Classes: Hunter, Infiltrator, Minstrel, Nightshade, Ranger, Rogue (Albion), Rogue (Midgard), Scout, Shadowblade, The Way of Stealth
A catch all for the "rogue" base skills, training this affects not only how hidden one can become, but additional abilities can be granted as well.
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Do rangers get any stealth abilities?
# Nov 27 2001 at 7:07 AM Rating: Default
I have a lvl 22 ranger and wondering, why i dont get any other stealth skills beside of Hide.
i have Stealth at level 14 now, but i did not get distraction or Sense danger.
Are there any caps for the ranger?

lvl 22 Ranger
RE: Do rangers get any stealth abilities?
# Nov 28 2001 at 1:08 PM Rating: Default
Level 15 for distract
RE: Do rangers get any stealth abilities?
# Nov 29 2001 at 8:25 AM Rating: Default
Hi, me again!

I have Level 16 now in stealth, still no detect hidden or distract in my ability list.
Nothing in there except of stealth!
Does it depend on race also?

thanks and regards,
Lvl 24 Ranger, Palomides
# Nov 23 2001 at 2:33 PM Rating: Default
whoever posted saying you cant have a specialty buffed higher than your cap is, is wrong...
also, the reason that your buffed specialty isnt showing, is most likely because the item is broken...
bring it to a smith
RE: ...
# Dec 18 2001 at 8:11 PM Rating: Default
I am not the person you responded to but I'm very curious. I believe you, really, but I'm looking for more information. Is there a level limit before bonuses take effect or something? See, here's the deal.. I have a level 10 cabalist, 9 scout, 6 arsman, 5 cleric, 10 cabalist on another server -- K -- I've never one seen focuses bonuses do ANYTHING. On Palomides I just bought my (new) cabalist an oaken cabalist staff of body. It's, I think, 9 body, 5 matter 5 spirit. None of my skills are higher. It doesn't show at least. I rigth click the weapon (for right-click effect, testing) which of course does nothing but inspect the weapon. The thing cons yellow. Is that too high?! The staff my trainer gave me when I turned cabalist at level 5 also did nothing.

My spells/abilities are based off my TRAINED level as opposed to my "enhanced" level. In fact up until level 9 I only had a 2 in Body magic and I was still using major vitality drain and hitting green mobs for 40 damage???

So I just gotta, gotta, gotta know... WHEN, HOW, WHY?! I just don't see the point?! I also noticed my cabalist will don a 12ac robe, and then get a whopping 7ac from it?! What gives man?!

Considering I fell through the pavement in Camelot the other day, on my way to the trainer of course, only to reload at my last bind point... yes, that was real cute, was almost there too... I tend to believe there's a LOOOOOT of bugs in this game. Are you *SURE* these bonuses do something?
RE: ...
# Jan 05 2002 at 11:08 AM Rating: Default
Hope this helps, learned it recently myself.
Focus items dont add to your skill they merely make associated spells of the level indicated less costly in power. For example with appropriate focus item cost is reduced to 95% or lower I believe.
RE: ...
# Dec 24 2001 at 10:35 AM Rating: Default
"It's, I think, 9 body, 5 matter 5 spirit. None of my skills are higher"

I don't think they show up because they aren't meant to show up, they are active though..Mythic I am pretty sure had stated this or someone else did but its there, aslong as you can use the item ie. its meant for you.

"I also noticed my cabalist will don a 12ac robe, and then get a whopping 7ac from it?! What gives man?!"

Well I just have one question did you have a 5AC Robe?(well actually its AF not AC) on before you put your 12AF robe on? just wondering because it wouldn't add 12AF total if you looked at your AF with your other robe on.(hope thats not to confusing).

# Nov 20 2001 at 6:20 AM Rating: Default
What about all the other skills mentioned about stealth like safe fall and climb? Are they going to be implemented in a patch later? I'd like to know what lvl they can be obtained so i can plan ahead, i dont want to create a character that doesn't have those skills just because i didnt know they were going to be lvl 40 skills and i only put 38 points in! =) Other than that are there any serious advantages from specing in stealth to about 38 points instead of max for a hunter? Should i spec less? Any help would be appreciated.

