Server attacks and the real worldFollow

Hi there. I'm sure many of you have read this already, but in case you missed it, check this out.



It seems that China really doesnt want Japan to have that UN seat. Though I dont get how attacking FFXI is going to help that. /sigh

Hes just supposing its a chinese attack on FFXI servers.....

Maybe they are, maybe they are not...

Keep in mind the attacks also started near the period where deleted accounts can be reactivated, it could be banned players, it could be chinese, it could be someone playing EQ, someone playing WoW, or someone (or a few people) thah got fired by SE recently, it could be a kid doing it for the heck , etc...

I don't think you deserved a rate down for this.

Over here in Southeast Asia, almost every piece of news is about the unrest between Japan and China. There have also been alot of reports of cyberattacks on Japanese servers, even that of their national police agency sometime in the past week. The timing of that was also about the same time that the FFXI servers began being odd.

The reports also stated that there were Chinese websites explicitly encouraging their general public to perform such acts on Japanese servers, so it isn't surprising that someone would draw such conclusions.

Then again, though, it's all mostly speculation until SE can do a proper IP trace and get past the masked IPs used to execute the DDoS attacks that they experienced. And, even then, I highly doubt that we'd see any kind of specific details regarding it from SE themselves.

Thankfully, the servers seem to be stable this weekend. :)

With regards to the protest, I think it is somewhat telling that the American television News media has given it so little weight in their coverage.

In fact, prior to reading this article, I was unaware of the degree of violence associated with this event (other than "a protest where some windows were broken and some angry people assembled").


I am curious, though, about the remark in the second link,




While I admit already that the general populace (myself included) in the west is hearing significantly less about these events than those in the east (As Kysha said, it's all over the news there), I am wondering just where these 'current theories' are from, and by whom espoused?

This is certainly the first time I have heard of such a connection being suggested, so I am wondering who's current theories these are.


While I do not intend in any way to discount the very real possibility of a relation between these events, I am also generally cautious of drawing convenient connections between events when it seems to support a view that someone has an interest in promulgating.


My concern, I guess, is just that it is often too easy for some people to find any reason to hold hate and prejudice.


There are already too many people who have a categorical "hate teh chinese" attitude simply as a result of the gil selling issue.

Some people don't seem capable of (or inclined to) real critical thinking, and happily accept any additional support or validation for their prejudice.

Instead of recognizing that a bad apple doesn't spoil the barrel, some people are even eager to believe that a bad apple spoils all apples everywhere, and welcome any news which gives them more reason to believe so.


It is for this reason alone that I hope it eventually comes to be shown that the attacks on SE have nothing to do with China, simply because no race or nation deserves to be reviled based on the regrettable actions of a few prominent representatives.

Thank you for the additional links, and for taking the trouble to log back in.



Of course! And I never meant to suggest that you were bashing at all... I just needed to express my concern that it is too-common a problem where people (not necessarily you) will draw conclusions where they find it convenient to do so, in order to support what they have chosen already to believe.




Thank you for the generous offer, but at this time, I will wear no other subligar until I have obtained my white lacy panties from wherever they come from in the CoP areas that I do not yet have access to.

Slightly Off-Topic here:
Okay... Hearing about this just made me sick over my own culture and disgusted over the flaw of Japan's education system.
I have never been to school in Japan so I consider myself fortune enough to learn about this wartime tragedy in high school here.
I really didn't know Japanese textbooks rewrote history and it's just sickening that Japan won't apologize to Mainland China.
The Rape of Nanking(Nanjing) was one of the worst crimes Imperial Japan has committed. During WWII, more Chinese were killed then Jews. I learned South Korea got their damages payed for but what the f_ _ _ ... not Mainland China!?

Ironically, Taiwan doesn't care about this.
because Taiwan hates Mainland China...

And yes, I know I'm bashing my own cultural over this but the education system is f _ _ _ up for being ignorant.

It's one thing not to want to include such negativities into textbooks, even though it's blatantly masking the truth... However, denying the past does imply a lack of respect for the past, for people who have suffered under the regime. This, is what I believe the main gripe of the Chinese people really is.


In Singapore, where I'm from, there is a somewhat similar sentiment - although toned down very much more - about Japanese and their wartime practices of the past. At one point, we were under Japanese control, and alot of our people suffered brutally under their rule.

To this day, there remain people who refuse to buy any Japanese product, watch any Japanese programmes, or to have to do anything with the Japanese culture.

Of course, these are mostly people who have directly experienced the aftermath of the Japanese Occupation here (i.e. the older generation). Most of the younger generation, however, tend to behave in the exact opposite manner - and find themselves caught up with Japanese trends. I personally blame Kimura Takuya (but just a little, cos he's so darn cute).


I, on the other hand, believe - live and let live. Yes, I won't deny the past, but what's the point in dwelling anymore? But, I guess without this 'acknowledgement' of the past from Japan, the Chinese people will not take things lying down. It's such a pity to see things in this state.


(I apologize for rambling, I went off a tangent.. As I usually do when discussing matters of this nature.)


FFXI-wise: Yesterday, at about 5:30 (Japan Standard Time), searches began failing once again, and the Auction House was unusable. However, this was fixed in a matter of minutes and probably went by unnoticed to most. Perhaps they've brought the situation under control; which is good news. :)

Edited, Mon Apr 18 22:40:36 2005 by Kysha