Peeved off MinersFollow

Hello everyone,

The miners of the Grotto have a serious problem. For many months we have all mined in this place never having a problem with stealing each other mining points. Everyone is always courteous to each other and even helpful if someone needs an extra fire crystal.

BUT, as of last night the "Hero Clan", they all have teh same neam really, herothief, heroelder, herolionking, etc., have invaded us and are stealing our mining points. We all tried talking to them but they say "so what". Mintie and I told them we are going to report them to the server forum boards, they say "so what".

This is really bad, and very frustrating, we arent having as much fun as we used to. They steal mobs from under people trying to lvl, they auto-follow the miners to steal mining points. What are we to do.

Thanx all for listening to us,
The miners of yugotto grotto

Yes, we have all tried to talk to this person and truly is seems that all the chars have the same "mun". They move in a sort of robotic way throughout the mines also, camping the nm, stealing the key dropping orcs, and hitting mining points they find on their own, which is rare, only once then moving on.

I also find it interesting that they seem to be all the same lvl, rank 1, and one runs back to town to sell the loot, while a new one returns shortly thereafter.

I know that proving they are bots is hard, and the gm's could care less about them stealing, but in the user agreement it states gm's watch out for activities that is generelly regarded as socially unacceptable. This is socially unnaccpetable and the gm's are not following playonline user rules, regulations, and guidelines.
I personally don't knwo what to do. But I sure hope for suggestions.

What lvl are these guys?

HHmmm perhaps all the people out there buying gil online has funded a few companys a way for them to make the gil themselfs rather than buying it off of other players. I have to check into this group now Im pretty curious. If they are in the lvl 20's I can follow anywhere they go. This could be interesting indeed.

There are 3 groups on this server that are gil sellers I know of so far

Cn gang
I personaly think these guys are botters, after camping a NM in Castle Oz. I ran across them, to see WTF was up with them after someone on my LS told me about them, later on I noticed they were around 45, so Yag. Oracles and such did aggro them, what I found funny was however NO ONE fought untill one of them did, even the WHM took a few hits before any action was taken.

I later read on www.ffxionline.com about a bot that you can get that works similar to what they did, after one person attacks, ther rest do

Cool gang
There are quite a few of these guys around, I'm not sure who exactly is all in this group, since about 7-8 show up on /sea all

Hero gang
More gil sellers, without a doubt

There are 4 more I've seen that go by these names

Multiscan
Haierbaby
Samsang
Meau

If you're around 58ish and they're in your PT, disband, they suck, the RDM (Meau) didn't use convert when MP was low in a fight, the THF (Samsang) is the worst puller I've seen, pulled with provoke, and SA/TA's off the Monk (Multiscan) I tried once to let the MNK voke first, Samsang wasn't even CLOSE to behind me, more off to my characters left side

Haierbaby at that time was the only one besides me and the WHM that had our SJs higher than 20, everyone else's was around 12-18ish, I later read somewhere else about them, since someone thinks they're also in the gil selling area since Multi booted him after he asked him to help camp a NM

I don't think they're bots. I remember hearing a lot about them and being Chinese players. I saw them in Garlaige Citadel while I was partying. They came and camped near us. They were too low level to be in that bottom part.

They were around level 45-46 trying to kill beetles and bats. They called for help a good bit. When we helped them, they would thank us in very broken english. There was even one time, they got too close to us and we asked them to move. They did, and apologized.

So no, I don't think they're bots.

Okay Update:

My Husband spoke with a GM just a few minutes ago. He explained the situations that have been occuring. During the GM call one of my mining buddies /telled me that one of teh heros was on auto follow and wouldnt stop poking her in south sandy. I told my Husband, who told the GM, I guess the gm checked on my friends situationa and immedietly the hero vanished. (Prison?)

Well anyways, the end result, the gm seemed pretty annoyed, and said that this particualr clan will be closely watched for botting, and selling gil online.

I hope something happens and the gm wasn't fibbing.

Let's all hope.

The Cool group might be another that isn't botters but instead a group of chinese players. Awhile back I think I was chatting with a Cool-something and found out she was from China. Then again, this was awhile back so I might be incorrectly remembering her name as containing Cool.

Too bad Y. Grotto is getting bad. I used to love mining there (I haven't for awhile so I haven't experienced this yet). :/


Edited, Tue Aug 17 17:18:41 2004 by Nezha

I saw the Hero gang when I was searching for Horlais Peak yesterday. I think it was Mintie thats was being attacked by an Orc train (which afterwards I felt silly cuz she had what looked like a Dark Staff on o.o). Herolionking stepped in to help out, but afterwards me n Mintie bowed to eachother, while the Hero ran off. I also noticed ALOT of the Hero names around, like Herocrystal. It sucks to hear that bots can actually be coordinated enough to run around mining. Provoke bots seemd a big thing to me, so this is like WOAH ... goodluck to you honest miners ^.^

The CN players are chineses. (.cn is china) It's way for themselves to recognize other chineses and be able to communicate in that language. I partied with some of them in the Dunes.

Coolbirds is my least favorite. I partied with her in the dunes... Dunno what she was, she had /anon on, but I'm pretty sure she was subbing DRK, since she has a high level one, but she was in Valkurm partying with us.

She invited me, I accepted. Noticed that I was a level 14 Samurai I believe... there was a level 10 White Mage in the party. He left. She invited a level 15 Monk, which was too high for a level 12 player in our party. Getting fed up, 3 people including me left.

I wander, wait for invites, get some crap from some know-it-all saying I shouldn't use a SAM/RNG combo... she invites me again, with nary a word prior to said invitation. I decline, explain to her that I'd prefer some sort of communication before being invited.

More waiting. She invites me again. Sighing, I reluctantly accept, and notice the party has a decent level span and job selection. Okay, whatever. We head to the beach to murder the crab population. Goblin aggroes us, so we have to run to Selbina. Well, a high level player took the Goblin, so we're sitting there healing... what does Coolbirds do? Cast Stone on a Damselfly. CTRL-ESC, and a few seconds later I'm playing UT2004. Forget her.


Edit - Oh, I've seen the Hero clan around Yughott. I like to farm the Orcs there (being considerate of the key-hunters, sometimes I'll join them and help them find their key so I can keep killing the Orcs ^^)... I noticed three Hero folk running around aimlessly, going in circles, until one of them would stop and go mine. Weird. I guess they're gilsellers?

Edited, Wed Aug 18 11:27:57 2004 by Anfini