Iroquois Warrior
Head of The Conclave Guild in Midgard Galahad
We could use a few good warriors ;)
Iroquois Warrior
# Nov 20 2001 at 6:15 AM Rating: Default
Getting Past the Frontier
# Nov 19 2001 at 11:17 AM Rating: Default
To any that knows:

Many saying that untill Mythic fixes it, you can go in stealth mode and go into the inner part of the realm to kill the low level newbies (past the frontier part of the realm).

Any1 know how to do it? My level 9 friend was killed by what was labled: "Saracen Invader" who was in stealth mode. This has to be someone who knew how to get past the frontier of the realm.

thanks for your help,
RE: Getting Past the Frontier
# Nov 19 2001 at 11:44 PM Rating: Decent
Its not done using stealth, its done exploiting geometry problems in the game world.
Buffed Stealth Quesion
# Nov 12 2001 at 5:00 PM Rating: Default
OK here's a question for you:

Is there a benefit for having a stealth that is item buffed over your level? Say i'm level 28 with 30 stealth itembuffed. Will those 2 extra points in stealth do much? heck they might I just don't see the info anywhere, also heard conflicting reports.

Also, when you right click the Stealth Icon(looks like crosshairs) it shows your stealth ability info...meaning it shows your level of stealth. I've noticed that it also shows your BASE stealth level, and not your Itembuffed stealth. Now does your stealth ability work at the level of stealth it shows, or the level of the skill you look at in the abilities menu(which should appear green if you have +stealth items, aka itembuffed)

I'm really curious about this because If your stealth skill only functions at your level, why put max points into it if you have +stealth items?

Moida 28 Nightshade Palomides
RE: Buffed Stealth Quesion
# Dec 07 2001 at 12:43 PM Rating: Default
In regards to your question, no, if you are lvl 28 and have skill lvl 28 buffed=30 it will not help at all. The only time when it will help is if you have skill 26 in that area and the buff goes to 28. That way, you have +2 stealth saving you 53 spec points. However, in regards to style you will not be able to use a new style/skill from buff. Hope this answers your question.

Khal lvl 32 Warden Tristan
RE: Buffed Stealth Quesion
# Nov 15 2001 at 8:48 AM Rating: Default
To answer the 2 eskstra points in stealth...
They will not help you if you already have caped your skill, so to use a item that benefits a skill they will only benefit if you havnt caped em. And skill items will not give you special abilitys if you get the skill level with an item.
Its something Mythic have said themselves, look at vault.

Hope it helps.
# Nov 11 2001 at 11:47 AM Rating: Default
k, whoever posted this chart is wrong. When I was level 5 I was hidden and resting when It said that ______ sees you (or something like that) Anyhow, this has to be my second most used skill (first of course being recurve bow) It is great, I can get into anywhere, and since most monsters aren't stealthy then they can't see me anyway.
stop asjubg
# Nov 10 2001 at 1:33 PM Rating: Default
stop asking about more skills.. you dont get any more.. if you dont want to be hidden then dont use the skill, but DONT plan on getting a good critical strike unless your stealth is at lest 3/4->max of your level!!! you will probably just get spotted and slaughtered if you dont have a VERY high stealh/level ratio

all u get is the ability to stay hidden, there are only about 4 skills total.. climbing and slopes have not yet been implemented by Mythic but WHEN they do, you will be able to read about it!!
RE: stop asjubg
# Jan 06 2002 at 4:15 PM Rating: Default
#Anonymous, Posted: Nov 12 2001 at 3:33 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Oh I see you are a fully stealth specced level 50 who knows everything. Therefore I will refrain from mentioning that you aren't 50 and don't know everything. And btw I will also refrain from mentioning that a skill a lot of people have talked about in this forum is not mentioned in the above list, so why oh why couldn't that have happened to others? Until you fully spec stealth and hit fifty do us all a favor and just shut up.
# Jan 06 2002 at 4:20 PM Rating: Default
I haven't ben on this board yet but i think i know why u guys are confused! U don't get a icon or anything when u get detect or being able to see other players u just do! u get a message on ur chatbox that says something like "Mudman spotted you!" and for seeing other players u just will (hopefully) if ur on level 16!!

