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Christmas day, someone on our Pixelmon server decided they wanted to start an argument about Christmas and its religious meaning and so forth in public chat. He was asked by one of our admins to stop (it is against the rules to discuss religion and/or politics on our servers) and decided to continue despite being warned. He gets kicked, comes back, rages at said admin, which lands him a ban hammer to the face.

The first I hear about all this is from his hilarious rant on our forums...

http://pokeheavenmc.enjin.com/forum/m/14449178/viewthread/10092755-complaint-about-ace-administrator



Earlier today, I end up talking to his girlfriend on Skype about the issue. I get this:





Full conversation:

Spoiler[12/28/2013 1:33:11 PM] Alexandra Groulx: I NEED TO TALK TO YOU!
[12/28/2013 3:07:21 PM] *** Kuwoobie has shared contact details with Alexandra Groulx. ***
[12/28/2013 3:07:27 PM] Kuwoobie: hi
[1:29:20 PM] Alexandra Groulx: hey, youre the same kuwoobie from pokeheaven, correct? if so, ace just banned you $57
[1:29:42 PM] Kuwoobie: Yes I am the only Kuwoobie
[1:30:50 PM] Kuwoobie: I was under the impression that you wanted to talk about what happened?
[1:31:09 PM] Alexandra Groulx: okay well thank god, I CAN have you arreted but you are my friend and I won't. But ace banned me AND my boyfriend just as i was about to donate $10 and he was gonna donate $47
[1:31:22 PM] Kuwoobie: ...
[1:31:24 PM] Alexandra Groulx: and yes
[1:31:36 PM] Kuwoobie: You know, I really like you. I consider you a friend as well
[1:31:53 PM] Kuwoobie: and if you weren't JT's girlfriend, we would not be having this discussion
[1:32:06 PM] Kuwoobie: I really don't appreciate the two of you threatening me and such for one thing though
[1:32:37 PM] Alexandra Groulx: Im trying not to threaten you. I'm trying to show you the trouble Ace could have put you in
[1:32:38 PM] Kuwoobie: Now then
[1:32:49 PM] Kuwoobie: When all this happened, I was at my family's house celebrating Christmas
[1:33:01 PM] Kuwoobie: When I get home, the first I hear about it is on this thread:
[1:33:03 PM] Kuwoobie: http://pokeheavenmc.enjin.com/forum/m/14449178/viewthread/10092755-complaint-about-ace-administrator
[1:33:27 PM] Alexandra Groulx: this computer had been bblocked from that site
[1:33:34 PM] Alexandra Groulx: somehow
[1:33:43 PM] Kuwoobie: "I was on yesterday evening having a little joking fun with some of the other members. Ace or someone close to that name who is an admin got offended by the fact that I said Christmas is a Christian holiday. That statement is completely and historically accurate and there is no debating facts. Out of his immaturity and childish ways he decided to mute me and use profanity with me. Then he kicked me from the server after all of my hard work. If this issue is not resolved and he is not foced to apologize and never do that again then I will have your server shut down. Im going to see a lawyer tomorrow to see what I can do. Talked to him over the phone and he said this treatment is unjust in a public gaming environment. If I do not receive some form of compensation SOON I will carry out my plans."
[1:34:05 PM] Kuwoobie: Read that and think about it for one moment, and tell me what you might think if this was directed at you
[1:34:22 PM] Kuwoobie: Keep in mind that this is the first I am hearing about this incident
[1:35:00 PM] Alexandra Groulx: Who wrote that?
[1:35:05 PM] Kuwoobie: Your boyfriend
[1:35:37 PM] Alexandra Groulx: Oh.. he just told me he did...
[1:35:42 PM] Kuwoobie: Right now, I am in no position whatsoever to take his side. Right now it is very hard for to believe Ace was in any way wrong for her actions after seeing this on my forum
[1:35:43 PM] Alexandra Groulx: I'm sorry about that (worry)
[1:35:50 PM] Kuwoobie: I need to hear your side of the story
[1:38:09 PM] Alexandra Groulx: I just find it unjust because being on the server is one thing me and my boyfriend enjoy doing, as we are a long distance relationship. But then Ace kickedd him just because JT made a minor correction, and when I stood up and said it wasn't fair, he banned me.
[1:38:24 PM] Alexandra Groulx: Jake wants to tell you what happened
[1:38:31 PM] Kuwoobie: He has said enough
[1:38:34 PM] Kuwoobie: on the forum
[1:39:02 PM] Kuwoobie: I want to hear from you because I think you are good person despite what has happened. I understand you were standing up for your boyfriend
[1:39:09 PM] Kuwoobie: anyone would
[1:39:14 PM] Alexandra Groulx: Actually, I beg to differ. Im not asking for myself to have access to the server. If you want to then thats great, but its not going to make me feel bad about myself
