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lol! the charm aint going like 50 instru, lvl50 mobs! omg how dare even say that?! I have 50 + 15 and I can keep lvl54 mobs and lvl56 mobs resists quite alot, with your form I could keep lvl65 mobs, witch I cant.

all of the above links i click on take me to what looks like cleric or friar spells...when will this be fixed

thanks

I thought I'd also toss out a few strategy tips as a level 26 minstrel. I won't comment on RvR as I've only encountered what i've read on websites and speculation, so I'll stick to PvE.

For starters, I'd like to dispel the myth that sorcerers and minstrels can only charm humanoids. It's complete bunk. The first level song you can only charm humanoids, but you get to charm a new type of mob for each new charm you get. What I've been able to determine is that your second song you can charm animals (bears, boars, horses, etc). The third level song allows you to charm insects (ants, spiders, etc). I'm not sure what the fourth level song gets you but I believe you can charm moor boogeys (whatever class of beast they are). I believe the final level charm allows you to charm magical beasts such as giants. I've heard more then one report of minstrels soloing Ravenclan Giants by charming one other, but I don't know from personal experience.

I find that charming is a great way to solo. The most recent length of solo xp'ing was in keltoi. One of the best tactics I found was to charm a keltoi visionary; they not only hit decently hard but if you drop down to less then half life then they'll actually stop combat and heal you. You'll find your confusion song works expertly with this tactic. Let the charmed mob engage first, then come in with your shouts and styles, then hit confusion. Your mob will usually be the one that's beat up the most, and you continue doing this till your charmed guy dies ,then just charm another.

On a side note when you have a mob charmed try to avoid using another pulsing song (mez, running, heal song, or power song) as you'll have to re-charm the mob every time you start the other pulsing song, which would be ok except you pound on the drum or strum the lute each time too .. which gets annoying to the people around you and lower the condition of your instrument.

The only real downside to charming mobs that i've found is that other people who haven't played a minstrel or sorcerer tend to be a little flakey when it comes to charmed pets. I've largely stopped even trying to get a mob to fight with a group as everyone seems to want to kill it. I dunno what it is but most people I've encountered hate charmed pets (Which is probably why there are so few sorcerers and even fewer cabalists).

For mintrels, how long so they have to wait to do there damage songs again?

Sounds like alot of you haven't played a minstrel at all. Have you any idea how important stealth is in RvR? Combine that with a speed song and two dd spells, a stun, fairly good melee abilities, and other fun stuff... I can understand why some would find the minstrel weak at first, it isn't a very good PvE class, but don't discourage others with alot of talk about something you know nothing about.

The confusion chant affects players, works great on magi types as it randomizes their targets and prevents casting.

Yep, that is the way it works for anyone who is new. It automatically upgrades. You do not change the icons on the hotbar out for an upgrade to a song/spell.

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Just a little info for newbs, I just figure dout that unlike EQ, which is the only other MMORPG I played, you dont get a new song every lvl, eventually the stronger verison of the song will just be in the place of the old song. For instance at Instrument lvl 2 we get Dischordant Note, then at lvl 7 we get Dischordant Tone. What happens at lvl 7 is Dischordant Note basically dissapears and is replaced by Dischordant Tone. This happens with all spells and songs from what I've seen so far, but bear in mind I've only been playing a couple weeks ;)