-If you Run ull only die tired!
Distraction lvl?
# Nov 10 2001 at 12:47 AM Rating: Default
What lvl does stelath gotta be at to get distraction?
RE: Distraction lvl?
# Nov 11 2001 at 12:27 PM Rating: Default
Skill 5 for Distraction
# Nov 05 2001 at 8:43 PM Rating: Default
I see an advantage in this for a ranger. Use it to stop a mob if that is what it does. It will stop it until you can keep it still to fire off a crit shot with your bow. *shrugs*
# Oct 31 2001 at 12:31 AM Rating: Default
Hmm, where are you guys getting the skill Distraction? When I look at the list of styles above it only mentions Hide, Sense Danger, and Detect Hidden. Why can't I see the others?

Confused Ranger
RE: Distraction?
# Nov 04 2001 at 11:24 PM Rating: Default
I got distraction. Don't really use it, doesn't really seem to help any. If you havn't figured it out you use F5 to and the arrows to choose your ground target and then you "distract" or throw a small stone. Has yet to work for me.
RE: Distraction?
# Nov 12 2001 at 9:53 AM Rating: Default
is there a buton that i have to hit that says destract are what?
RE: Distraction?
# Nov 05 2001 at 3:01 AM Rating: Default
Doesnt seem to help? My friend you are missing out... What happans when a monsters back is to a wall and you want to back stab? you use this skill to make him turn, ig something is guarding a place you must sneak by what do you do? you turn him the opposite way with this skill. I live by this skill, its is an awesome skill once you master it.

Zaryt Infiltrator.
# Oct 30 2001 at 2:54 PM Rating: Default
Man nightshades have so many skills to choose from. I haven't gotten the game yet (comes tomorrow or thursday) but I know that you should.. bye lvl 10ish, pick 1 skill to specialize in. Nightshades have 6 skills to choose that 1 from, and you shouldn't neglect 2 of those.. critical and stealth. hmmm
Distraction skill
# Oct 30 2001 at 9:14 AM Rating: Default
Can albion scouts have the distraction skill ?
Because i can press F5 to select a target on the ground, but i haven't the skill.
Any idea or help will be greatly appreciated ?
# Oct 29 2001 at 11:08 PM Rating: Default
Hmm, I wonder...say theres a big group of creatures, and you get them all to turn their backs from one creature thats nearby, then attack the one...will they all run after you?
if not, then theres the point to distraction(throw some rocks to distract enemies nearby, then pick off the target with an arrow... (just hope he dont yell for help))
# Oct 28 2001 at 9:30 PM Rating: Default
hmm so distract at level 5 or 6...this list obviously isnt complete...does anyone know any other special skills u get from stealth?
the book says that infiltrators get 'traps' ..hehe
and i heard or read something about disguises...are there any such skills?
# Oct 25 2001 at 12:58 PM Rating: Default
The distraction skill is pretty good.

hold down the ground target key keep it held down and move the move to posistion the marker. then hit the distract skill.

