be better for me. but the real question is do you want do you want to do? hit harder per hit and hit more for weapon skills (spartan) or be more of a DoT hitting a little faster its up to you.....
I picked up a pair of these 2night (even though im only lvl 18 lol) . How long should these be used for. Saw the post about the spartins or whatever so at least 2 lvl 58 but if I dont want the spartians whats the next H2H weapon 2 get?
forever, u never get rid of these babys, there are a bunch of H2h weopons to choose from that u will keep forever, starting at lvl 50 they appear, CC is one of them, T.M hooks is one. in m opinion TM hooks+2 are THE BEST BY FAR to take to the end..unless u get relic ofcourse
i have these and the spartan cestis and i dont know which to use. my friend who is a lvl 75 monk says he doesn't like the spartans because of their rediculus delay, and he says these are better in his opinion. what is everyone elses opinion? spartans at 58, or stick with these?
The recipe provided is correct, no smithing is required.
On the Sylph server, the ingredients go for about 100k, but the item sells for 700k, thus I attempted to get these crafted. I contracted a level 100+3 boneworker who told me that her success rate was 1/5, hence the price.
So far I'm 0/1, but no demon horns are left on the AH so i'll have to wait. These are indeed great weapons though, my friend (a mnk75) said that he was able to easily take them straight through to the end and at 1.6 million, the Spartan Cesti is an outrageous choice despite the damage.
wow your servers really suck. these have sold consistantly for 300K on Titan. there was one pair that went for 1.1 mil about a month ago, but the last sale was only 500K (and damn me for only being willing to spend 400K on them ><) time to hit up my bonecrafting friends..keep your fingers crossed lol.
Just wanted to add on this that I had a friend craft these last night...After much frustration "camping" the AH for these and finding that the prices went from 800k to 1mil to 1.1mil then the last ones available I bid up to 1.3mil and no sale, I talked to him over ls chat and he said he would try them out (he is bone 100+3) and when I woke up this morning I found a signed pair on my delivery box from him...It only took him one try too, so technically he is 1/1 on these, and I am quite happy now to have them.
If anyone is interested in these, I have a pair fo sale on phoenix right now. 1,600,000 I really like them, yet I have to spend gil on other things right now, so if anyone is interested just send me a tell in game or on here. My in game name is Sircharles, and prices are negotiable :) thanks
This info was taken from the Sept. 14 2004 update info on this link. http://www.playonline.com/updateus/040914gs7tr3.html
The only other widely used HtH weapons listed were the Tourney Patas.
If you are debating the usefulness of certain pieces of +ATT equipment versus +STR items, this might help you make the right decision for your setup. Consider also that our most used weaponskills have their damage modified by STR, and a strong argument can be made for Enkylado's Bracelets over Ochiudo's Kote when these are your weapons.
Hmm i know someone that has 100+3 and would get imagry also, think its worth it? And about the smithing are you sure? I really dont have the gil to get a fail and have to try again or wait for a pair of +1 to go up ; ;. Man this sucks <.>
are you 100% sure a 50-60 smithing is also required to make this synth? i know 3 100bonecrafters on my server but the one in my LS doesnt have smithing for sub ><
This is a great weapon, if you can get a hold of one, that is. The +1 DMG and -10 delay from the TM hooks+1 is a good improvement. I've heard people compare these to Spartan Cesti; i'm not sure if they're quite as good but considering these are available at level 52, they'll hold you over nicely. (unless your rich and have Cross-counters :P)
On Unicorn these sell roughly once every 2 weeks, hopefully I can the next ones.
I looked at the price history to see if anyone has sold any. I contacted the seller and asked themt o make one for me and he could name the price (at the time, this was the only weapon I wanted).
I highly doubt these can be fished up. As with all upgraded conquest items, it requires a certain level of skill in the appropriate craft. As I understand it, you need about 95 in blacksmithing to craft Tactician Magician's Hooks +1 and +2.
This is most defiantley NOT an item that can be fished up. It's an upgraded Conquest Item with the +2 being the H.Q. . I believe it's a bone synth, don't quote me on that as I've yet to find the actual recipe.. I've heard rumor that the recipe can be found on MysteryTour... but once again, not sure.