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#52 Dec 19 2013 at 7:44 PM Rating: Default
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I've noticed that people on the right accuse the left on latching on everything else under the sun to avoid talking about ACA, even though the White House has been talking about it.
#53 Dec 19 2013 at 7:50 PM Rating: Good
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They've probably been causing problems on the reservation then.


Moose have reservations? Aside from the ones they have about polar bears, of course.
They do, it's called Canada.
#54 Dec 19 2013 at 7:57 PM Rating: Decent
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"Gay rights issue raised" let's see oh here we are "Gay people's fault" Wait that doesn't seem right. Oh wait, here's an asterisk I missed previously "*'Obama's fault' may be substituted for any rationale at any time".


Um... How about "gay rights issue raised completely out of the blue, and lumped into a list of reasons why the president bowed out of a high level meeting with Putin". Seriously. Snowden thing explodes. Obama gives a statement and more or less says "we're not going to G8 unless Russia hands us Snowden". Russia calls Obama's bluff. Then suddenly it's "we're not going to G8 because Russia is mean to gays".

It was an absolutely transparent change of subject when it was made. What's bizarre is how some people have continue to carry this torch (haha!) despite it being completely silly and ridiculous. I mean, I get that some might think there's some wedge issue value in pushing it into the public discourse, but that kinda backfires when you have long lists of gay athletes saying "this is really stupid".

So how about we just acknowledge that folks in the US really don't actually care that much or have much influence on how Russia treats its homosexuals, and also that in the grand scheme of "things that other nations do that we don't like", it's so amazingly far down our list as to be more or less pointless to even bring up. We managed to attend the Olympics in China despite that country having a bad record on more or less every single thing we care about (human rights, environment, Tibet, gays, patent infringement, etc, etc, etc...). So really? It's a non-issue.
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#55 Dec 19 2013 at 8:25 PM Rating: Excellent
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Given that we're attending these Olympics as well, I fail to see where all your hand-wringing is coming from.
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#56 Dec 19 2013 at 8:41 PM Rating: Decent
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Given that we're attending these Olympics as well, I fail to see where all your hand-wringing is coming from.


I'm not the one engaged in hand wringing. All those people saying we should be boycotting the Olympics are. And I agree that they're being pretty silly.
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#57 Dec 19 2013 at 8:57 PM Rating: Good
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Um... How about "gay rights issue raised completely out of the blue, and lumped into a list of reasons why the president bowed out of a high level meeting with Putin". Seriously. Snowden thing explodes. Obama gives a statement and more or less says "we're not going to G8 unless Russia hands us Snowden". Russia calls Obama's bluff. Then suddenly it's "we're not going to G8 because Russia is mean to gays".

The G8 Obama attended and met with Putin at that ended before Snowden ever set foot in Moscow? Are you on drugs? Is that the problem? Do you mean, perhaps the G20? I haven't checked the John Birch Society forums to see where your nutjob conspiracy theory comes from yet, could you maybe cut and paste for me and get the names of organizations correct?

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