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I just was thinking about how Members of my old LS built their own LS out of my members, and it got me to thinking about LS' that I hated. I don't personally hate many LS' on this server, but I certainly hate the LS that was created on another server from my old members. Oh, and also you can name the Linkshells that you love.
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Uhh... Yeah, I don't really hate any particular LS, in fact most of the LSs I've been in have had really kewl people in them, I can't think of anyone who has ticked me off enough to make me hate the LS.
Uhh... Yeah, I don't really hate any particular LS, in fact most of the LSs I've been in have had really kewl people in them, I can't think of anyone who has ticked me off enough to make me hate the LS.
LiquidUrine has my vote. I got a pearl from someone because I was looking for an LS. At that moment, I was a lvl 20 BLM (no sub), and I was about to warp to Buburimu to finish my subjob quest (I had all the items from the Buburimu side).
I was just barely in the LS for not even 10 minutes, when they started telling me what a stupid n00b I am and that I am worthless.
They began to tell the sackholder to get rid of me because the LS has no time for n00bs.
What started it all off was that I had asked where the position of the old woman was that gives the subjob quest in Mhaura. They began yelling at me that I am doing it all wrong, I am stupid for getting to 20 without a sub, I can only do it in Selbina, etc.
The guy who gave me the pearl apologized for their behavior, but I still dropped the pearl.
I was just barely in the LS for not even 10 minutes, when they started telling me what a stupid n00b I am and that I am worthless.
They began to tell the sackholder to get rid of me because the LS has no time for n00bs.
What started it all off was that I had asked where the position of the old woman was that gives the subjob quest in Mhaura. They began yelling at me that I am doing it all wrong, I am stupid for getting to 20 without a sub, I can only do it in Selbina, etc.
The guy who gave me the pearl apologized for their behavior, but I still dropped the pearl.
With all due respect to the original poster, I think something like this is a rather bad idea. It's one thing to have a list of the bad players on our server, but linkshells that you have a problem with? If there is a linkshell people dislike for one user doing something or other, than a post about it here will attach a stigma to that Linkshell. Anyone with that pearl equipped will inevitably get harassed, whether to a larger or much smaller scale, and can even contribute to people leaving a linkshell if the reputation is awful from a single user.
Think about it. You don't want to be known as "Oh, (s)he's a member of that linkshell." No one else does, either.
Think about it. You don't want to be known as "Oh, (s)he's a member of that linkshell." No one else does, either.
Then you don't have to list it.
It's one thing that you meet individuals who are difficult to deal with, and it's another thing entirely when it's an entire linkshell (like the one i posted which i believe no longer exists).
This is no different than a bad players list. In both cases people will get marked. If we have a bad players list people will see that person and automatically think "oh he is the one they talk about on the forums".
People generally are not mindless sheep that will automatically chunk their pearls because someone said "so and so linkshell sucks". We deserve a little more credit than that... geez
It's one thing that you meet individuals who are difficult to deal with, and it's another thing entirely when it's an entire linkshell (like the one i posted which i believe no longer exists).
This is no different than a bad players list. In both cases people will get marked. If we have a bad players list people will see that person and automatically think "oh he is the one they talk about on the forums".
People generally are not mindless sheep that will automatically chunk their pearls because someone said "so and so linkshell sucks". We deserve a little more credit than that... geez
The trouble, though, is the original post gives a lot of leeway for that sort of thing, which is what I'm wary of. You're right; people aren't sheep (for the most part). There's a difference between a bad linkshell and a linkshell the poster just doesn't like, something which may or may not be based on a personal vendetta against perhaps a single person or a couple of people. Using the original post as an example:
Say the linkshell, formed out of members from the OP's linkshell, is given a bad reputation due to this post. Someone else joins the linkshell, unknowing of their "reputation" or this post. Someone in the OP's current linkshell sees that pearl, and says "Hey, I remember that post, they're a bunch of backstabbers." Well, someone who was absolutely not a part of what happened suddenly got dragged into it, and someone formed an opinion of them without them having done a thing.
It's a bit of a stretch, but it's entirely possible and something I would be dreadfully cautious about. If the post persists, then so be it, but just be careful about inadvertantly including people in scenarios or reputations that they don't deserve.
