^-^ TY good choice, i dont want the needle tho, i want more damage, but , gully is best, 25 dmg and dex too, im loving it, but thats a few lvls away need stuff for now, lvl 67. but i got harpe, when i get lvl 68 im gonna try it...the less expensive one lol, i will never pay 4 mil for a dagger unless i start buying gil :P not happening. thanx for ur advice and i will be using gully , another Excellent THF is Mexel, and hes told me harpe works wonders, he just got it ^-^