Begging [Rant]Follow

While I try to keep my complaints to myself, this has to be one of my biggest pet peeves...

I'm standing at the AH, at any city. Someone that I have never met walks up to me, /checks me, and then asks me to give them gil. When did this start? To me, this is the single rudest act in this game, and I generally blist the person immediately.

I'm not a cold person that doesn't ever empathize with the neediness of others, but I've also never ever begged a complete stranger to GIVE me something for nothing. If a person is a friend of mine, what's mine is theirs and I have no qualms about lending or even giving to them whatever I can.

Begging is the lowest of the low, and those that do this truly have no dignity, or maybe they are simply lazy.

Sorry, I have been crafting a lot lately and this has happened more times than I care to recount. I work hard to earn what I have, why can't they eh?

Paaaaaax... help me on BLM AF3 (or donate large sums of unmarked Gil into my Inbox!)

Seriously though, begging has been around for awhile. It really ins't very new.

Odder yet is when a person randomly /tells you to try to hock something (like, Scorpion Claws in my case) or /tells you to purchase a farmable object (Gausebit Grass, also in my case). Those two just kinda make me scratch my head; the former because they sell quickly on the AH, and the latter because you can farm them at an early level :T

I completly sympothize with you pax. This has happened to me many times before. I use to just give in and give them gil but now i regret doing that. There was only one time i didnt cause i got a really good friend out of it. She's very helpful so i have no regrets but the rest i do. People need to go make money that 3k or whatever they want can easily be made in the time it takes them to beg.

While im here i got a pet peve about somthing to. Mentors. Im a mentor and it seems like ever since i become one im nothing more then an errand boy. People see that M and assume they can ask for help for anything. I get people i dont know all the time asking for money asking to borrow my gear and asking me to constantly check the ah for them. Now i dont mind checking the ah a few times people but c'mon im not your errand boy. Anyway that's my 2 cents. Im sure you get it more then me pax since you higher lv. Sorry to hear it happens so much.

GIVE ME MONEY!!!!!

j/k ^^

I totally agree with you. I usually spend alot of time in a. the dunes, b. San d'Oria, or c. Qufim, either farming, crafting or helping people. While there I have so many people /check me and ask me for money that it becomes hard to stomach at times. Also though, I get the PL me for free... you aren't doing your job if you don't come out of your way to raise me... your a high lvl, you are supposed to give me money... and, my personal favorite, "I am a 25 thf. Can you please come kill VE for me to get MY drop?"

MPK them all! no but seriously ive had troble with beggers for somewhile. once in windurst i was at ah and someone runs up doesnt say a thing to me but offers trade. i give a ? simply cuz i thought he wanted a tele or something, then i see 3k pls on my log. i reply 3k for what, he says well your a rich high level help a poor noob out. i cancel trade rip him a new one and see him in xp pt in the dunes. i grab every gob on the map and find him bring them to him and warp.you may say ******* or thats mean but ehh like i care. but Pax dont worry we all get beggers and deal with them in our own way (dont go by my example) but it comes with the game ppl are always gonna beg.
oh yea pax BLM AF3 be there =P for me though.

omg zeny plz


wait,... wrong game, sorry.



Um, Pax, just as a side note, everyone in my (not mine, but you know what I mean) LS willl happily help you for that Bard AF if you just ask.

I had a similar experiacnce Tuesday. I was comming back from farming Giddues when I get a /tell from a level 30...

yes you read right a level 30 blm/whm.

His request? Enough gil to buy his next set of spells.

wtf?

Ok, yeah I was standing there in my nice shiny Dragoon AF, with my Grand Knight's Lance, Merman's Gorget, Assault Earring, Life Belt, Verner Ring, and jager mantel. How does that translate into my being the First National Bank of Vana'diel?

now that you mention it he was taru!

Edited, Wed Mar 9 23:43:52 2005 by Ihzuna

"Build a man a fire, keep him warm for the night. Set a man on fire, keep him warm the rest of his life."

I used to tell beggars how they could make their own gil, but now I just ignore them. I never begged for gil. I somehow managed, and so can anyone else.

I don't mind people asking for help, but it seems like no one can take a polite "Sorry, I'm busy now" for an answer. I don't know why complete strangers think I logged on just to help them get their AF, but I usually have plans when I log on.

I also think AF, genkei, etc are something that you should do (at least the first time) with a team of the level the AF is for. I knew no one but my wife when we started playing, and I managed to make friends and join a massive alliance for AF3 slaughter and genkei runs. Having a 70+ player solo it for you doesn't seem like fun for me. If it's fine with you, go ahead and ask, but I'm not doing it.

I don't see why anyone should get a free pass when we had to put in our time and effort and do these things at the level you're supposed to do them. Some people have this idea that higher-levels are obligated to help them. I've even had one tell me that I had help so I should help now that I can. Yeah, I did have help. From my level 50-60 friends who I in turn helped with their AF.

Why people want to play this game devoid of any challenge is beyond me, but to each his own. Just don't expect me to play your game for you.

{Hmmm.} I remember a few days ago there was a taru in Sandy that did a /check, then sent me a tell saying 'You have nice gear, can I have 3k?', then proceeded with /em Dances for gil.

Could it be the same taru?

Well, I for one have only been begged for gil on rare occassions... And those are the only ones where I've worn my AF in towns. Why? Cause when people see good gear, free or not, they see dollar signs as well. Also, walking around as a lv60+ w/o /anon on doesn't help either.

*Note: Free AF? Not anymore! For the low low price of your pride and self-repsect, you can hire a lv75 goon to do the dirty work for you!