[1:39:23 PM] Alexandra Groulx: Its jake.
[1:39:31 PM] Alexandra Groulx: Im going to tell you exactly what ace did wrong.
[1:39:37 PM] Kuwoobie: I'm willing to unban you if you want to play again. But we need to talk about this for a bit
[1:39:43 PM] Alexandra Groulx: Okay
[1:39:47 PM] Alexandra Groulx: So heres what happend...
[1:41:53 PM] Alexandra Groulx: I was online talking to some people about Christmas and how people have been straying away from the true meaning of the holiday. It was a completely harmless conversation and almost everyone was taking my side on the topic. Ace comes online and starts arguing with my points. At first, I was just ignoring him and talking to the people who appreciated my point of view. Then after I said Christmas is a christian holiday and there would be no Christmas without Christ he kicks me and uses profanity with me for no apparent reason.
[1:41:56 PM] Alexandra Groulx: NOt finished...
[1:42:25 PM] Alexandra Groulx: He writes on the screen... You think im joking you fuc*ing ******?
[1:42:43 PM] Alexandra Groulx: Then I log back on and say.. "Who did that"?
[1:44:48 PM] Alexandra Groulx: He kicks me again and says "Ace". Then I log back on and try to tell him what he was doing is wrong and he just automatically bans me. I am sorry for getting upset on the forums, however he was very rash and immature in his decision to ban me. I dont particulary like t his game, but I play it as to make my girlfriend happy. It doensnt hurt my feelings personally, but Ace was most definately in the wrong by blocking me, alexandra, and one other form the forums when he realized his guilt.
[1:45:50 PM] Kuwoobie: You were blocked on the forum because what you wrote on it was not acceptable...
[1:45:55 PM] Alexandra Groulx: I have spoken to numerous admins before and have never had a problem, in fact, wickedest chick and steady do an excellent job.
[1:46:34 PM] Alexandra Groulx: Yes I know that and as I said It doesnt bother me, however, it was unfair for him to block Alexandra and nate.
[1:46:42 PM] Kuwoobie: Who is nate?
[1:46:48 PM] Kuwoobie: That is the first I've heard of a third person involved
[1:47:16 PM] Alexandra Groulx: It was unnacceptable for ace to use profanity with me on the kick screen. In fact, there is legal action that "could" be taken against someone like that.
[1:47:36 PM] Kuwoobie: Ok. Wait a minute
[1:47:47 PM] Kuwoobie: I agree that Ace's actions were unprofessional
[1:48:06 PM] Kuwoobie: many of our admins are jaded and will quickly assume any person who lashes out against them is a bad player and should be banned
[1:48:11 PM] Kuwoobie: I am often guilty of this as well
[1:48:21 PM] Kuwoobie: We deal with all kinds of beligerant people all day every day
[1:48:34 PM] Kuwoobie: But it is no excuse
[1:48:46 PM] Kuwoobie: Based on what I have heard from both sides
[1:49:24 PM] Alexandra Groulx: I completely understand that. I am 18 years old and am going to law school soon. I assure you, I only become beligerant when provolked.
[1:49:31 PM] Kuwoobie: The problem started when JT_Braden apparently began discussing Christmas in a relgious/politcal way
[1:50:19 PM] Kuwoobie: As stated in both the guide book and the website, it is agains the rules to discuss religion and politics on our servers
[1:50:40 PM] Kuwoobie: The reason for this is obvious.
[1:50:47 PM] Kuwoobie: As you have seen first hand
[1:51:05 PM] Kuwoobie: Accourding to Aceheartlove, you were kicked for continuing to break this rule
[1:51:26 PM] Kuwoobie: after which you came back and become incredibly disrespectful to her
[1:52:28 PM] Kuwoobie: The problem I see on her part is, however, she should not have been arguing any on the topic either, if that was the case
[1:52:36 PM] Kuwoobie: She should have simply said it was against our rules
[1:52:41 PM] Alexandra Groulx: Yes. I didnt actuallly read the handbook or know first hand the rules. I didnt even know there were rules in the handbook. I just assumed that because I was not being offensive and all I was doing was stating facts it would not be a problem. No I was not disrespectful to her. I didnt get hostile until she banned me and called me a ******.
[1:53:11 PM] Kuwoobie: I will have a talk with her about being more professional
[1:53:20 PM] Kuwoobie: No one should be calling anyone a "******"
[1:53:30 PM] Alexandra Groulx: Thank you.
[1:53:35 PM] Kuwoobie: She is actually a fairly new admin
[1:53:38 PM] Kuwoobie: and she is also my good friend
[1:53:42 PM] Kuwoobie: so she will listen
[1:53:58 PM] Kuwoobie: There is one more thing I want to talk about
[1:54:06 PM] Kuwoobie: [1:31 PM] Alexandra Groulx:

<<< okay well thank god, I CAN have you arreted but you are my friend and I won't. But ace banned me AND my boyfriend just as i was about to donate $10 and he was gonna donate $47
[1:54:18 PM] Kuwoobie: and
[1:54:25 PM] Kuwoobie: JT_BRADEN777 wrote:
Well have fun with no server. Youre all just a bunch of idiots with no life anyways. Ive got many other things to do besides play this worthless game all of the time. Ace is nothing but a loser and so are you. You spend how many hours a day on this game? You have absolutely no life and I would not bother with legal action being as how you are already punished with having absolutely nothing to live for. Ill let you play your measly little games while I enjoy fortune. Have fun with your ****** little lives.
Im the one who posted this.
Just shut your mouth you worthless nobody. Let Kuwoobie answer for himself. Your a nobody in real life and your a nobody in this game. I on the other hand am a millionaire in real life.
[1:54:48 PM] Kuwoobie: I realize you were upset
[1:54:54 PM] Kuwoobie: but this is ridiculous
[1:55:30 PM] Alexandra Groulx: Yes, I was just very upset with the treatment I receieved. I apologize nevertheless.
[1:56:26 PM] Kuwoobie: I just want to make it clear
[1:56:37 PM] Kuwoobie: Being a donor or a potential donor does not make anyone exempt from the rules
[1:56:45 PM] Kuwoobie: and we actually have banned many people who have donated
[1:57:06 PM] Alexandra Groulx: Alexandra undesrtands.
[1:57:28 PM] Kuwoobie: We are not trying to rip people off, but when they betray our trust or go out of their way to harm other players especially
[1:57:36 PM] Kuwoobie: we cannot simply look away because they donated
[1:57:50 PM] Alexandra Groulx: Okay.
[1:57:56 PM] Kuwoobie: In this case
[1:58:08 PM] Kuwoobie: it seems to me like people were upset and said a bunch of things out of anger
[1:58:13 PM] Kuwoobie: and that is forgivable
[1:58:33 PM] Kuwoobie: I will speak to Aceheartlove as well as all of our admins about being more professional
[1:59:08 PM] Kuwoobie: I'll admit that sometimes I act beligerantely to players as well sometimes, usually if I am about to ban them and don't want them to come back
[1:59:26 PM] Kuwoobie: It's part of being human I guess
[1:59:50 PM] Kuwoobie: Now all I have to ask is, do you want to come back?
[2:00:06 PM] Alexandra Groulx: yes that would be greayt
[2:00:09 PM] Kuwoobie: alright then
[2:00:41 PM] Alexandra Groulx: its alexandra again
[2:00:43 PM] Kuwoobie: I'll unban both of you. It is going to make Aceheart and the other admins uncomfortable probably, but I will talk to them about our conversation just now
[2:01:14 PM] Alexandra Groulx: thanks :D
[2:01:50 PM] Alexandra Groulx: my bad on the rule part, as soon as jake joined I was too excited to start playing so he didnt read the rules :P
[2:03:39 PM] Alexandra Groulx: Thank you very much and happy holidays :)
[2:06:30 PM] Kuwoobie: You are unbanned on Kanto. Let me know if it still shows as blocked because I might need to unban your IP
[2:07:18 PM] Alexandra Groulx: yup still banned
[2:07:29 PM] Kuwoobie: kk one sec
[2:08:26 PM] Kuwoobie: should be clear now
[2:09:11 PM] Alexandra Groulx: still banned? D:
[2:09:17 PM] Kuwoobie: hmm
[2:09:22 PM] Kuwoobie: I might need to restart the server
[2:09:25 PM] Kuwoobie: let me try doing it manually
[2:09:36 PM] Alexandra Groulx: oh, haha thanks :3
[2:12:06 PM] Kuwoobie: k try now. I entered the IP manually to be unbanned
[2:12:11 PM] Kuwoobie: it should go into effect immediately
[2:12:14 PM] Kuwoobie: if not I'll restart the servers
[2:13:06 PM] Alexandra Groulx: It worked :) ! Thank you for everything!
[2:14:03 PM] Kuwoobie: I have spoken to Aceheart and the other admins in our Skype group and shared this conversation with them so they understand
[2:14:41 PM] Kuwoobie: all I ask is you please not say anything to upset them or rub it in their face that you were unbanned or anything like that
[2:14:58 PM] Alexandra Groulx: Oh no i'm not that type of person
[2:15:01 PM] Kuwoobie: ok good
[2:15:28 PM] Alexandra Groulx: In fact, ask Ace for a truce :)
[2:15:34 PM] Kuwoobie: It's best not to
[2:15:43 PM] Kuwoobie: It's best if we never speak of this again
[2:15:54 PM] Alexandra Groulx: Oh, agreed :)