what it does is it stop a moving critter and faces them in a direction. very usefull for when your stealthed and you need to stop the critter.
Why to raise stealth.
# Oct 25 2001 at 8:12 AM Rating: Decent
For those who don't know yet... several things with hide are based off of your stealth skill. The more skill you have, the closer you can be to other creatures and still hide. If you neglect your stealth skill, you may not even be able to hide when something is in the next room over (I've had this happen). The skill also determines the chance that creatures have to uncover you, and the delay that you have to wait after combat to hide again. All of these are also based off of the level of the creature relative to you.
# Oct 23 2001 at 2:21 AM Rating: Decent
As listed here. It only goes to lvl 16 can you get this as high as 50? and if so what are the extra ablilitys you get from it?
# Oct 22 2001 at 7:10 PM Rating: Default
I was able to get Distraction to work by holding down F5 for a bit until the quardinates came up and then clicking on the hotkey. However I don't see what the point is. You throw the rock and it leaves a small stone on the ground, but the monsters seem to ignore it. Is this supposed to distract other players by leaving what looks like a bag of loot on the ground?
RE: Distraction?
# Oct 25 2001 at 2:58 AM Rating: Default
I've been able to get distraction to work only when the mobs are still, and even then you have to position the marker close to them (pretty much right next to them). If you do it right, the creature will turn to the direction that you therw the rock (usually behind so you can follow up with a backstab).
# Oct 20 2001 at 10:51 PM Rating: Decent
I love stealth I've gotten to where i can run right by some purples in dungeon an not be seen. this makes it easy for me to pull in dangerous places and throughly scout ahead.
Do scouts get track
# Oct 18 2001 at 12:30 PM Rating: Default
Anyone tell me if track as been put in the game? if what lvl do scouts get it?
Distraction explained!
# Oct 15 2001 at 2:37 PM Rating: Decent
Hi for all those wondering how to use the distraction skill, here is how.

f5 by default is the select ground target button.

What you do is this, hold down f5, a yellow marker will appear, then use the arrow keys to move this marker to a position distant from you, the positition you want your distraction to occur.

Then let go of f5 and click on your distraction skill. Your character should make a motion and throw some rocks to the location creating a noise(distraction).

Well I hope this has been helpfull.

-Jamen RelicBringer
level 11 Nightshade
RE: Distraction explained!
# Nov 06 2001 at 10:50 PM Rating: Default
Actually you wont be able to see the ground target while in first person view because it defaults right below you, so you will have to move it foreward to see it, and from there you can move it around

Bamzal FuryMight ({[16 Shadowblade]})
-Bors Server
RE: Distraction explained!
# Nov 06 2001 at 10:49 PM Rating: Default
Actually you wont be able to see the ground target while in first person view because it defaults right below you, so you will have to move it foreward to see it, and from there you can move it around

Bamzal FuryMight
-Bors Server
# Oct 15 2001 at 1:17 PM Rating: Decent
Anyone actually figured out how to use distraction yet? Every time I try it says "You must select a location first." How do we do that? In keyboard setup there is a key for select ground target (F5 by default) but that doesn't seem to do anything. Am I missing something?
# Oct 15 2001 at 10:42 AM Rating: Default
Does it require that the Backstab use a piercer weapon, or can you backstab with a slash style weapon? Also, found that if there is a battle already in progress near you, you cannot go into Stealth mode...Keep this in mind because like stated before you can only Backstab one time.

Info on the piercer vs slasher would be much appreciated.
RE: Backstab
# Nov 03 2001 at 12:28 AM Rating: Default
I'm not too sure about the above reply...

Most thieves depend on their opening backstab (combo) to do a huge chunk of damage. Since it's not weapon-specific and doesn't execute any faster if you have a faster weapon, I would highly recommend using a big, nasty two-hand weapon (******* sword is my personal choice) to do the combo, then switch to your weapon(s) of choice for the rest of the fight. This method also gives you the chance to use 3 types of venom (one on the 2-hand weapon) instead of just two if you usually dual-wield.

RE: Backstab
# Oct 17 2001 at 11:45 AM Rating: Default
Backstab can be used with any "style" weapon you are proficient in as far as I have seen, althought I have had better results with peircing weapons.
Stealth / Backstab
# Oct 15 2001 at 3:21 AM Rating: Default
Pump up your stealth and you can use the backstab skill with it. It ROCKS! You have to go stealth, walk up behind, and stab... go figure. Kind of a pain if your teammates are already enaging it (since you walk slower), but you can still backstab (once) if you sneak into the melee.
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