Of course, the opposing argument is if you have the gil, why not flaunt it? I myself am against that, and not just because I'm flat broke all the time. I'm morally agaisn't it, because it really is just showing off. Jesus was the son of God, yet walked around in sandals and robes. Also, showing off like that is a symptom of low self-esteem, or trying to compensate for something. Now, you don't want to be the guy, do you? I mean, I have a lilac corsage, not earned but a gift from a friend, but even then after wearing it for a day, I started wondering who the crap I was trying to impress? I now keep in in my safe with the rest of my treasures.

Well, I guess my point is, flaunt you have money, and you'll be ASKED for money. Not that anyone is going to unequip everything just to be humble, hell, I'm way to lazy to do that, but that's just what I think. Also running around lv60+ w/o /anon on with NO intention of getting an xp party or what have you will also inevitably get you bugged.

Edited, Sat Mar 12 23:37:36 2005 by ShyFox

I am NOT defending those beggars. I'm merely stating most people who are begged make themselves look like suseptable targets FOR begging. I worked my *** off to get where I am, and they should do the same.

Salutations All ^^:

/comfort Pax--

I feel your pain on this issue. From the days of "C0m3 0n, you're hilvl! gev m3 ur Stone of Jord4ns!" in Diablo 2, to the age old "I need deer meat ; ;" in UO, one of the oldest professions in MMORPGS shines or glowers through all of our lives at one point or another.

Hmmmmm, well since knowledge is power, perhaps sharing some of my information, collected over my assorted months of playing, will shed some light on the abilities and exploits for this hidden 16th Job of FFXI:

Job: Beggar
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Highest Stat: VIT
Lowest Stat: CHR
Spells/Equipment: You're a BEGGAR! You're need gil for that stuff! Though Beggars have no spells or gear, that won't stop them from NEEDING(Imperatively So) any and all particular spells or gear in the game, so WATCH OUT!

Job Abilities/Traits:


1). Shamelessness [Or Shame Resistance] (lvl-15):
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Able to resist all forms of reason and understanding when dealing others in obtaining one's own individualistic and petty goal for up to 1 minute and then some.


2). Arrogance Circle (lvl 05):
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Grants the player the ability to intimidate others for up to 5 seconds by shouting "_____ player is a stingy %&#*&&$#&* don't ever help him/her for anything, EVER!!!," until everyone in the immediate area decides to /blist add said player. But be careful, unlike most circles, this apparently has a rather short recast time.


3). Obliviousness (lvl 30.):
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Grants the player the ability to be overwhelming short sighted and singleminded, unable to see with compassion or understanding the ease with which one can obtain a monetary living in a fantasy world through a plethora of different avenues, none of which would include begging. Furthermore, this heightened state of imperviousness to reason and logic allows the player to spend MORE time bothering others than to achieve a paultry amount of gil that than would have been necessitated in the act of farming, crafting, or otherwise earning said money on one's own.


4). Two Hour Ability-- Disturbing the Peace:
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Ironically enough, this 2hr ability is the most beneficial and generous ability a BUM/??? can bestow unto others. Through incessant ranting and raving for minimalistic or outrageous requests, either a GM call, sheer intolerance for others, or a desire to quit the game altogether, the beggar is incapacitated from the game for an indefinite amount of time.


5). Level 4 Ability- Telemarketer/Solicitation:
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With the utilization of this ability, a beggar can spam upwards of 5-10 people at once with the same AOLese encrusted phrase (usually c4n u g1v m3 g1l [plz- optional]?), without breaking a sweat. Favorable reply received or not, this ability can easily be reapplied within seconds to another set of people, until the beggar's task has been ameliorated.



6). Level 35 Ability- Guilt Trip (Note-- Must have ONLY Rank 3 or below for this ability to Work:
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Regardless of the beggar's actual possession of a "w1f3 & k3dz," an ever increasingly turmoil-filled RL, or just short of gil for the chocobo/airship (even though Rank 3 or below for Airship), this ability allows the player to pound away at those small remaining shreds of dignity and decency until the monetary rewards are oozed out of the beggar's targets.


7). Level 50 Ability- Symbiotic Relationship/Leeching:
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With the usage of the prior abilities and traits above, any successful Beggar that has reached this lvl will, rather than continually pummel fresh targets on a 25/75 success ratio, will instead have the option of forming a symbiotic "gimme gimme gimme gimme yes please" relationship with special high lvl players.

I'd mention the usage of the Friends list in facilitating this ability's implementation in-game, but let's face it-- using the flist would require KNOWLEDGE of the game, and independant thinking, and Beggars can't waste time with that.

Instead, writing down or partially memorizing someone's name, and berating those hi-lvl players with names longer than 6 characters, serves as a satisfactory corollary to this ability, or even better, demanding the players in question befriend the beggar instead (so all they have to do is click ok).

Finally, should the beggar actually assist the hi-lvl player in, say, checking the AH or any other myriad of miniscule endeavors, this immediately ignites a hidden aspect of the Symbiotic Relationship--


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8)Imbalanced Whine Seal (lvl 60 Upgrade):
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Allows the beggar to sprout the following phrase--
"Man I help u out whenever you need someone to check something, and I wait and act patiently for help on things, and that one time I DIED for you! (Note, usually entails getting aggro and forming a train when said Beggar is told to stay put), but no, you're too busy becoming uber to ever help me on my simple things, thanks for being too selfish, you *******! (note the singular, grammatically flawed, run-on sentence)."


***People who come across Beggars that have reached this high a lvl should be VERY cautious, for they can AMPLIFY all prior abilities with this Seal for up to 5 minutes, including negative character reports to your fellow friends and associates, messageboard posts, and private messages to boot.
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This concludes my analysis on the hidden Beggar Job. I hope that with said information, we can spot and avoid future confrontations and conflicts with this elusive group of people in-game. Thank you for your time, and as always, take care everyone ^^.


Mortetis