Say the linkshell, formed out of members from the OP's linkshell, is given a bad reputation due to this post. Someone else joins the linkshell, unknowing of their "reputation" or this post. Someone in the OP's current linkshell sees that pearl, and says "Hey, I remember that post, they're a bunch of backstabbers." Well, someone who was absolutely not a part of what happened suddenly got dragged into it, and someone formed an opinion of them without them having done a thing.
It's a bit of a stretch, but it's entirely possible and something I would be dreadfully cautious about. If the post persists, then so be it, but just be careful about inadvertantly including people in scenarios or reputations that they don't deserve.
You are crazy if you complain about a LS that you hate. If it isn't fun or infomative, it will die its own death. I have been given some weak LS's and I just drop them, because the space in my storage is more important.
The best thing about a good LS is that you can make some awesome friends, rate up to the positive people.
The best thing about a good LS is that you can make some awesome friends, rate up to the positive people.
just like there is a difference between a very rude player and someone who doesn't know how to play. is it fair to brand someone as an idiot or a difficult person to play with because no one ever helped him make some macros? how about someone who decided to quit being a tank and become a healer? he is still learning and things may happen, is it fair to say everyone should stay away from him because the poor guy was honestly trying to learn? of course not. people will make mistakes in judgement. it is my hope that everyone gives everyone the benefit of the doubt. i have seen some of the people on the bad list and i found that they were decent people who were in a bad situation that got worse. rarely have i seen someone listed in the bad list as being totally blacklisted by everyone just because someone said he was bad.
hopefully we all have the maturity to not blacklist someone just because i or you said so. the bad list be it for linkshells or players, for me, is a means to let others know to be wary of certain people and groups and to let those who happen to make their way to the bad list to give their side of the story.
my gripe was legitimate. at the time there were 15 people in the LS, and out of those 15, 14 people were rude, insulting, and vulgar. i ran into some people who were in that LS and had they had told me they quit for the same reason.
i also know people who quit an LS and file all kinds of complaints just because they didn't get a pearlsack (happened a few times in my LS). things happen, but you know i think this thread does have a lot of positive potential to clear up some messes too. if someone sees his LS unjustly mentioned in his thread (like liquidurine), this is his chance to say "wait, this isn't what happened". so worst case scenario is everyone abandons the LS (unlikely). best case scenario is things get worked out.
i can understand your claim, and it is perfectly legitimate. i totally understand your view. i tend to have a little more faith in my fellow man to not jump to conclusions and say someone is bad because i said so. i am sure all of you who read this thread will have good judgement and understand the difference between someone hating a player/LS for childish reasons and actually having a legitimate complaint. there are 3 sides to every story: my side, his side, and the truth.
edit: i just wanted to add that IMO, the whitelist is a little better because it lets us know who actually goes out of his way to help his fellow player. ^^
Edited, Thu Dec 2 16:06:54 2004 by Abzalom
hopefully we all have the maturity to not blacklist someone just because i or you said so. the bad list be it for linkshells or players, for me, is a means to let others know to be wary of certain people and groups and to let those who happen to make their way to the bad list to give their side of the story.
my gripe was legitimate. at the time there were 15 people in the LS, and out of those 15, 14 people were rude, insulting, and vulgar. i ran into some people who were in that LS and had they had told me they quit for the same reason.
i also know people who quit an LS and file all kinds of complaints just because they didn't get a pearlsack (happened a few times in my LS). things happen, but you know i think this thread does have a lot of positive potential to clear up some messes too. if someone sees his LS unjustly mentioned in his thread (like liquidurine), this is his chance to say "wait, this isn't what happened". so worst case scenario is everyone abandons the LS (unlikely). best case scenario is things get worked out.
i can understand your claim, and it is perfectly legitimate. i totally understand your view. i tend to have a little more faith in my fellow man to not jump to conclusions and say someone is bad because i said so. i am sure all of you who read this thread will have good judgement and understand the difference between someone hating a player/LS for childish reasons and actually having a legitimate complaint. there are 3 sides to every story: my side, his side, and the truth.
edit: i just wanted to add that IMO, the whitelist is a little better because it lets us know who actually goes out of his way to help his fellow player. ^^
Edited, Thu Dec 2 16:06:54 2004 by Abzalom
I would have to say ChocoboLTD.... >_< crap that's my own LS... aaaw **** now I've done it, must break linkshell before all goes bad. j/k
Abz: They were truly stupid to say that to you, I would be honoured to have you in ChocoboLTD, though it probably wouldn't be the best for you as it's mostly aussies, so you'd be on only with a handful of NA's ; ; oh well. See you at the next EF hopefully.