Now they are going to sue you for posting that here.

They COULD have you arrested. But they like you. So they won't.

There isn't much more I can do but ban them. They were already banned. The only reason I talked to them at all was because Alex was a long time player and has never had any problems before, and has actually been quite nice to everyone up until then. Her boyfriend, on the other hand, I had never even heard of prior to this event. If he continues to act like an entitled @#%^wit, he'll simply be re-banned. I'm really hoping Alex will dump him soon, lest she get herself caught in another one of his spoiled teenager temper tantrums.

Edit:

Who is Gourdraiden? What's the story behind that one?

Edited, Dec 30th 2013 6:09am by Kuwoobie

Yeah, but you didn't leave them banned for ever and ever, sending them occasional taunting messages about still being banned just to crush their souls that much more. Not that I do that. Usually.

And you can always do more. Two words: "itching powder!"

As far as who Gourdraiden is, that's my pet name for godraiden, aka feiwong aka aka Mohammad Khalil, aka "the guy that actually gave us his cell phone number because he thought he could just talk things out" aka the worst troll in all of history ever had ever to plague the internet. He has, in order of crime: 1. Spammed gay **** to minors (along with about 500 other users) 2. spammed the forums with links to a virus. 3. spammed the forums with links to a keylogger he customized to send information to himself (we reported that one, apperently nothign ever happened), 4. made threats,5. made death threats, 6. claimed to BE the FBI. 7. After that didn't work, claimed he was reporting us to the FBI for crimes against humanity, 8. Tried to get his lawyer internship friends to sue us (I think I got them fired, I kind of feel bad about that one honestly) 9. reported various anti feiwong sites as hate groups to try and get their hosting shut off (managed to get one turned off for 1 day somehow) and 10. allegedly raped a goat.

I think he goes and does name searches so I started calling him gourdraiden to hopefully annoy him. Anyways, ******* insane doesn't even begin to describe the guy. A starter primer is here: http://wyred.nu/lolfeiwong/ and you can do searches for feiwong, lolfeiwong or godraiden if you want to see more of the insanity. Fair warning it will likely damage brain cells.

I read this as Card Against Humanity. Y'all need to play this for hours and hours if you have not yet.

That's because he was a ************* not a *************

The WoW forums never quite had the same insanity as the FFXI(V) forums.

We got topless pics, I can live with that.

Wait. When did we get topless pics?

Why do I miss all the good drama days?

Years ago? Does that help?

SpoilerAnyway, it was a bit of an inside joke, but one which no one remembers anymore it seems, isyris' pics with her new baby if that rings a bell.

Edited, Dec 30th 2013 1:26pm by someproteinguy

YESSS that is the one

I used to be able to find it with a simple google search but the results have been messed up ever since you changed Ugly's title. Now it just lists the most recent threads he's posted in.

Time to book mark it.

PM's that I will never delete. Ever.