As for LS's I hate, basically every pure yellow LS out there. Reason being that I started our LS (with a bunch of RL friends) abit over a year ago. We chose Yellow since the name ChocoboLTD and well you guessed it the colour of Chocobo's, plus there was next to no yellow LS' out there. At the time we were really iffy about the colour, but it grew on us and we began to really like the colour compared to alot of the other colours
And then came the other Yellow LS's, more and more as I travelled around Vana'diel I noticed player after player with a Yellow Link Pearl above their head. Instantly (and to this day) I think it's one of mine, but it turns out to be another LS. I don't /check to see what it is because that's just rude, but this is a big.. DAMN YOU ALL going out to Yellow LS' ^^
Abz: They were truly stupid to say that to you, I would be honoured to have you in ChocoboLTD, though it probably wouldn't be the best for you as it's mostly aussies, so you'd be on only with a handful of NA's ; ; oh well. See you at the next EF hopefully.
As for LS's I hate, basically every pure yellow LS out there. Reason being that I started our LS (with a bunch of RL friends) abit over a year ago. We chose Yellow since the name ChocoboLTD and well you guessed it the colour of Chocobo's, plus there was next to no yellow LS' out there. At the time we were really iffy about the colour, but it grew on us and we began to really like the colour compared to alot of the other colours
And then came the other Yellow LS's, more and more as I travelled around Vana'diel I noticed player after player with a Yellow Link Pearl above their head. Instantly (and to this day) I think it's one of mine, but it turns out to be another LS. I don't /check to see what it is because that's just rude, but this is a big.. DAMN YOU ALL going out to Yellow LS' ^^
I also mention talking about the Linkshells that you hate, there are whole linkshells that ppl hate for one reason or another. Mostly ppl hate a LS because of their Elitist attitude.
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Abz: They were truly stupid to say that to you, I would be honoured to have you in ChocoboLTD, though it probably wouldn't be the best for you as it's mostly aussies, so you'd be on only with a handful of NA's ; ; oh well. See you at the next EF hopefully.
Hey I used to work with a lot of Aussies, so I dont mind. :o) Look for my other character Hairybeanbag (Bastokian). It's a new character but I am going to make him a Paladin main. ^.^
Anyway send me a /tell, and I will be happy to join up
ChocoboLTD is a LS full of Aussies? o_O
... Well, I'm a Kiwi, so I'm just accross the ditch from you guys, and well... Man, do you guys suck at Rugby right now! Hahaha!! Whups, that's sure to get me a nice healthy rate-down, I'm sure. Well, just to make amends, I'll rate you up so you can't be TOO mad at me! After all, I'm just one little girl!! ... who is picking on an entire country... 9_9
... Well, I'm a Kiwi, so I'm just accross the ditch from you guys, and well... Man, do you guys suck at Rugby right now! Hahaha!! Whups, that's sure to get me a nice healthy rate-down, I'm sure. Well, just to make amends, I'll rate you up so you can't be TOO mad at me! After all, I'm just one little girl!! ... who is picking on an entire country... 9_9
I detest OmegaKnights. Especially that Quay, what an annoying midgetaru. (I kid, I kid)
WeAreNoOne. Damned HNM thiefs.
I don't know if this linkshell still exists but I despise
the: SandoriaArmada. I didn't like BastokEF either.
the: SandoriaArmada. I didn't like BastokEF either.
Psy: haha, it's all cool, you can go back to your sheep ^^ :P AU/NZ stuff is as old as the hills, in the end everyone is still friends. Yeah I would say that 9/10th are Aussie, we are slowly building ranks, 5-6+ on normal AEST time, more on weekends. Most are regulars.
If I wasn't a full-time CantaPerMe advocate, I'd consider joining up with you guys, I like the thought of hanging out with people not so far away from me. (Noone understands me, but my Vegemite sandwich!) Hee hee.
Sidenote: Yellow is my favourite colour. ^_^
Sidenote: Yellow is my favourite colour. ^_^
Aaah right, Dal told me he was in a party today with you and offered a pearl. Now I understand why ^^, no problem with that. Cya around maybe, if ever you need aussie chat drop a tell ^^
I created my own linkshell, and i dont like my linkshell anymore becuase the leaders a jerk :P
Sup Ennei, ur on my friendslist, didn't know u have arng, time for m eto ask some favors, lol.
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